How about World Cup coverage?
from jordanlund@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 30 May 05:47
https://lemmy.world/post/47525345

Just want a quick gauge of what the group feels about World Cup Coverage before it’s upon us.

I get the overall feeling that Lemmy isn’t really down for sports coverage in general and there’s a large dislike of Fifa in particular.

But if you all want round by round coverage, I’ll put up a sticky.

If you say “Not World News”, I’ll yank any article that gets posted and re-direct them to some sports related community.

Personally, I don’t think any sports is “News”, but hey, that’s just me!

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wiccan2@thelemmy.club on 30 May 06:11 next collapse

Sports isn’t News, there’s specific communities that can handle it, we don’t need it here too.

CombatWombat@feddit.online on 30 May 06:50 collapse

Some sports is news, but most sports is not. Scores aren’t, trivially, but I’d say things like land use policy for stadia and immigration policy changes for international tournaments are. It’s a fine line and I think it’s wise to err on the side of keeping the sports separate, like in !worldcup@lemmy.world , when it’s marginal.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 30 May 11:07 collapse

It’s not a fine line. If the “news” are about normal things in the sport (scores, who plays what, who changes team, …) they go to the sports section. If they aren’t normal, they can go to news.

baatliwala@lemmy.world on 30 May 06:24 next collapse

I’m a football fan and wouldn’t want it with just 2 exceptions:

  • Winner of WC
  • A newsworthy non-sport related event happens at any game

There’s a footy community at sopuli.xyz/c/football, let’s all use that eh? 😁

zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works on 30 May 07:04 next collapse

As a non sports fan I would also like to know exceptional sport related events like: Brazil 1:7 Germany. And maybe general status of competition like who made it to semi-finals and finals.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 30 May 11:09 collapse

All that for to sports. If it was Brazil 1:7 Germany because ICE sent the Brazilian team to El Salvador, that goes to “news”.

zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works on 30 May 13:27 collapse

Sport news is news. However most sport news is not significant enough to make “front page”. What would make front page are some records etc. World cup is really important event. For humanity not just for sport fans. It is on pair with olimpic games. While I do not want to know who won in some random sport I do want to know if some significant records were broken or other significant stuff happenig.

The same goes for celebrities. I do not wan to know what happened to kardashians. But I want to know if Melania Trump died of cancer.

I do not think “news” community is meant only of “geopolitical news”.

Flower@sh.itjust.works on 30 May 08:20 collapse

newsworthy non-sport related event

I need to know if the organisation of the event is such a cluster cluck as they say it’s going to be.

CombatWombat@feddit.online on 30 May 06:47 next collapse

Personally, I’d prefer to keep most coverage quarantined to !worldcup@lemmy.world but I think I’m in the minority here

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 30 May 08:58 collapse

Yeah, I think re-directing any posts over there is going to be the move unless something actually newsworthy happens.

abbadon420@sh.itjust.works on 30 May 07:10 next collapse

I think a sticky would be fine. It is “world news”, but I don’t think it is a very popular topic here. Than you can relegate all WC posts to that sticky.

TheOctonaut@piefed.zip on 30 May 08:52 next collapse

Americans seem to very directly associate the organisation FIFA with the sport of soccer and the World Cup itself.

I think it comes from the literal ownership of sports leagues and sports teams by corporations like MLB, NFL, NHL.

FIFA doesn’t own soccer, it doesn’t own any of the teams, and it barely owns the World Cup. It is tolerated as a necessary evil that someone has to do the organising, but historically for example, major nations have shrugged and ignored FIFA as inconsequential.

Sport in general is just vastly different on an emotional and political level in other countries. The immediate dismissal of “sports isn’t news” and “sports shouldn’t be political” very obviously shows who has grown up in an environment where sport is primarily a backdrop over which corporate sponsorships and endorsements are laid.

The politics associated with sports isn’t always good or nuanced but it is there.

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 30 May 10:02 collapse

I have decidedly not “grown up in an environment where sport is primarily a backdrop over which corporate sponsorships and endorsements are laid” and sports isn’t news.

TheOctonaut@piefed.zip on 30 May 11:27 collapse

You are aware that Bayern have been nicknamed “Planet Hollywood” since the 90s and your current richest club is Red Bull, right?

Lumidaub@feddit.org on 30 May 11:31 collapse

I resent the notion that I am somehow associated with Bayern other than happening to be in the same very general geographical area.

Edit: also, I just looked up “club red bull” because my utter lack of interest in the footie has until now saved me from knowing what you’re talking about.

Zahtu@feddit.org on 30 May 10:43 next collapse

not world news, there’s specific communities for that. And speaking of that particular cup, coming from a soccer obsessed country, there’s been zero excitement in our local news either.

Vanth@reddthat.com on 30 May 12:11 collapse

I very much like sports. They belong in sports-specific communities though, not news communities, unless they’re actually making news. Like how FIFA is under investigation for fixing ticket prices. Or how the DOJ launched an investigation into FIFA for bribery but were dismissed by a judge saying bribery isn’t a priority of Trump’s administration. Or how Mexico will host the Iranian team because the US won’t let them stay overnight.

Even those more actual-news stories belong in world cup communities for now due to the volume of stories coming out. I would strongly prefer this community not become 25%+ world cup posts for the duration of the cup.