CIA deputy director’s son killed while fighting for Russia in Ukraine, investigation claims
(kyivindependent.com)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 13:40
https://lemmy.ca/post/42877331
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 25 Apr 13:40
https://lemmy.ca/post/42877331
cross-posted from: biglemmowski.win/post/6224801
Michael Gloss, 21, was the son of CIA Deputy Director for Digital Innovation Julianne Gallina Gloss, and Iraq war veteran Larry Gloss.
Before arriving in Russia on August 13, 2023, Gloss was travelling around Europe. On his Vkontakte page bio, he wrote: “I ran away from home (and) traveled the world. I hate fascism.”
On April 4, 2024, he was killed, likely during a Russian offensive near Bakhmut, however, his burial in the U.S. did not take place until December 2024, Important Stories reports.
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So he fought for Putin to invade Ukraine? That’s some top tier thinking there.
Have you seen the leaders of western imperialism lately? Say what you want about russian politicians, but they’re not doing this.
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There’s more than one way to fasc, I guess.
But they are. I mean they are not saluting but their opinions, their mindset, and ideology are quite similar .
I know you can’t resist to whatabout some more, but the US is an ally of Russia since last November.
Western Imperialism these days is the US, Israel, and Russia
The people in those images all support Russia though
You make me want to be a worse person.
I laughed so hard at this, god damn
bought into fighting wokeness, or nazis in ukraine probably.
That country turns fascists into sunflowers
Completely aside from what he was doing in Russia, he gives me the same vibe as Ché Cook from The OC. <img alt="" src="https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ocwikia/images/4/4e/Ch%C3%A9Cook.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220726013124">
Chris Pratt was in the OC?
ummm, something doesn’t compute
Some people consider Ukraine to be a neonazi stronghold. So fighting Ukraine would be fighting against fascist nazis. That logic is prevalent with conspiracy nuts/scammers like Alex Jones.
Also very prevalent with tankies.
Tankies don’t have their own beliefs. They’re just mouthpieces for the Russian and Chinese government.
The way these “theories” are thrown around these days with such an air of legitimacy is truly terrifying.
This absolute miracle of communication at our fingertips, and it’s 99% noise, dangerous noise, vying to worm its way into whatever cracks in the human psyche it can find. At the least harmful, it’s persuading ads. And on the other end, people are flying out to go join ISIS or Ruzzia because they got algorithmed into a Facebook group or absorbed enough TikTok radiation.
I miss when the internet “wasn’t real life.”
It seems they convinced him that NATO and Ukraine are Nazis. Typical stuff from the play book. Dude just went all in on it. Pretty sad, he had his whole life ahead of him.
Who’d guess the cia deputy director would raise such a gullible piece of shit
I remember times when I rebelled against my parents and did some pretty stupid shit, but kids today are on a different level.
Not sure about your upbringing, but I know I also didn’t really have the means to do anything truly stupid.
Where’d this kid get the resources to go globe-trotting to a freaking war-embattled fascist state? That’s what blows my mind. Someone responsible for him was complicit in his self destruction.
Technocrit just likes to stir shit. The reactions are what he wants.
From the end of the article
Is that really so far off though?
Yes
Yes, unless you ask a fucking idiot.
Yes
Yes you fucking cretin
Notice that the one US president who actually has been building concentration camps and operating the Gestapo, shares with you a strong dislike of NATO.
Yes
Not really. NATO had many ex top Nazis at the helm directly after world war 2. The line between Nazi Germany and NATO is very straight.
One of the most notable being top Nazi Adolf Heusinger en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
Where the other guy went wrong is thinking that anyone opposing NATO in this case Russia suddenly becomes objectively good.
I mean look nazis are bad but if we look at De-Ba’athification in Iraq things didn’t turn out so well.
As far as I can tell is Heusinger guy was a career military officer, for the Imperial German army, the Weimer rupublic, Nazi Germany, and Post war Germany. So sure we can he should have defected from the Nazis but he wasn’t exactly a brown shirt either.
Heusinger was a top ranking Nazi which served in the atrocities and genocide against the Soviet Union.
Calling this a “career military officer” is extreme Nazi glorification.
Well just because there are nazis dudes in an organization does not make it nazi itself. After the collapse of fascism, a lot of fascists kept or acquired important roles, there were nazi cunts in french administration, and i dont think it made the administration automatically nazi.
Since NATO was not iniated by nazis, nor by Germany, and has no nazi goals, i’m not sure if we can say that the line between Nazi Germany is very straight. It exists sure, but it’s probably not straight and certainly quite thin.
When the top of the organisation is a Nazi it sounds pretty Nazi to me.
Combined with the NATO genocides in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Palestine and more, it is obvious NATO is led by “Ubermenschen.”
But hey. The truth is very inconvenient.
The truth is complicated not inconvenient. Is NASA a Nazi organization? Are we not going to use rockets because it is Nazi tech?
What about NATO today is Nazi. What was Nazi about NATO then?
You’re being obtuse and intentionally a fool. Knock it off.
NASA hiring a ton of Nazis is not the win you think it is. Yes the West did not abolish Nazism. Churchill was a massive anti semite and white surpremacist. They mostly fought the Nazis because Hitler was about to steal their power. Not because of conflicting ideals.
Wait til 'e hears about NASA. 🫢
The guy who was involved in the plot to assasinate Hitler?
Who vehemetly denied being involved in that plot, was cleared by the German secret service for not being involved and was praised by Hitler for his autobiography?
If by evolution you mean “created to oppose” then yes. The question is what global organization will be created to fight against the evil of Trump and Putin.
Read a fucking history book
You’re a fucking moron.
What the hell
^ How to piss everyone off in one sentence
Literally the bravest thing I’ve seen all week
Yes, very far off.
Get bent you fucking Nazi shitbag
Average technocrit ragebait. Yawn.
Either extremely impressionable, or maybe had his account handed over after he was pulled off the street and conscripted into a ruzzian meat wave.
Either way, tragic waste of human life, being anywhere near involvement with their military.
It’s probably because USA is openly fascist while russia at least claims to oppose.
Putin and Xi claim to oppose fascism the exact same way that Trump does while the actions of all three directly contradict their lip service. This is the biggest crock of shit I’m probably going to read on the internet today.
Just look at ML or Hexbear right here on Lemmy. The tankies love Putin and Xi. Horseshoe is a law not a theory.
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I keep seeing this image repeated on Lemmy but I don’t buy it. It’s just an attempt for leftists to distance themselves from tankies. If you’re left but not a tankie, you are just center-left. Only tankies are far-left
What are anarchists? They are no tankies but also not center-left.
They aren’t on the political spectrum at all because they don’t believe in any kind of governance.
Tankies have almost nothing in common with the far left outisde teenagers who haven’t worked out the fundemental flaws with communism yet. Beyond those teenagers most left wing folk consider tankies to be pretty right wing.
not that i would die for fucking russia but its the lesser evil vs the us. i suppose its easier to see that if you are closely related to cia people.
the us has done and and even admitted to stuff far worse than most out there. its not the biggest military budget in the world (of all time?) for nothing.
Even if that were true, what does that have to do with Ukraine?
I certainly don’t recommend following the link to his obituary from the article and reading the entries in the traitor’s tribute book.
Example of some of those entries:
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Edit: Somebody noticed.
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Since they took the page down...
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The obit got pulled already
[Unwarranted snark removed. Technical difficulties, please stand by.]
Oh–I can’t see an edit or a spoiler, but I appreciate the screenshots.
Interesting, are you using a web browser or one of the apps?
Here are the posts I grabbed before the killjoys answered their urgent texts to shut it all down:
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Ended up answering my own question once I remembered the button that sent me to the lemmy.zip version of the thread, seems like that instance is failing to fetch the updates rather than this being a browser/app issue. That’s also why I’m double-replying to this comment rather than editing my other one here. Might be worth a message to the .zip instance admin(s) in case something’s busted, just going to check around first and see if it’s a known issue.
Edit that you might not see for a while: Looks like they’ve been doing some updates and other maintenance recently, might just take some time for the dust to settle from all of that. Can see the federation status between .world and .zip here.
Interesting, looks like it’s visible from almost all other instances, although I did find a couple where it’s not. I can’t see any differences due to lemmy version either (most instances are 19.11, where the edit is visible, but midwest.social is also on .11 and it’s not visible-- whereas lemmy.nz is on .10 and it’s also not there). Maybe I’ll shoot a message over to admin like you suggested.
Thx for posting the screenshots
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Seems like they’re aware of ongoing issues, maybe give it a couple days and see if things improve first. In any event, my pleasure. Gotta preserve art when you find it.
What growing up under the CIA does to a person.
Fucking moron
What an hero. They should all an hero themselves.
He doesn’t afraid of anything
Sounds like a good kill. Chose the wrong side, should have stayed home.
It seems he lost his mind, before losing his body too. :(
Check the ground near where the drone got him, you might still find remnants of both.
Oh no. Anyways
Glad he’s dead then
Tankie you for your service
Bro didn’t like that Israel invaded Gaza, so he joined Russian army in their invasion of Ukraine to make it right 🤷♂️