If it makes you feel better, it’s not originally from a British rag, it’s actually from White House mouthpiece Barak Ravid at Axios! The same “reporter” who’s been edging the public for months about an Iran agreement being imminent to help manipulate the market every few days. So I’m sure it’s true :)
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 11:37
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When you’re so deep in your dementia, your delusions go full circle.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Jun 10:59
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Every so often, the man does or says something I wholeheartedly agree with.
It’s an unsourced anonymous leak that he can deny while giving crumbs of hope to the anti-Israel right that’s been starting to turn on him.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
on 02 Jun 11:09
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He was told that Iran would fold quickly and it would be an easy win for his ego. It’s not happening, and even Fox News can’t sugarcoat the fuel crisis for months and months.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 11:55
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Now he’s looking at Cuba for his ‘win’.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club
on 02 Jun 12:39
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Cuba was being planned well before the Iran War started.
It also directly goes to politicians through AIPAC
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
on 02 Jun 11:34
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Sure, just like Biden every week.
What’s more likely? Both presidents opposed Israel’s actions, but decided to continue to illegally give them weapons and money for some fucking reason, or they supported them, but they have PR people capable of reading polls?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 11:40
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Are you seriously trying to equate Trump with Biden?
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 11:48
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Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
on 02 Jun 11:51
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I am describing the same mechanism that both of their staffs used; unsourced reports indicating politician really wants <popular thing>, despite evidence to the contrary.
Trump does not oppose the genocide any more than Biden did, evidenced by giving them the weapons and diplomatic support, and directly attacking countries for interfering.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 12:18
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Nah
You’re disingenuous
Trump is a case of the Netanyahu tail wagging the orange dog
Israel is leveraging the Tangerine Toddler, through a combination of BiBi having serious dirt on him through Epstein and promising him wealth due to his filthy son-in-law and the daughter he molested
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
on 02 Jun 12:21
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Is it really that hard to believe the pedophile-in-chief, like most people in the epstein files, supports the settler-colonial state for ideological reasons and didn’t need to be blackmailed?
There is no such a thing as Netenyahu controlling the USA or Trump. Trump is a scum who want to enrich himself and his family with wars and conflicts and also serve american imperialist interests in the middle east
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 12:47
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I’m older than many here
Old enough to remember when things happened, and occasionally Mossad would be implicated, but what had happened always served US interests somehow
The ledger is long, and has been filling for decades, always with the understanding that those debts would be repaid
The US always ponies up when they’re going to be embarrassed, but they bit off more than they can chew, and their attack dog slipped the leash decades ago
Israel and Zionists have always been experts at weaponised victimhood
You should be old enough to know that Netanyahu was a hardliner and opposed the Oslo accords although those accords was beneficials to Israel. It allowed them to colonize more swiftly and discretely Palestinian land. Netanyahu wanted to keep the fast way of colonization but American forced him to accept.
There is many other time where Israel listened to the USA because there was real threat if withdrawing some kind of support .
Israel withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip. when President Eisenhower threatened to cut off all U.S. aid and support, and considered imposing UN sanctions.
In 1991 Israel refrained from direct military retaliation to Saddam launching missiles to keep the to avoid undermining the U.S.-led Arab coalition against Saddam Intact.
The middle east was the most important region for empires for centuries . The USA control of the straight and trade routes would be an amazing leverage against Russia and China. That’s why the USA also backed Saudi Arabia proxies in Yemen to control beb el mendeb . The war on Iran was definitely serving both Israel and the USA imperialist interests not national interests . The failure to win a war do not mean the bad intentions was not there.
If Israel control the USA then there would be no negotiations with Iran. The full scale war will continue. If trump was blackmailed he would easily give the west bank officially to Israel like he did with the Golan heights .
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 13:48
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You’re so close
I lived through all of that
I laughed when the US went into Iraq when Kuwait slant drilled into their fields and were surprised to be shot at with US weapons
And again when Dubya did what his handlers told him to do
It’s not that Israel controls the US.
They’ve been a useful tool for the West, including the UK for decades, but the power balance changed
The Mossad did dirty work for the West, not just 'Murica
But, Israel might be cruel and vicious, but they were clever, and they did what they did to ensure that they would always enjoy the support of the governments they did the things for that they could not do themselves
That has now shifted, and sharply
Between Kushner, Epstein and others, it’s not about leveraging 'Murica, it’s about leveraging Trump
And the whole world will have to deal with it, unfortunately
Americans fund aipac, American politicians willingly accept their money, American voters Willingly voted for aipac candidates for decades so yeah again the USA control Israel
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Jun 12:37
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Yes. Stop acing like a fucking cultist. Numbers do not lie
During Biden
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged
88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
Biden lied about working on cease fire. He blamed hamas for the failure when the issue ws Israel. Both Trump and Biden bypassed thr congress teice to give more weapons to the terrorist state. The numbers of killed Palestinian was also higher during Biden
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Jun 13:00
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In this instance, it’s a perfectly reasonable comparison. Both Trump and Biden are/were deeply connected to the Zionist project of Israel and support it unequivocally.
To try and somewhat mitigate backlash from voters, they leak or hint that they are furious with Netanyahu behind the scenes but nevertheless continue to approve a never-ending stream of money and military equipment to Israel to continue their destruction, mass killing and ethnic cleansing.
ProfessorScience@lemmy.world
on 02 Jun 11:48
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We’ll if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black…
theacharnian@lemmy.ca
on 02 Jun 12:03
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How about instead of Cuba you invade Israel Mr President? Now that would be something no president world ever have done. You would surely go down in history! I’m sure we can also come up with some kind of biggest penis peace prize for you.
One hundred thousand toddlers pointing to a lion, rhino, camel
“Lian… Whino… Camal!”
“Oh my god! This is the test Obama and Biden couldn’t do. My kid will be President some day!”
Yeah, Benny is crazy. Literally everyone with basic cognitivity knows this. And for quite a long time. Those that support him are smart enough to have a money play from it and with their own disorders allowing for it, mainly psychopathy.
But, instead… “That is indeed a camel, sir. Einstein would blush… No, sir, you aren’t related to him and- … oh, of course, sir… Well, now we know who came up with camels as the name. Uncle Einstein’s finest work, sir.”
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Jun 14:26
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Wow, a rare moment of clarity for Trump?
It’s an unsourced alleged phone call from a British rag. I’m really not holding my breath on this one
If it makes you feel better, it’s not originally from a British rag, it’s actually from White House mouthpiece Barak Ravid at Axios! The same “reporter” who’s been edging the public for months about an Iran agreement being imminent to help manipulate the market every few days. So I’m sure it’s true :)
When you’re so deep in your dementia, your delusions go full circle.
Every so often, the man does or says something I wholeheartedly agree with.
This is one of those rare times.
Stopped clocks and all that.
It’s an unsourced anonymous leak that he can deny while giving crumbs of hope to the anti-Israel right that’s been starting to turn on him.
He was told that Iran would fold quickly and it would be an easy win for his ego. It’s not happening, and even Fox News can’t sugarcoat the fuel crisis for months and months.
Now he’s looking at Cuba for his ‘win’.
Cuba was being planned well before the Iran War started.
You thought gas prices are bad? Just wait until sugarcane sugar skyrockets!
We don’t use any of that commie sugar in the US, all corn squeezins baybee
Huh? Cuba isn’t much of a sugar cane producer. Not even one of the top 10. The US makes more. Brazil makes the most by a lot.
Same thing happened with Iraq.
We were told it would be a quick win, a month at most, and wouldn’t cost more than a billion dollars.
L—O—L
Both Democrats and Republicans support this war, if not in word than in deed, and I fully expect it to last for years.
Might as well decimate the israelis Mr. Trump
And it won’t matter as long as Israel receives money and support from the US.
And I doubt the US will ever stop.
Isreal is the best way to funnel billions of dollars back to American defense companies, of course it’s not going to stop.
Israel*
It also directly goes to politicians through AIPAC
Sure, just like Biden every week.
What’s more likely? Both presidents opposed Israel’s actions, but decided to continue to illegally give them weapons and money for some fucking reason, or they supported them, but they have PR people capable of reading polls?
Are you seriously trying to equate Trump with Biden?
Dude walked backwards into gay bar, lol
I can walk
straightextremely gayly into the gay bar, thank you.And your personality is the best thing you have to ensure nobody fuck you and gives you anything communicable
wtf?
I am describing the same mechanism that both of their staffs used; unsourced reports indicating politician really wants <popular thing>, despite evidence to the contrary.
Trump does not oppose the genocide any more than Biden did, evidenced by giving them the weapons and diplomatic support, and directly attacking countries for interfering.
Nah
You’re disingenuous
Trump is a case of the Netanyahu tail wagging the orange dog
Israel is leveraging the Tangerine Toddler, through a combination of BiBi having serious dirt on him through Epstein and promising him wealth due to his filthy son-in-law and the daughter he molested
Is it really that hard to believe the pedophile-in-chief, like most people in the epstein files, supports the settler-colonial state for ideological reasons and didn’t need to be blackmailed?
There is no such a thing as Netenyahu controlling the USA or Trump. Trump is a scum who want to enrich himself and his family with wars and conflicts and also serve american imperialist interests in the middle east
I’m older than many here
Old enough to remember when things happened, and occasionally Mossad would be implicated, but what had happened always served US interests somehow
The ledger is long, and has been filling for decades, always with the understanding that those debts would be repaid
The US always ponies up when they’re going to be embarrassed, but they bit off more than they can chew, and their attack dog slipped the leash decades ago
Israel and Zionists have always been experts at weaponised victimhood
You should be old enough to know that Netanyahu was a hardliner and opposed the Oslo accords although those accords was beneficials to Israel. It allowed them to colonize more swiftly and discretely Palestinian land. Netanyahu wanted to keep the fast way of colonization but American forced him to accept.
There is many other time where Israel listened to the USA because there was real threat if withdrawing some kind of support .
Israel withdrew from the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip. when President Eisenhower threatened to cut off all U.S. aid and support, and considered imposing UN sanctions.
In 1991 Israel refrained from direct military retaliation to Saddam launching missiles to keep the to avoid undermining the U.S.-led Arab coalition against Saddam Intact.
The middle east was the most important region for empires for centuries . The USA control of the straight and trade routes would be an amazing leverage against Russia and China. That’s why the USA also backed Saudi Arabia proxies in Yemen to control beb el mendeb . The war on Iran was definitely serving both Israel and the USA imperialist interests not national interests . The failure to win a war do not mean the bad intentions was not there.
If Israel control the USA then there would be no negotiations with Iran. The full scale war will continue. If trump was blackmailed he would easily give the west bank officially to Israel like he did with the Golan heights .
You’re so close
I lived through all of that
I laughed when the US went into Iraq when Kuwait slant drilled into their fields and were surprised to be shot at with US weapons
And again when Dubya did what his handlers told him to do
It’s not that Israel controls the US.
They’ve been a useful tool for the West, including the UK for decades, but the power balance changed
The Mossad did dirty work for the West, not just 'Murica
But, Israel might be cruel and vicious, but they were clever, and they did what they did to ensure that they would always enjoy the support of the governments they did the things for that they could not do themselves
That has now shifted, and sharply
Between Kushner, Epstein and others, it’s not about leveraging 'Murica, it’s about leveraging Trump
And the whole world will have to deal with it, unfortunately
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e13d0d33-d58b-4bbc-825b-92530347971d.jpeg"><img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b30c43fa-5f48-44b9-ace2-b590983ccbd7.jpeg">Lol stay asleep
Israelites are the ideological enemy of everything you want.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f41bf3c6-86a4-46c1-90f1-ae28f525a59a.jpeg">
Americans fund aipac, American politicians willingly accept their money, American voters Willingly voted for aipac candidates for decades so yeah again the USA control Israel
Yes. Stop acing like a fucking cultist. Numbers do not lie
During Biden
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
Biden lied about working on cease fire. He blamed hamas for the failure when the issue ws Israel. Both Trump and Biden bypassed thr congress teice to give more weapons to the terrorist state. The numbers of killed Palestinian was also higher during Biden
Welcome to Lemmy 🙄
In this instance, it’s a perfectly reasonable comparison. Both Trump and Biden are/were deeply connected to the Zionist project of Israel and support it unequivocally.
To try and somewhat mitigate backlash from voters, they leak or hint that they are furious with Netanyahu behind the scenes but nevertheless continue to approve a never-ending stream of money and military equipment to Israel to continue their destruction, mass killing and ethnic cleansing.
We’ll if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black…
How about instead of Cuba you invade Israel Mr President? Now that would be something no president world ever have done. You would surely go down in history! I’m sure we can also come up with some kind of biggest penis peace prize for you.
And what, make it the 51st state? ☹️
👐the best state👐
Huh. I guess even Trump can’t be wrong all the time.
Broken clock…
Blind squirrel…
The last time there was peace in the Middle East was with Mandatory Palestine, and it was a weak peace.
Surely now will be the time the US decides it’s bad that they’re doing genicide. We’re totally not accomplices, it’s this guy that’s wacko.
One hundred thousand toddlers pointing to a lion, rhino, camel
“Lian… Whino… Camal!”
“Oh my god! This is the test Obama and Biden couldn’t do. My kid will be President some day!”
Yeah, Benny is crazy. Literally everyone with basic cognitivity knows this. And for quite a long time. Those that support him are smart enough to have a money play from it and with their own disorders allowing for it, mainly psychopathy.
But, instead… “That is indeed a camel, sir. Einstein would blush… No, sir, you aren’t related to him and- … oh, of course, sir… Well, now we know who came up with camels as the name. Uncle Einstein’s finest work, sir.”
Gee…I wonder why everyone hates Isreal?
It’s a goddamn mystery, ain’t it?
For once, he’s not wrong. Though the exact same could be said about him & USA.
This article is thinly veiled pro-trump propoganda.
He sniffed a baboon’s ass, then got mad that he got shit on his nose.