tidderuuf@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 22:46
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I’ll make Cuba a deal. You let Trump have the entire island, he can move there and all his goons turn it into Epstein Island 2.0, then all the Cubans can move to Florida and we just let you have that entire state as a sorry for fucking you over for so long. To not confuse anyone Puerto Rico will be the 50th state and anyone in Florida who doesn’t like what happened can go with Trump or move to Puerto Rico, full expenses paid.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 09:13
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Live where they rent is cheap and find out.
CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca
on 17 Mar 02:30
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Boom! Roasted!
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 16 Mar 23:13
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He’s talking awfully big for a guy getting his ass kicked by a country with a depleted military.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 01:16
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a guy getting his ass kicked
The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.
It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.
What they’ve accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn’t come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.
Military force kills people and breaks things. The US military is incredibly good at this. Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes is the job of politicians, and the Executive Branch happens to be incredibly bad at this.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 09:16
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Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes
The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And only because if was so devastating, on a scale of cruelty never seen before.
As a German: Hell yes! The Nazis needed putting down and that entire worldview got a thrashing that lastet us a good 70 years before Germany is on the verge of falling to the fash again.
You asked me an irrelevant question, because the original point, to which you replied, was not if bombing stuff did anything.
Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes
Is this even possible?
So you seem to believe that during WWII the bombing led to a positive outcome, a claim you make and that I challenged. Now of course you’re free to provide evidence supporting your claim, but I do not believe that the bombing led to a positive outcome.
You asked me an irrelevant question, because the original point, to which you replied, was not if bombing stuff did anything.
I think you’ve misread something. The statement I replied to was this one:
The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In that statement, you made the claim that no other bombing than those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did anything. I’m challenging that claim, which means I’m saying “I’m not convinced that your claim is true”. Don’t confuse that with me saying “I’m convinced that your claim is false”.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 14:27
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The Russian march across Eastern Europe involved much more than raw manpower. Soviet Tanks were a force to be reconned with. Their use of artillery was inspired. Georgy Zhukov was a genius field marshal and outmaneuvered the fascist armies both retreating and advancing. He did not just win on numbers.
That said, you’ll find quite a few Cold Warriors who took the view - after the dust had settled - that Europe would have been far better united under a German military dictatorship than bifricated between NATO and the Soviet Union.
Talking awfully big for a man threatening a country with arguably one of the best infiltrations of the US intelligence network since the USSR. I’m unsure how true it is since the Cold War, but time was when you couldn’t go take a shit in the Pentagon without Castro knowing about it.
The fact that the American military is going along with these stupid endeavours just show you how ignorant fucking Americans and the military are. Spineless, gutless cowards who can’t fight their way out of anything including trumps diaper.
The American military is a den of animals and monsters. disgusting subhuman cowards; Bloodthirsty beasts.
Dehumanising people, calling them animals, subhuman, beasts, etc - using their own horrid, evil tactics basically - is not how you win me, or anybody decent, over.
They can be bad people doing bad things, but the moment you try to persuade us that they’re not human, but are less than human (and it thus follows that doing bad things to them is more acceptable than doing bad things to actual human people), you immediately lose my support.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 02:18
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Like most bad gifts, I think it largely depends how it’s presented. While the mango fascist isn’t literally a white elephant, he is a white supremacist republican, and that’s pretty close. I would love to see what Cuba would do with them. In the case of many white elephant gifts, sometimes the best thing to do is hang them from a wall so you’ll have a story to tell.
They were never satire. This is exactly who Trump told us he would be. It’s who he tried to be during his first term but some of the checks and balances were still intact.
charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 03:49
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didn’t the military just blow up a leader of another country? i imagine it can’t be to difficult with the right intelligence and military tech these days
Does Cuba even have the missiles and drones to do this? The Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces are equipped with mostly outdated and cobbled together technology.
I couldn’t find any long range strike capability in this [list of equipment](Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces). That doesn’t mean they don’t have any. A couple of containers filled with Shahed long range drones could be hiding in a warehouse. Serious ballistic missiles are less likely to exist. I couldn’t find any info on the Air Force owning cruise missiles for their jets.
Cuba could run a fierce defense and Guerilla war against an full invasion. They have the culture, experience, equipment, and organization for it. That is, if the will to fight is strong enough
CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca
on 17 Mar 02:30
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“You can’t have any Cuba if you have not finished your Iran.”
US is a similar style of “democracy” to modern-day russia, in that despite there being elections, whoever ordinary people vote for they are still fucked and the oligarchs get all the money and power. It’s just that the US political system achieves the same goals with a slightly more sophisticated machinery of “two parties” serving the same interests, which is enough to fool many people into believing they have a meaningful choice.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 10:10
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The new one will be worse. No fatwa against nukes…
They did nothing, at least not directly. Eventual war should be focused on overthrowing the regime woth minimal harm to civilians, same as the Venezuelan war
Again I ask: what has Cuba done to you? Or really, literally, anyone else on the planet? Leave them the fuck alone.
Have you considered asking if the Cubans living in Cuba want that? What has been consistently bad for Cubans, for like 60 years now, is the unjustifiable embargo that’s still ongoing.
And despite said embargo, Cuba has been doing alright. They have done nothing to deserve any kind of foreign intervention by anyone.
You know that you can just get a visa, go there, and talk to people there, right? Or watch many of the interviews from reporters (western or otherwise) who went there already. It’s not like NK where you can only visit certain pre-approved areas with a “tour guide” either, in Cuba you can go whenever you want (within reason) and talk to whomever you want.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
on 17 Mar 06:16
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Well, at least he has lowered his expectations down from Canada and Greenland, but given how Iran is going, his threats are empty for now. There’s a little bit of me that worries that Agent Krasnov might be doing this in cooperation with Russia.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
on 17 Mar 07:48
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“A little bit…”
Only a little? Are you a little slow…
No rational explanation for the events of the past few months is good. You can look at the events as separate or string them together, you can wear an aluminium tin hat and make a conspiracy board of events but in all situations america, the west and the world lose.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 10:16
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If Trump’s America invades Heard Island (the penguin island he imposed tariffs on) it might even get a win.
Then again, it would probably piss of Australia.
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 07:08
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In the fifth year of WW3, the US is going to be saying the same damn thing. Gotta finished up your Iran before you get any Cuba, little Donny.
Maybe if they get spread thin enough, Greenland can launch a counter attack with their polar bears and moose. Come on Latin America, stir them up a bit more just by being there minding your own business speaking “foreign” and looking tanned. That’ll do it.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 10:12
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Trump seems to be speed-running the “overextend yourself militarily” part of the late stage in the collapse of empires.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 12:18
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The investment in Agent Krasnov is paying dividends
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 13:15
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That a sleazy criminal crook like Trump got elected and that he gets away with doing what he does is 100% the fault of the American system, the American elites and the American people.
No amount of foreign interference would be able to even wobble this building if it wasn’t already rotten from the inside down to its foundations.
Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and if it wasn’t him, it would sooner or later be somebody else like him.
So please stop parroting the Neoliberal version of the “blame the foreigners” self-excusing nationalist propaganda that deflects from the 100% local people who are most to blame for what’s happenning, the deserved punishment for their actions at the hands of the common citizens - this shit would never have happenned without decades of pillaging by insiders, subversion of the guardians of Democracy like Courts and the Press, widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism switching of people’s critical thinking about their country and the purposeful stupidification of the populace.
Next to the sleazy greedy assholes and a culture normalizing and even applauding sleaze and greed in America, the impact of even the most influencial of foreign states - Israel - is tiny.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip
on 17 Mar 14:25
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The local people are to blame, but they’ve been influenced by decades of foreign-backed media/ propaganda and ideologues. Yes, some of it is due to the selfishness and greed of American culture - at every level - but the collapse is due to a confluence of multiple factors. And a non-trivial factor has been the influence of foreign propaganda and henchmen (it’s not just Donald Trump that is beholden to Russia/ Israel).
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 15:39
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Go check who owns most of the Press in America - it ain’t foreigners.
Go check who owns most of the Social Media in America - it ain’t foreigners.
The rot not only predates Social Media, but the very Social Media that accelerated it is American-owned.
I’m sorry but you’re just being a useful idiot when you parrot the very deflection propaganda of the local power elites that I mentioned in my last post.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip
on 17 Mar 16:40
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Agree that the problems predate social media. Also agree with your assessment of the courts and insider palm greasing. To the dumbing down of the populace: there has always been an undercurrent of conservative white people trying to maintain the county’s wealth and power for themselves.
But this:
widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism >switching of people’s critical thinking about their >country and the purposeful stupidification of the >populace
Was made infinitely worse by the media environment post-9/11. Since at least 2005, it has been apparent that there was an intentional effort to sell conflicting versions of events to the people so that they could not discern what was true. Yes, all of the American media at the time contributed to the garbage decision to go into Iraq. Initially though, the worst of the confusion of facts was largely driven by Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News. All of the Internet has greatly exacerbated this since then, and it has been asymptotic post-2020.
Yes, American culture has (always?) been narcissistic and obnoxiously self-aggrandizing. But America had been a gigantic population of wealthy consumers for decades. So it draws all the avaristic psychopaths from around the world like moths to a flame. Are the local people to blame for the machinations of Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk? Saudi Arabian and Russian wealth underwrote Musk’s acquisition of Twitter, even if you count him as one of “the local people”. To the headless beast that is social media now, you have Russia contributing millions of dollars via Tenet Media in the 2024 campaign.
Obviously there are plenty of American bad actors in this stew of billionaire-owned manipulative media, but most of them act with an agenda that does not involve ripping the country apart.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Mar 17:35
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What I’m talking about here is the massive social, political and economic trends of the life-cycle of an Empire.
So keep on Zooming Back your perspective.
Here is an historic graphic of Social Mobility in the US.
Here is the Gini Coeficient that measures inequality (the higher the more unequal), which actually understates the reality because it’s not that great at reflecting internal inequality in the top quintile (i.e. things like how the top 1% are now way much richer than the top 10% than before).
So all the way back in the 1970s, America started changing from the “Land Of Opportunity” were “everybody has a chance” as shown by it’s massive social mobility back then to the equivalent of a feudal system - a zero-merit environment where the rich are rich because their parents were rich and those born into poverty are unable to rise up from poverty - AND on top of that the richer were getting richer and the rest were getting poorer.
For most of the population that meant more povert and less opportunity hence less hope. From that you get more discontent.
So, how do the elites pillaging a society deal with such increase in discontent due to the activities of said elites?
Deceive the masses (for example: more and more lying in Politics, Press capture and subversion into a Propaganda machine and in present day psychological manipulation via Social Media), increase oppression (for example: ever more murderous policing, criminalization of “no victim” activities and harsher punishements) and in the case of a Democracy subvert the systems by which the citizens chose who will manage the nation (for example: political corruption, Gerrymandering, taking the vote away from felons - which typically hail from the poor - and, specifically in the barelly-Democratic US system, internal capture of the two parties in the duopoly of power that rules the country as illustrated by how the DNC gave the nomination to Hillary Clinton some years ago).
So the entire system was pillaged by local elites and then when the discontent caused by that pillaging grew, it was corrupted by those very same elites to redirect or suppress the consequences for those elites.
Foreign interference in present day America, is like maggots in a zombie - they’re not what made it a zombie and there would be no maggots in it if had not already been turned into a zombie.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 12:19
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When I was a kid I always dreamed of visiting the USA.
Now, I will only visit it once. To piss on Trump’s grave when he dies.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 13:17
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I think there will be a large tourist line for that. Even Americans will want to partake. Haha
you probably won’t be able to afford the ticket…
if there is one thing i know about america’s capitalist pigs, is that you will 100% be charged money at the gate to go and piss on his grave, and it will cost more than fifa tickets.
although, ironically… i only ever had to pay to use the pissers in europe lol, this will be america’s first pay toilet lol! …and that is still a better legacy than her deserves
flightyhobler@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 18:28
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It’s funny because I’ve had the exact same thoughts!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Naval blockades are an act of war in international law (as much as that matters anymore). Cuba seems to be the first target of Trump expansionism in the Americas. It has the potential to be the annexation of Czechoslovakia of our time.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 13:07
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but the other third? either openly approve or don’t care enough to even vote against it lol. the bare minimum
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip
on 17 Mar 14:38
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The US has had centuries of the conservative white majority consistently trying to suppress the vote of minorities and the youth. Hundreds of thousands of voters were purged from the voter rolls shortly before the 2024 elections, with a majority of those purged being minorities.
Sauce: sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here…
Many conservative states put fewer polling locations in poor communities. They block measures to make voting easier like same day registration and vote by mail.
Stop demonizing people that have been systematically disempowered. The Republicans in the Senate are about to shut down all other business in an attempt to strip married women of the right to vote.
This is his dementia talking, or more specifically, his frontotemporal dementia, a major symptom of which is that his brain no longer has efffective impulse control He lacks inhibition, much like you see in drunk people, and he’s just acting on whatever idiotic thought pops into his head or gets mentioned to him
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 18:52
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Bruh
freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world
on 17 Mar 19:37
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I’m so glad I listened to all the posters who said voting for the Democrats was voting for GENOCIDE. Boy we sure dodged a bullet there didn’t we!
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I’ll make Cuba a deal. You let Trump have the entire island, he can move there and all his goons turn it into Epstein Island 2.0, then all the Cubans can move to Florida and we just let you have that entire state as a sorry for fucking you over for so long. To not confuse anyone Puerto Rico will be the 50th state and anyone in Florida who doesn’t like what happened can go with Trump or move to Puerto Rico, full expenses paid.
A statement like this makes you sound as sociopathic as Trump. Fuck everything about this. No quarter for pedophiles.
There is no world in which Cuban would ever want to live under the American government. That’s literally the entire point of this whole thing.
Trump is an evil evil man, anybody who can’t see that is a sociopath or worse.
Willful.
When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Just grab 'em!
Will Cuba agree to that?
Grab’em by the Bay of Pigs.
Someone should tell Trump that Cuba is older than 16.
Cuban expats are a popular target for human trafficking. Come down to Houston or Miami and you’ll find Cuban migrants all over the strip club scene.
How can you tell?
Live where they rent is cheap and find out.
Boom! Roasted!
He’s talking awfully big for a guy getting his ass kicked by a country with a depleted military.
The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.
It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.
What they’ve accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn’t come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.
Military force kills people and breaks things. The US military is incredibly good at this. Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes is the job of politicians, and the Executive Branch happens to be incredibly bad at this.
Is this even possible?
WW2
The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And only because if was so devastating, on a scale of cruelty never seen before.
So the war itself, absent the bombings had no power of destruction, killed no one?
Is that a positive outcome?
It was better than letting the genociders take over without pushback.
As a German: Hell yes! The Nazis needed putting down and that entire worldview got a thrashing that lastet us a good 70 years before Germany is on the verge of falling to the fash again.
So the bombing of tanks, factories, trains, and bridges did nothing?
I’d argue that it did less than what Russia did in WWII: invade with overwhelming superiority in men
That’s irrelevant to this point. I asked you a yes / no question. You’re free to concede the point if you don’t want to answer.
You asked me an irrelevant question, because the original point, to which you replied, was not if bombing stuff did anything.
So you seem to believe that during WWII the bombing led to a positive outcome, a claim you make and that I challenged. Now of course you’re free to provide evidence supporting your claim, but I do not believe that the bombing led to a positive outcome.
I think you’ve misread something. The statement I replied to was this one:
In that statement, you made the claim that no other bombing than those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did anything. I’m challenging that claim, which means I’m saying “I’m not convinced that your claim is true”. Don’t confuse that with me saying “I’m convinced that your claim is false”.
The Russian march across Eastern Europe involved much more than raw manpower. Soviet Tanks were a force to be reconned with. Their use of artillery was inspired. Georgy Zhukov was a genius field marshal and outmaneuvered the fascist armies both retreating and advancing. He did not just win on numbers.
That said, you’ll find quite a few Cold Warriors who took the view - after the dust had settled - that Europe would have been far better united under a German military dictatorship than bifricated between NATO and the Soviet Union.
Japan was already ready to surrender actually. The fire bombings had done the job.
True. Then I can’t think of any examples where it might have worked in history.
Business Collaboration with Nazi Germany
I would also refer you to the Lord Halifax, Documents And Materials Relating To The Eve Of The Second World War Vol. 1
The Nazi War machine only existed thanks to the Trans-Atlantic military industrial complex.
Probably, but only in retrospect.
… ass kicked huh?
Yep, and literally begging our allies to save him.
Its great you believe that narrative
Yours is a very helpful comment. Thank you for replying and have a great day.
Talking awfully big for a man threatening a country with arguably one of the best infiltrations of the US intelligence network since the USSR. I’m unsure how true it is since the Cold War, but time was when you couldn’t go take a shit in the Pentagon without Castro knowing about it.
If he’s saying it, I’ll believe it. And I also think he sees this as a way to win the midterms with few Hispanic vote.
Cuban CIA, could do the funniest thing and nobody would know because it would just look like he died of burger.
Nah, go traditional. Get him an exploding cigar.
I don’t think he smokes. Split the difference, exploding burger.
The fact that the American military is going along with these stupid endeavours just show you how ignorant fucking Americans and the military are. Spineless, gutless cowards who can’t fight their way out of anything including trumps diaper.
Get fucked Americans. You. Fucking. All. Suck.
The American military is a den of animals and monsters. disgusting subhuman cowards; Bloodthirsty beasts.
Dehumanising people, calling them animals, subhuman, beasts, etc - using their own horrid, evil tactics basically - is not how you win me, or anybody decent, over.
They can be bad people doing bad things, but the moment you try to persuade us that they’re not human, but are less than human (and it thus follows that doing bad things to them is more acceptable than doing bad things to actual human people), you immediately lose my support.
No thank you.
They act like inhuman beasts then that is what they are. Barbaric scum it hope PTSD or the neglect of their nazi empire takes them.
What a sack of shit. Time to take this international shame of a clown behind the East Wing…
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Fuck off
The last time a US President tried to overthrow the Cuban government, bad things happened. <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4b25e728-2487-4fe0-8797-79e7bae5804f.jpeg">
Are you implying Cuba killed JFK?
I see no implication anywhere. Just stating a correlation, which as we all know is not causation.
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People don’t bring up correlations without suggesting there is some link.
Was it funny? Did you laugh? Then it doesn’t matter!
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Naa bro, his head just did that.
Cuba got his secret service drunk enough for a horrific misfire?
If nothing else, at least future history class will be fun.
“So what are you taking next semester?”
“Trump Studies”
“Oh, I’ve heard that’s so easy. Just remember when you’re writing a test that everything he did was wrong.”
It’ll be the only multiple choice test where all of the right answers are the stupid options.
Sounds like something a true predator would say.
he can have gitmo. yeah…let’s put him and all his criminal friends in gitmo.
Nah shut it down and give it to the Cubans. There are easier ways to deal with the Epstein class.
10g of lead aught to do it.
“Acute lead poisoning at supersonic velocities”
Por que no los dos? Put them in there and give it back to Cuba!
They have dealt with enough of our shit honestly.
Like most bad gifts, I think it largely depends how it’s presented. While the mango fascist isn’t literally a white elephant, he is a white supremacist republican, and that’s pretty close. I would love to see what Cuba would do with them. In the case of many white elephant gifts, sometimes the best thing to do is hang them from a wall so you’ll have a story to tell.
Epstein rhymes with guillotine
Another “adversary” that previous administrations have known better than to attack.
Rapist language.
I would have thought Cuba is too old for Trump
I learned about Cuba in school so this statement is accurate.
This man is a Tyrant. The comparisons to the Third Reich aren’t just satire anymore; this is exactly what it is.
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Always has been!
I deeply appreciate the small detailed Cuban flag on the Astronaut suit. Well done.
That’s Ohio! It has always been Ohio! www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQs7d8NgG9c
They were never satire. This is exactly who Trump told us he would be. It’s who he tried to be during his first term but some of the checks and balances were still intact.
Mar A Lago is drone & missle range from Cuba. He should not be poking that bear.
Oh, pretty fucking please blow it up when he’s there!
We need to uncover the corpses buried there first.
They’ll rest in peace if there’s retribution
🙏
Cuba, if you’re listening…
didn’t the military just blow up a leader of another country? i imagine it can’t be to difficult with the right intelligence and military tech these days
And in doing so, showed that if you’re capable and make up a reason, there is nothing wrong with it.
If USA can murder leaders around the world, so can Cuba.
Yeah, I agree, that’s kind of what I was attempting to say
In the meantime, lets watch
Does Cuba even have the missiles and drones to do this? The Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces are equipped with mostly outdated and cobbled together technology.
I couldn’t find any long range strike capability in this [list of equipment](Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces). That doesn’t mean they don’t have any. A couple of containers filled with Shahed long range drones could be hiding in a warehouse. Serious ballistic missiles are less likely to exist. I couldn’t find any info on the Air Force owning cruise missiles for their jets.
Cuba could run a fierce defense and Guerilla war against an full invasion. They have the culture, experience, equipment, and organization for it. That is, if the will to fight is strong enough
“You can’t have any Cuba if you have not finished your Iran.”
Can’t*
How can you have any Cuba if you don’t eat yer Iran?!
Elian Gonzales is now a Cuban legislator, it would be the second time the US taking him into custody made international news
After Cuba he’s finished his wars right……Right???
Who had bay of pigs 2 electric boogaloo on their 2026 bingo card?
Only Donald Trump can outdo Donald Trump at being a piece of shit.
He is reaching levels of shit nobody thought possible!
It’s crazy how often he accidentally admits he’s a sexual-assault enthusiast, like here.
How is this surprising from President Grab-Em-By-The-Pussy?
Iran away to Cuba.
TRUMP will have th honor of taking cuba at the behest of MARCO RUBIO.
Just dictator things.
HURRY CUBA, GET CHAINMAIL UNDERWEAR!!!
Finish with Iran first.
I support overthrowing totalitarian regimes, but Trump made “no new wars” a big point of his campaign
He should start by overthrowing the US totalitarian regime.
The US, despite popular (here, on lemmy) belief is not totalitarian or even authoritarian.
The US is a democracy, flawed one and only bipartisan, but still a democracy
Remember: Hitler was also “democratically elected”.
Yes, and he, unlike orange ape, quickly abolished democracy.
The US is still a democratic country
Not any longer. Things are rigged.
In favor of Democrats I suppose? They’re winning all the elections they can realistically win and the popular support for them is bigger than ever
US is a similar style of “democracy” to modern-day russia, in that despite there being elections, whoever ordinary people vote for they are still fucked and the oligarchs get all the money and power. It’s just that the US political system achieves the same goals with a slightly more sophisticated machinery of “two parties” serving the same interests, which is enough to fool many people into believing they have a meaningful choice.
The new one will be worse. No fatwa against nukes…
What did Cuba do to you?
They did nothing, at least not directly. Eventual war should be focused on overthrowing the regime woth minimal harm to civilians, same as the Venezuelan war
Why
Because we don’t want civilian casualties?
No, why do we need to overthrow the government of Cuba in the first place? Surely that’s where the casualties would be coming from.
Because the existence of totalitarian regime on Cuba is a bad thing for the world and cubans
Again I ask: what has Cuba done to you? Or really, literally, anyone else on the planet? Leave them the fuck alone.
Have you considered asking if the Cubans living in Cuba want that? What has been consistently bad for Cubans, for like 60 years now, is the unjustifiable embargo that’s still ongoing.
And despite said embargo, Cuba has been doing alright. They have done nothing to deserve any kind of foreign intervention by anyone.
I’m afraid I can’t ask them now, nor they can choose for themselves
What do you think life is like in Cuba? Honest question.
I know Cuba isn’t democratic. Life there is probably similar to one in China, considering both have similiar GDP per capita and HDI.
You know that you can just get a visa, go there, and talk to people there, right? Or watch many of the interviews from reporters (western or otherwise) who went there already. It’s not like NK where you can only visit certain pre-approved areas with a “tour guide” either, in Cuba you can go whenever you want (within reason) and talk to whomever you want.
Well, at least he has lowered his expectations down from Canada and Greenland, but given how Iran is going, his threats are empty for now. There’s a little bit of me that worries that Agent Krasnov might be doing this in cooperation with Russia.
“A little bit…”
Only a little? Are you a little slow…
No rational explanation for the events of the past few months is good. You can look at the events as separate or string them together, you can wear an aluminium tin hat and make a conspiracy board of events but in all situations america, the west and the world lose.
If Trump’s America invades Heard Island (the penguin island he imposed tariffs on) it might even get a win.
Then again, it would probably piss of Australia.
In the fifth year of WW3, the US is going to be saying the same damn thing. Gotta finished up your Iran before you get any Cuba, little Donny.
Venezuela is getting cold
You can’t have your Canada until you finish your other wars of aggression, young man!
Maybe if they get spread thin enough, Greenland can launch a counter attack with their polar bears and moose. Come on Latin America, stir them up a bit more just by being there minding your own business speaking “foreign” and looking tanned. That’ll do it.
pearl-cluthing intensifies
Funniest thing ever, inuits covertly invading USA.
With moose
Meese. The plural for moose is (unfortunately not) meese.
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Meese
Trump seems to be speed-running the “overextend yourself militarily” part of the late stage in the collapse of empires.
The investment in Agent Krasnov is paying dividends
That a sleazy criminal crook like Trump got elected and that he gets away with doing what he does is 100% the fault of the American system, the American elites and the American people.
No amount of foreign interference would be able to even wobble this building if it wasn’t already rotten from the inside down to its foundations.
Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and if it wasn’t him, it would sooner or later be somebody else like him.
So please stop parroting the Neoliberal version of the “blame the foreigners” self-excusing nationalist propaganda that deflects from the 100% local people who are most to blame for what’s happenning, the deserved punishment for their actions at the hands of the common citizens - this shit would never have happenned without decades of pillaging by insiders, subversion of the guardians of Democracy like Courts and the Press, widespread ridiculous amounts of Nationalism switching of people’s critical thinking about their country and the purposeful stupidification of the populace.
Next to the sleazy greedy assholes and a culture normalizing and even applauding sleaze and greed in America, the impact of even the most influencial of foreign states - Israel - is tiny.
The local people are to blame, but they’ve been influenced by decades of foreign-backed media/ propaganda and ideologues. Yes, some of it is due to the selfishness and greed of American culture - at every level - but the collapse is due to a confluence of multiple factors. And a non-trivial factor has been the influence of foreign propaganda and henchmen (it’s not just Donald Trump that is beholden to Russia/ Israel).
Go check who owns most of the Press in America - it ain’t foreigners.
Go check who owns most of the Social Media in America - it ain’t foreigners.
The rot not only predates Social Media, but the very Social Media that accelerated it is American-owned.
I’m sorry but you’re just being a useful idiot when you parrot the very deflection propaganda of the local power elites that I mentioned in my last post.
Agree that the problems predate social media. Also agree with your assessment of the courts and insider palm greasing. To the dumbing down of the populace: there has always been an undercurrent of conservative white people trying to maintain the county’s wealth and power for themselves.
But this:
Was made infinitely worse by the media environment post-9/11. Since at least 2005, it has been apparent that there was an intentional effort to sell conflicting versions of events to the people so that they could not discern what was true. Yes, all of the American media at the time contributed to the garbage decision to go into Iraq. Initially though, the worst of the confusion of facts was largely driven by Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News. All of the Internet has greatly exacerbated this since then, and it has been asymptotic post-2020.
Yes, American culture has (always?) been narcissistic and obnoxiously self-aggrandizing. But America had been a gigantic population of wealthy consumers for decades. So it draws all the avaristic psychopaths from around the world like moths to a flame. Are the local people to blame for the machinations of Rupert Murdoch, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk? Saudi Arabian and Russian wealth underwrote Musk’s acquisition of Twitter, even if you count him as one of “the local people”. To the headless beast that is social media now, you have Russia contributing millions of dollars via Tenet Media in the 2024 campaign.
Obviously there are plenty of American bad actors in this stew of billionaire-owned manipulative media, but most of them act with an agenda that does not involve ripping the country apart.
What I’m talking about here is the massive social, political and economic trends of the life-cycle of an Empire.
So keep on Zooming Back your perspective.
Here is an historic graphic of Social Mobility in the US.
Here is the Gini Coeficient that measures inequality (the higher the more unequal), which actually understates the reality because it’s not that great at reflecting internal inequality in the top quintile (i.e. things like how the top 1% are now way much richer than the top 10% than before).
So all the way back in the 1970s, America started changing from the “Land Of Opportunity” were “everybody has a chance” as shown by it’s massive social mobility back then to the equivalent of a feudal system - a zero-merit environment where the rich are rich because their parents were rich and those born into poverty are unable to rise up from poverty - AND on top of that the richer were getting richer and the rest were getting poorer.
For most of the population that meant more povert and less opportunity hence less hope. From that you get more discontent.
So, how do the elites pillaging a society deal with such increase in discontent due to the activities of said elites?
Deceive the masses (for example: more and more lying in Politics, Press capture and subversion into a Propaganda machine and in present day psychological manipulation via Social Media), increase oppression (for example: ever more murderous policing, criminalization of “no victim” activities and harsher punishements) and in the case of a Democracy subvert the systems by which the citizens chose who will manage the nation (for example: political corruption, Gerrymandering, taking the vote away from felons - which typically hail from the poor - and, specifically in the barelly-Democratic US system, internal capture of the two parties in the duopoly of power that rules the country as illustrated by how the DNC gave the nomination to Hillary Clinton some years ago).
So the entire system was pillaged by local elites and then when the discontent caused by that pillaging grew, it was corrupted by those very same elites to redirect or suppress the consequences for those elites.
Foreign interference in present day America, is like maggots in a zombie - they’re not what made it a zombie and there would be no maggots in it if had not already been turned into a zombie.
When I was a kid I always dreamed of visiting the USA.
Now, I will only visit it once. To piss on Trump’s grave when he dies.
I think there will be a large tourist line for that. Even Americans will want to partake. Haha
Put it behind a 10 dollar ticket and some good could be done with the billions of dollars.
you probably won’t be able to afford the ticket… if there is one thing i know about america’s capitalist pigs, is that you will 100% be charged money at the gate to go and piss on his grave, and it will cost more than fifa tickets.
although, ironically… i only ever had to pay to use the pissers in europe lol, this will be america’s first pay toilet lol! …and that is still a better legacy than her deserves
It’s funny because I’ve had the exact same thoughts!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Naval blockades are an act of war in international law (as much as that matters anymore). Cuba seems to be the first target of Trump expansionism in the Americas. It has the potential to be the annexation of Czechoslovakia of our time.
The USA is a terrorist country.
filled with a terrorist population
yeah, sure, a third of them aren’t terrorists
but the other third? either openly approve or don’t care enough to even vote against it lol. the bare minimum
The US has had centuries of the conservative white majority consistently trying to suppress the vote of minorities and the youth. Hundreds of thousands of voters were purged from the voter rolls shortly before the 2024 elections, with a majority of those purged being minorities. Sauce: sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here…
Many conservative states put fewer polling locations in poor communities. They block measures to make voting easier like same day registration and vote by mail.
Stop demonizing people that have been systematically disempowered. The Republicans in the Senate are about to shut down all other business in an attempt to strip married women of the right to vote.
Delusional freak.
Wasn’t he trying to make people forget about the Epstein files? Because jfc that isn’t how you do it
Trump doesnt know truth even when it slaps his ignorant head
“The honor of taking Cuba” sounds like an old man talking about a young girl he’s about to rape.
Well he does have experience
Grabbing countries by the pussy.
Spoken like a true rapist.
This dude has to get got.
Epstein files
Rapist gonna rape
I never thought I’d see the day when even childish Saturday morning cartoon villainy became this real.
This is his dementia talking, or more specifically, his frontotemporal dementia, a major symptom of which is that his brain no longer has efffective impulse control He lacks inhibition, much like you see in drunk people, and he’s just acting on whatever idiotic thought pops into his head or gets mentioned to him
Bruh
I’m so glad I listened to all the posters who said voting for the Democrats was voting for GENOCIDE. Boy we sure dodged a bullet there didn’t we!
Like turn it into Epstein island
Already has Guantanamo Bay.