Which one?

There is literally an avenue in which we can put him on a rocket and send him to Mars. I am all for it.

No, because he’s rich and influencial and keeps saying and doing shit that gets him front page in the news. That’s the way the world works unfortunately.

I think we’d all love that. I genuinely wish the asshole would take a trip to see the titanic.

Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.

Lmao

But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.

You don’t have to sit there and imagine things, because they are a publicly traded company…

It’s clear Musk’s politics have turned off a ton of potential customers worldwide. Tesla sales are falling off, while eg the Hyundai Ioniq is setting sales records in the US

“lots of people are buying Tesla’s”

“People are stepping away from fully electric vehicles.”

Which is it? Are Tesla’s strong or weak? Or are we somehow in a situation where EVs are weak and Tesla is strong?

Recruiters??!?!!?!

Why in the world would he possibly need to recruit people:

• To come live in abject fear of his every whim?
• To be expected to work 24 hours a day seven days a week?
• To not be able to have a family?

All the best talent will be lining up for some of that!!!

At this point having Tesla on your résumé means you couldn’t do better.

I was in the market for an EV shortly after he took over twitter. I ruled Tesla out because I do not want to be seen to support that douche in any way.

I’m one. When he moved Tesla engineers to work on Twitter and then went on an unhinged anti-Trans rant in the middle of an earnings call, I shopped around and traded in my model 3. I always assumed the major selling point of a Tesla was the software, but he keeps fucking with the people who make it.

Good idea. Then, this entitled, out-of-touch crybaby can sue the kid that took his juice in Kindergarten!

The cars are actually great, unfortunately

Why not both?

Maybe it doesn’t reach your criteria of a “certain level”, but there’s definitely stories of people winning significant amounts of money in the lottery and being broke years later because they are morons.

Depends on how you count it. Would you consider Steve Jobs to be rich? Seems to me that he managed to find a way to graduate from his status as a rich person with his stupidity.

Elon Musk ’s backing of Donald Trump is hurting Tesla ’s struggling EV business in Europe

Got some bad news for you…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

The rich people I’ve spoken with just don’t think they’re premium enough. It had nothing to do with politics. Most of their politics line up conservative anyway.

I’m afraid there isn’t that much meat to the story… Here I’ll give you the quotes relating to Rossmann, the rest is padding or embedding context if we want to be charitable.

“Elon Musk makes no secret of his support for Donald Trump. Trump has repeatedly described climate change as a hoax—this attitude is in stark contrast to Tesla’s mission to contribute to environmental protection through the production of electric cars,” Raoul Rossmann, Rossmann’s spokesman for the management, said in a statement.

Thirty-four of Rossmann’s 800 vehicles are Teslas, the company’s spokesperson told Fortune. The company plans to continue using those vehicles for “sustainability and resource conservation.”

Rossmann is the first major business to cite Musk’s political stance as a reason to halt future Tesla purchases. Other European companies have dropped orders from Tesla for different reasons.

The chain has a fleet of 800 vehicles, 34 of which are teslas. It seems as though they were going to replace the others with teslas over time, but due to Elon, they decided not to.

They also say they will maintain the teslas they do have, so as to be environmentally responsible.

They’re all his friends and family who Musk made very rich. They’re not gonna dump him.

72% of stakeholder vote favored giving him a stupid huge bonus, even stupid by rich billionaire standards. This was after TSLA took a hit and their sales were down and their unit prices were way down.

Tesla’s all in on Musk. Probably easier to accept as someone who never did like their particular cars and if anything is a bit annoyed that the traditional car companies felt compelled to copy the stupid parts of Tesla when making their EVs. I can see if someone liked Tesla how they could hope to evict Musk… Just not going to happen.

Maybe they should buy EVs to own the libs.

Ditto. I have 3 requirements above the current cars though:

• Better range
• more physical controls, everything that isn’t media or GPs needs physical buttons
• Elon must not profit

I got a Cadillac lyric instead and I love it

Same. Upper middle class and work for a large hyperacaler.

Tesla was the only one excluded from my recent EV search. Loving the Polestar 2 so far.

Same here, even with all the BS around Twitter and his political views… I WAS still considering a Tesla, but with the pro-Trump PAC and the deep fakes on Xitter it’s just another level of bullshit.

Hoping he gets forced out in the next year because I also don’t want to buy from a dealership, which doesn’t leave me a lot of options for an EV.

Same demographic, but sadly I already bought a model Y cause I wanted a 7 seater with a 5 star crash safety rating…

Needless to say the car isn’t good enough to compromise on my morals moving forward and the next car will probably be that VW Buzz. That thing looks so fun.

Same here, some friends of mine really got into car hacking with Teslas in particular and I was looking forward to sharing more hobbies with them. But at this point, I’d be embarrassed as hell to tell anyone I intentionally bought a Tesla, even a used one. And besides, if I really want the “sleek futuristic electric car by the dedicated electric car company”, Rivian exists (unless their CEO is somehow worse than Elon 😬😩)

That’s good, because people really do conflate the drivers with Elon’s fans, and also with Trump. I’m one of them. Fuck Elon, and fuck every Tesla driver.

You know that people can see your comment history, right?

Unfortunately US Billionaires have a lot of societal impact outside of the US. They don’t care about the arbitrary borders that bound us plebians, they have enough money that the borders functionally don’t exist.

I’d rather buy from a company ran buy someone who’s main job is running the company rather than being a social media MAGA influencer

It’s actually an example of having 1 leader at the top being a failure versus a democratic company that has workers vote on decisions and press releases etc

Same. My friends were planning to upgrade their Tesla and said, yeeeah no thanks" as Musk went on the deep end.

He doesn’t deserve to go to Mars before NASA

Why not buy from one of the other car brands?

I only like the part where you can just order from the website instead of going to a dealership where after one hour of talking and giving you a plethora of personal data that is guaranteed to inundate you with spam they tell you that due to high demand the car sells for 3k over MSRP

For the rest, while I really like the clean design, for me a car must have

• A stalk for the indicator lights
• Gear selector on physical buttons
• Climate on physical buttons
• If it comes with automatic windshield, a $1 wet sensor that works in any visibility instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
• If it comes with parking sensors, an array of $2 ultrasonic sensors that always work instead of trying to do it in software with computer vision
• Android auto/carplay. I want to be able to choose which app is used with navigation or use different ways to send messages besides sms. If the car operating system doesn’t allow me to send messages using signal or to use offline openstreetmaps, then for me it’s limited

I actively don’t want a fast EV. Maybe a quick one but I don’t want a fast one.

I like having more horsepower than minimum viable but who needs it to go from 0 to 90 in 2.1 femptoseconds? If it can keep up with or slightly outgun my Buick Century we’ll be okay.

Why would I want my EV to carry around the weight of the motors necessary to perform like a supercar?

Used market is full of teslas. Just don’t buy new. Few weeks ago you could get long range Tesla 2021 model (the one with heated battery) for £16k.

Germany’s satire newspaper Der Postillon already has an article about that. Amazing article, really.

www.der-postillon.com/…/cybertruck-klage.html

“The fact that billions of people still haven’t bought a Cybertruck and that Tesla’s stock market value is rapidly declining is a conspiracy of left-wing woke elites and a major threat to freedom of speech,” Musk continued, while handing hush money to a newly pregnant employee. “To everyone who doesn’t have a Cybertruck yet: Fuck You!”

Probably a case of Hanlon’s Razor:

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Yeah, same. I’m in the market for an EV over the next few years, and Tesla went from the top of the list to the bottom in remarkably short order.

Except we can’t each have our own. Inflation rewards shorter time preferences, so we have a “this quarter” economy we can’t opt out of.

I’ve heard the Kia EV6 is amazing, so you might want to consider checking it out

When I first started seeing Tesla cars on the road, I would think, “Must be nice. I can’t wait for the price of Teslas to go down.”

Now when I see them, I wonder if the driver regrets owning one.

Guy who owned the company I used to work for owned one when it was considered prestigious, and last year traded it in for a Genesis.

I’ve owned two Teslas and have previously raved about them to colleagues. My current Y is my last Tesla.

It’s weird that as a liberal, driving a Tesla is frowned upon.

Like, I get it, Musk is way more weird. But that there’s an electric car that I can’t buy for fear of being viewed as a conservative. That’s kinda weird.

Noooo people need EV’s that do 0-100 in 2 seconds that cost 80k

Citroen Ami is around 7k €