Israeli troops fire on Unifil positions in south Lebanon region where Irish troops based
(www.irishtimes.com)
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from mannycalavera@feddit.uk to world@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2024 13:54
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I wonder what “Irish American Zionist” Joe Biden thinks of this?
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Oh no. Who could have predicted this, other than literally everybody.
Israel is out of control (and has been for a long while) and must be stopped.
Israel doesn’t have much love for the Irish given they are pretty sympathetic and outspoken about the Palestinian plight for obvious reasons. What a fucking mess
The colonizing people of the world see themselves in Israel.
The colonized people of the world see themselves in Palestine.
I dont know who said it first, but it rings true every day.
It’s so obvious yet hard to notice. Great observation to whoever said that.
Actually it goes back farther.
The IRA was trained, in part, by the PLO.
The early anti-guerilla operations by the British in Palestine, before Israel was a state but when Palestine was fighting Zionists (literally what they called themselves, with a stated goal of just taking over Palestine and getting rid of the native population which includes Palestinian Jews), were just “well the Crown says we can’t do this in Ireland but they’re not looking here in Palestine.”
This includes literally tying Palestinian captives to grilles or loading them onto forward-mounted trailers in a convoy to act as human shields. This includes retributive strikes against guerilla’s families and friends.
Ireland has a HELL of a good reason to be close to Palestine, because it literally actually happened to them.
Democrats are evil scum, no one should be voting for them.
Except the other option is worse. And you are complicit in whoever wins if you don’t vote at all.
One cannot be held accountable for not participating.
Yes, you can. It’s just a trolley problem, and you’re choosing to not flip the switch. It’s still your choice and has consequences.
So if someone gives you a gun and tells you to shoot 10 people in the head or they will kill 20 people, you are saying that it’s a moral obligation to shoot the 10 people in the head?
Non sequitur size: belief-beggaring
Have you literally never heard of the trolley problem?
This is what it looks like when the cartoons are replaced with humans.
You are morally responsible in some degree for 20 people dying rather than 10. Though, in that example, I seriously doubt that most people would think the moral choice is to shoot the 10 people. Probably because we instinctually know that wouldn’t be the end of it or none of the deaths seem inevitable.
Do you mean temporarily choosing the lesser evil is not a solution?
Only if there’s solution you can bring about that isn’t one of the evils.
They are not equivalent situations. More like:
Person A promises to kill 10 people. Person B promises to kill 20 people.
Only one of them will do it, and you choose who. If you refuse to choose, person B will do it. What do you do?
Lemmy.ml nonstop trying to get Trump elected
Grow the fuck up.
Removed, you truncated the quote which takes it out of context.
From the VP debate:
cbsnews.com/…/full-vp-debate-transcript-walz-vanc…
“But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. You saw it experienced today, where, along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack. But what’s fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.”
That’s fucked up, but I’m glad it’s stiffening the peacekeepers’ resolve. The IDF isn’t gonna stop shooting at UN personnel, and a lot of company size units of jumpy conscripts are gonna have some bad days before this is over. From un.org:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e4626a44-306f-491f-9956-415998ff5409.jpeg">
en.wikipedia.org/…/NATO_Joint_Military_Symbology
Spain, France, and Italy would piss off the EU. Korea and Poland are going to be a uhhh … learning opportunity for the IDF.
Szymon the automatic rifleman has a right to defend himself
Every soldier has the right to defend themselves and others. Anyways that’s when my artillery support started hitting that one guy behind the rock.
Germany keeps on sucking Netanyahu’s dick and will always block any concerted action at the EU level.
I’m not familiar with how the EU actually works, does each country get a veto for things like sanctions? Because Germany might just get outvoted if Israel keeps going down this line.
In some things there is veto power and in some a majority vote (by states and by population) suffices.
Whilst I do not know for certain in which category Sanctions fall, I would expect that given the implications at a geostrategical and trade level of them there’s a veto power there. Also I vaguelly remember Hungary blocking sanctions against Russia coordinates at the EU level and countries having to go around it and organising their own sanctions, which would mean it’s a vote were there is a veto.
Even beyond that, German is certain to lobby and even bully (were it can) other EU countries so that they don’t sanction Israel.
Ah yeah, I remember the Hungary thing too so also, it’ll be a veto.
Most big EU decisions must be agreed to by all members. If even one country disagrees, nothing happens, which is why they’re so pissed about Hungary blocking everything.
The European Parliament is more democratic, but I think they can just do legislation, not compel the use of force or anything like that.
The UN should shoot back.
Apparently the paperwork to let them shoot is insane.
isreal fucking around a WHOLE LOT these days, pretty soon they’re gonna find out.
Not as long as papa US keeps protecting these douchebags
And no matter which candidate you get, they’ll stay the same.
So what does that mean and what does the American do about it? Because we are fractured lazy and overworked and many of us are got by fake news because an abusive system abused us and then neglected us now we’re all shitheads
Buy a gun, join a lefty militia, train up, then protest with your guns in large groups. If that method can convince Republicans to vote in favor of gun control to stop black people from having agency, it can work with anything you want to be changed as well.
People always respond to threats of violence, with fear or with retaliation.
If you raise any force of violence enough then government will come down on you regardless of who you are from Waco to MOVE. A government just has a monopoly on violence and the US has the monopoly of violence in the world
I’m not saying give up but the idea of the armed overthrow is not the best idea. Especially at this stage in the issue
I think hundreds of thousands or even millions of citizens engaging in armed protest would be impossible to address the way the Koresh or Ruby Ridge scenarios were handled.
Their response would need to be smart and nuanced and would need to address core issues to really make it stop.
I didn’t say overthrow, I said protest.
Where did you get the idea that armed protests always result in that?
Armed protests simply prevents cops and authorities to quell your voice. Then you can have a seat at their table and eat their lunch, so to speak.
? I think you may be responding to the wrong comment.
You are correct and smart. I am a silly person and indeed replied to the wrong person.
Lol thank you, but I am definitely not smart!
Let’s hope “Mama U.S.” flips the script immediately upon inauguration. I have heard she does not agree with Biden’s position on this at all, but needs to play along for appearances and for that critical AIPAC money.
That AIPAC money is only critical in election season, which ends soon. I’ll cross my fingers, but I won’t hold my breath.
That’s literally cope 101. She has shown on multiple occasions that she doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians. She is as pro genocide as Biden is.
Kamala? The one promising to make the US the most lethal armed forces in the world? She’s going to rein in Israel?
Same level of delusion as the people who thought Trump would drain the swamp
Unfortunately even if she wins and wanted to restrain Israel, AIPAC money could still be spent against Democrats in the midterms.
Support for Israel is going to have to become much more unpopular with voters before we see real action from politicians.
This article describes how Israel’s favorability has gone down globally but in the US it had only taken a very small hit last year. As the genocide as progressed and the war widened, maybe that favorability has taken more of a hit.
Time Israel’s Favorability
AIPAC has been messing in democratic primaires to make sure nobody critical of Israel is left in Congress. Even if electeds aren’t actual Zionist believers, they’ll go along to keep their jobs.
I think you are mistaking which one in this relationship calls the other “daddy.”
They will not find out. You are delusional.
The IDF is filled with religious fanatical nutters and they knows exactly where the Irish command have positioned their troops. Someone decided to take revenge because the Irish are against the entire shit show in Gaza and West Bank.
This is highly likely. They also shot at and injured Indonesian peacekeepers since Indonesia is also one of other country that is vocal against Israel.
I didn’t realize there were UN peacekeepers in Southern Lebanon. This article has a good overview of the history of that:
UN Peacekeepers in Southern Lebanon