Top US official berates Europe over cutting American industry out of defense buildup (www.politico.eu)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 03:37
https://lemmy.world/post/39694831

Washington is unhappy that some European arms programs limit U.S. participation.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau on Wednesday slammed European NATO allies for prioritizing their own defense industry over American arms suppliers, according to three NATO diplomats.

The intervention came during Wednesday’s meeting of NATO foreign ministers — which was skipped by Landau’s boss Marco Rubio.

Landau, a longtime NATO skeptic who spoke first at the closed-door meeting, told ministers not to “bully” his country’s defense firms out of participating in Europe’s rearmament.

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andrewta@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 03:48 next collapse

Maybe that’s because we pissed everybody off.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 04 Dec 2025 06:53 collapse

all part of putins plan, is to isolate the US.

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 10:36 collapse

Divide et impera. He does that all over Europe, too, and has been doing it for decades. The USA is the main enemy though, and he already conquered that, Europe was always the prize.

LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe on 04 Dec 2025 04:25 next collapse

Looks like a smug fuck.

Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works on 04 Dec 2025 04:31 next collapse

Why didn’t Europe protect me from the consequences of my own actions?

WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org on 04 Dec 2025 04:31 next collapse

America isn’t a peer anymore.

k0e3@lemmy.ca on 04 Dec 2025 05:08 next collapse

The US just needs to pull itself up by the bootstraps and keep applying to more countries to land a contract.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 06:24 next collapse

Yep, America doesn’t like ‘hand outs’ anyway. So they’re honestly doing them a favor.

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 04 Dec 2025 06:49 collapse

But you see, we don’t have to earn it - y’all do! Or something. Fuck if I know…

forrgott@lemmy.zip on 04 Dec 2025 06:47 collapse

They literally cannot even imagine the idea that their own actions have consequences. Watching these brainless fucks mesmerize so many people around me is absolutely terrifying.

And whether you intended that strictly as sarcasm or not - you’re not wrong… We really do need to just sort our shit out as a country already. But there’s still some stubborn idiots like me that refuse to give up. Will it be enough to even give us a chance? I dunno

DaddleDew@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 05:13 next collapse

It’s like they’re not trusting the US for the defence of their sovereignty. That’s weird. I wonder why.

frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io on 04 Dec 2025 05:41 next collapse

Hasn't the regime been tell them to do more for their own defenses? Why are they getting mad at them for doing what was asked?

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 10:21 collapse

Because they’re a bunch of oligarch fascist psychopaths and they aren’t satisfied with dominating their own hemisphere anymore, they got control over their own, now they are going to do the same to Europe.

Between Russia and the USA, I’d say we need to up our defense budgets across the board and talk about much closer collaboration between our nations, to become a force of our own. It’s ridiculous this shit.

Tronn4@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 05:56 next collapse

slammed

middlemanSI@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 06:03 collapse

I was about to praise the use of the word berates but then I read on…

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 06:26 next collapse

When is US going to start buying Eurofighter or Leopard 2 then?

MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca on 04 Dec 2025 06:41 next collapse

Tarriftopia complaining about “protectionist and exclusionary policies that bully American companies out of the market” is amazing.

MrSulu@lemmy.ml on 04 Dec 2025 07:12 next collapse

European here. Good. Our elected officials are not yet so stupid as to think that stupid man has any actual sense.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 04 Dec 2025 07:55 next collapse

Washington is unhappy that some European arms programs limit U.S. participation.

Ok, we can make it all arms programs.

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 10:11 collapse

Let’s.

Fluke@feddit.uk on 04 Dec 2025 08:30 next collapse

Dear USA,

Womp womp.

Sincerely,

Everywhere Else.

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 10:10 next collapse

Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau on Wednesday slammed European NATO allies for prioritizing their own defense industry over American arms suppliers

BITCH YOU LITERALLY TOLD US THAT IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

Get fucked. I don’t consider the US allies anyway, we don’t ally with fascists.

Edit: i have been informed that I am to ease on the hyperbole, so correction: read the former through a lens of less hyperbole, violence is bad

Ninjasftw@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 10:30 next collapse

I think you’ll find that what they wanted was Europe to increase their defences spending by buying US made weapons not make their own.

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 14:49 collapse

“No, not like that!”

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 11:08 collapse

They want us to fend for ourselves by buying their stuff.

They are idots but it is the reasonable position from their point of view. What is completely unreasonable is the move away from Europe and toward authoitarianism.

tomiant@piefed.social on 04 Dec 2025 14:49 collapse

That’s the empire. Economic victory condition a few turns away. Important turns.

cecilkorik@piefed.ca on 05 Dec 2025 05:31 collapse

“A few turns away” until suddenly the meme of the kid riding a bike shoving a stick in his own spokes.

Well I guess this game is going to be keeping me up all night after all.

tomiant@piefed.social on 05 Dec 2025 12:55 collapse

Just… One… More… Turn…

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 10:12 next collapse

The EU is buying a ton of American weapons though?

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 12:25 next collapse

Just wait until the post-tariff trade deals start hitting in a year or two.

America doesn’t have any idea yet the scope of disaster that Donald has created, and the worst part is that he and the other billionaires are insulated from it.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 05 Dec 2025 02:17 collapse

Insulated? Profiting off every move more like.

P00ptart@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2025 13:25 next collapse

Womp womp.

cv_octavio@piefed.ca on 04 Dec 2025 15:25 next collapse

thoughts and prayers 

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 05 Dec 2025 07:05 next collapse

respond by expelling thier embassies.

andallthat@lemmy.world on 05 Dec 2025 07:28 collapse

Oh, new intelligence has just emerged that your country’s government is supporting a terrorist organization that sending drugs to the US! /s

notsure@fedia.io on 05 Dec 2025 07:14 next collapse

...as a US citizen, i am ashamed.

perestroika@slrpnk.net on 05 Dec 2025 18:16 next collapse

Quick, bring out the bicycle meme.

The US has a president who’s gone to great length in demonstrating that the US is unreliable and could be treacherous.

For example, why should Denmark or its allies (the entire EU and NATO) buy weapons from a country whose president has indicated that he dreams of annexing Greenland?

The situation currently is such: Ukraine needs weapons right now, and will happily use European money to buy US weapons. But purchases where multiple alternatives are viable, and there’s no hurry? Countries have started preferring their own weapons, or those of countries that are in the same boat.

Here in Eastern Europe, if offered a choice between a hypothetic identical US missile and a Swedish missile, I would consider it likely that supplies of the US missile may be absent at a critical time, while supplies of a Swedish missile will surely increase at a critical time. They’re under the same umbrella and will help patch it if someone tries breaking it.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 06 Dec 2025 02:26 next collapse

Biggest global rearming since WW1 and people are cheering about it like they don’t understand what happens next.

Humanius@lemmy.world on 06 Dec 2025 11:33 collapse

Most people aren’t cheering that we are rearming, but they understand that it is a necessary evil.

Russia is right at our doorsteps and is increasingly aggressive. So we either rearm in the hope that that threat keeps Russia at bay, or we don’t and will hopelessly lose if Russia invades.

Personally I prefer the first option.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 06 Dec 2025 15:33 collapse

Most people aren’t cheering that we are rearming, but they understand that it is a necessary evil.

Plenty of people are chomping at the bit for a Glorious New War we can all watch on the TV.

Russia is right at our doorsteps

That hasn’t been true in over 40 years. And even when it was true, Europeans suffered far more under the paranoid police states of their own governments than any cross border conflict.

Personally I prefer the first option.

Not like any of us have a material say, but enjoy conscription I guess.

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml on 07 Dec 2025 12:18 collapse

European bureucrats like von der Leyen are spineless American lapdogs. They will apologise and kiss Trump’s feet. They always have.