Orban tells EU leaders Trump would act as "Russia-Ukraine peace broker" (www.straitstimes.com)
from cyd@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 10:17
https://lemmy.world/post/17614336

He claims Trump would act immediately upon winning the election, before taking office. Which sounds legally dubious, but not that that’s ever stopped Trump…

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toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl on 16 Jul 2024 10:26 next collapse

Ugh… Ukraine is screwed, huh. We’re all screwed, perhaps.

TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 16 Jul 2024 10:51 collapse

If Trump wins the entire world is fucked.

teamevil@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 12:19 collapse

Why isn’t this being run on a real news outlet‽

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 16 Jul 2024 13:00 collapse

Because “real” news outlets prioritize their owners’ short-term profits over the survival of humanity.

paddirn@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 10:30 next collapse

Ahh right, because the guy who was literally impeached for trying to get Zelensky to fabricate a story about his political opponent and who is beholden to Ukraine’s enemy would be an honest peace broker.

anlumo@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 11:13 collapse

I’m not seeing any reference to Trump being honest in the article.

It’s fairly trivial for the US president to end the conflict. Stop supplying weapons to Ukraine and send them to Russia instead, and it’d be over in a week. This is something I fully believe Trump could do.

manucode@infosec.pub on 16 Jul 2024 11:20 next collapse

I’m not sure if you could call Russian occupation ‘peace’ in Ukraine

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 12:20 next collapse

It will give Russia another 6-10 years before they do it again just like last time.

illi@lemm.ee on 16 Jul 2024 12:28 collapse

This is exactly what these people mean when they say “peace”

Valmond@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 13:41 collapse

That would not bring peace though. Russia would just start with the next country/countries.

Crashumbc@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 19:01 collapse

Most likely, as a condition of the “peace”. Russia would promise not to invade anywhere for a few years to make Trump look good…

Valmond@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 22:02 collapse

So when did russia not break any promise they gave? They already promised to not invade Ukraine!

It’s just bs.

RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com on 16 Jul 2024 10:36 next collapse

Much like Hitler. Such a good guy

Foni@lemm.ee on 16 Jul 2024 10:35 next collapse

I would pay to be able to see the faces of the EU leaders while telling them such nonsense.

Varyk@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jul 2024 10:46 next collapse

Trump is in favor of Russia annexing Ukraine.

Peace this does not make.

dactylotheca@suppo.fi on 16 Jul 2024 11:36 next collapse

So is Orbán, and what is probably a majority of conservatives at least if they’re being honest (which doesn’t happen too often)

nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Jul 2024 12:00 collapse

They don’t care what happens as long as Putin is happy.

LeminalSpajxe@leminal.space on 16 Jul 2024 13:22 next collapse

Learn English you monkey 🐵🐒

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jul 2024 16:22 collapse

“They would make a desert and call it peace”

ccunning@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 11:02 next collapse

Ok, but the world isn’t looking for the kind of peace Trump would broker.

What the world wants is for Russia to get the fuck out of Ukraine.

_______Owl_______@lemmy.wtf on 16 Jul 2024 12:51 next collapse

What the world wants is for Russia to get the fuck out of Ukraine

What we truly desire is for the war to end. The ongoing conflict is not only causing immense human suffering but also placing a significant economic burden on everyone involved. Peace is the path we should all strive for

Pilferjinx@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 17:19 collapse

What you desire is for Ukraine to lay down and die. That’s not peace

HuiiiifHawaaai@lemmy.wtf on 16 Jul 2024 13:05 collapse

What we truly desire is for the war to end. The ongoing conflict is not only causing immense human suffering but also placing a significant economic burden on everyone involved. Peace is the path we should all strive for.

ccunning@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 13:09 collapse

It’s weird how this comment is almost identical to the one the mods already removed

Anyway, the simplest solution for peace is for Putin to fuck off out of Ukraine.

HuiiiifHawaaai@lemmy.wtf on 16 Jul 2024 13:11 next collapse

Ye it’s me. I have to make new accounts because @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world is a power holder mod

HuiiiifHawaaai@lemmy.wtf on 16 Jul 2024 13:13 collapse

The simplest solution is to stop selling weapons tho

Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jul 2024 16:04 collapse

Ah yes… Disarm the people fighting to defend themselves against unprovoked aggression. Clearly the good and moral choice.

920tl77nnk@r.nf on 16 Jul 2024 18:02 collapse

Nobody said it was good. But it’s better than burning money into a lost cause

ccunning@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 19:33 next collapse

You’re as persistent at lost causes as Putin is…

Enoril@jlai.lu on 16 Jul 2024 22:07 next collapse

I have no issue giving money to people defending themself from an agressor.

Do you?

Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works on 17 Jul 2024 13:44 collapse

I’m loving how your attitude to Ukraine flipped from “We all just want peace and wuv UwU” to “Fuck off you deadbeat moochers, get a real economy!” in the space of literally a single comment.

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 11:15 next collapse

EU is such a joke for letting Hungary have presidency

einkorn@feddit.org on 16 Jul 2024 12:45 next collapse

It’s a rotating system, so it wasn’t a deliberate decision.

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 13:00 next collapse

I’m aware of that, still shouldn’t have been allowed, they shouldn’t even be in the EU to begin with.

einkorn@feddit.org on 16 Jul 2024 13:51 collapse

Before Orban and his cronies took over, Hungary was on an upwards trajectory in terms of rule of law, personal liberties. In fact Orban himself started politics with a pretty progressive programm. Guess he got bought out along the way though and like the cash a little bit too much.

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LeminalSpajxe@leminal.space on 16 Jul 2024 13:21 collapse

At least EU leaders don’t have dementia

HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 11:46 next collapse

My downstairs neighbour is super right wing, told me he is as far right as you can go, full on conservative voter in the UK.

The other day he told me Trump is the only one that is going to be able to save the world and under his rule, the Russia Ukraine war would have never happened.

Told him Trump is in bed with Russia and would have just allowed them to take over, he said no and Trump siding with Russia would benefit the entire world’s economy.

Straight face said this to me, man has brain-rot.

Audacious@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jul 2024 13:28 next collapse

I would have asked how does a country start a war invading itself, not really expecting anything intelligent response, but let’s him know real fast I think he’s insane, hopefully. Then actually treat him like a snot-noise kid, brushing him off.

Prior_Industry@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 16:44 collapse

What’s russian bringing to the world economy other than cheap oil? That you can source from multiple other less dickish countries.

Crashumbc@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 19:03 collapse

Which would also hurt the economy, given that the US is pumping more oil than ever…

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 12:39 next collapse

Trump will not be doing any of this.

Valmond@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 13:40 next collapse

“Can he also protect the virginity of my daughters” asked the man.

ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jul 2024 14:42 collapse

Sure can… if he takes it from them he’s protecting it, right? /s

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 16 Jul 2024 15:10 next collapse

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werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 15:37 next collapse

…and now that all Ukrainians are safe here in Gaza, how about a round of applause for our earless leader Ronald Ray Rump!..oh donald like the duck?..

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Jul 2024 17:53 next collapse

“Russia can take over Ukraine.

See no more war. Told you I’d end it”

uebquauntbez@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 18:15 collapse

You missed the lines: ‘Great deal, greatest of all deals, me dealt, great. Yes, great deal. No other president to be able to make this deal.’

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Jul 2024 19:01 collapse

Beautiful deal. The Best.

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Zomg@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 19:50 collapse

…what?

MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world on 16 Jul 2024 20:30 collapse

What a cunt.