Macron to EU colleagues: Stop buying American, buy European
(www.politico.eu)
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I am an American and agree with this headline. Don’t cave in to the bully.
In case you agree but don’t know where to start: !buyeuropean@feddit.uk !buyfromeu@feddit.org
The French have been avoiding dependence on Americans since de Gualle. The only reason the entire country hasn’t died of schadenfreude poisoning is because “schadenfreude” is a German word.
For anyone like me:
schadenfreude /shäd′n-froi″də/ noun
You’re what makes the fediverse great
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Hey @EU: don’t forget to buy Canadian. We have sweet sweet sugary beavers….and pornhub.
And sometimes those beavers are on PornHub.
I don’t get it. Let me do a quick search…WWOOOWW!
and if you reeeeaaaaallllyyyyy like beavers, there’s a lil site called e621 I hear has got you covered…
Facts 👆
Pornhub is Canadia? TIL.
I been supporting you guys for so long.
Can you please internally push to enter the EU in record time?
Thank you. Your bacon is better.
Mindgeek have been linked to multiple affair of human trafifcking, non consensual actress who acted under duress and not taking video down when requested by the said actresses
I guess it would be nice if you supplanted that by economic policy, wouldn’t it.
As an American, who the fuck even has to be told that, by now? If you know what’s going on, you have an obligation to make American corporations shriek their fucking heads off as they hemorrhage profits.
As an American:
FFS STOP BUYING AMERICAN!
I think it’s a bit hard for most people when there’s such an abundance of goods and services and nobody really knows where everything comes from.
You don’t have to be perfect, just try your best to avoid anything made in the US. If it’s unavoidable, don’t stress it, just buy the absolute least you can get away with, while looking for EU alternatives.
I’m just saying how most of the people I meet outside are. They don’t have these lists handed to them. They only see some Tesla stuff on the news.
We don’t need everyone to be perfect. We just need a lot of people, each making them earn a little bit less.
It’s true, just a couple of changes reflects on their books. One “this instead of that” per person goes a long way.
Or Canadian alternatives! Those are good too!
It wasn’t until all this kicked off that I learned just how many companies that I thought were European were in fact owned by American conglomerates.
Which makes MAGA’s “the world is taking advantage of America” rhetoric all the more infuriatingly hypocritical. You spent decades using the strong dollar to go on a massive global shopping trip buying up every other country’s companies, and are now crying foul that those companies you own are supplying their local markets instead of importing from the US?
Most people?
I think sometimes people on here forget we have been filtered out of general society first by joining Reddit and then by moving here we are sort of in a liberal echo chamber.
When I interact with regular friends IRL, they don’t care and they really don’t understand what’s happening with the world. So it’s a good thing Macron is sayin this as it spreads the message.
I am in even worse echo chamber, because almost all of my friends are queers, computer scientists or uni students.
I could not have said it better myself!
This and the subreddits I frequent are dangerously filled with people whom I agree with and that agree with me. Back in the “good” days when Forums were all the rage I was exposed to a lot more variety and got to talk to people who were worth having a discussion with. Too bad I was a young idiot and the forum I spent the most time on was paintball forum. (TechPB if anyone’s curious)
Also France: liberation.fr/…/non-au-transfert-des-donnees-de-s…
Google translation of a few paragraphs
You have a one in seven chance of seeing your health data migrate to the Microsoft cloud and fall under American law, and therefore under the good will of its president, Donald Trump, and the Doge’s boss, Elon Musk. So, happy? Yes, you may be among the 10 million French people randomly selected as part of the Darwin EU project, coordinated by the European Medicines Agency and led, in France, by the public interest group “Plateforme des données de santé,” better known as the Health Data Hub (HDH). In a decision published on March 11, the French National Commission for Information Technology and Civil Liberties (CNIL) gave the HDH the green light to select a random sample of 10 million people representative in terms of age, sex, and department of residence from the main database of the National Health Data System, the vast majority of which is issued by the National Health Insurance Fund. The objectives are certainly laudable: to determine the prevalence and incidence of drug and vaccine use in France using a standardized methodology. Less laudable, the host chosen to store this data is Microsoft. In 2020, as part of a summary procedure, we already warned that sensitive health data of the French population hosted by Microsoft fell under American law due to the company’s domicile in the United States. In October 2020, the Council of State recognized this risk of extraterritoriality of American law. A month later, in a letter dated November 19, 2020, the Minister of Health, Olivier Véran, urged the government to completely eliminate, within two years, the risks posed by the hosting of health data by an American operator. Five years have passed: the technical solution is still Microsoft. The US authorities, now represented by Donald Trump, will therefore be able to issue subpoenas to Microsoft to disclose the health data of 10 million French citizens. In its opinion of March 11, 2025, the CNIL (French Data Protection Authority) warns of the risk of “disclosure to foreign powers of data stored with a host subject to non-European law” and regrets the lack of a sovereign solution. Are the very people in government who boast of defending our country’s “sovereignty” leading us up the garden path for over five years? Hand on heart, we are told that a call for tenders is being prepared to select a European host. Words, words.
Macron is a hypocrite, all talk no action
France has a sneaker brand called Le Coq. Why would anyone buy Nike when they can show off their Le Coq is beyond me.
Is it “coke” or “cock”?
I always pronounced it cock
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhTaK4nmgI
coq = cock = rooster they are pronounced basically the same, but coq doesnt mean cock as in penis afaik
You know which one 😏
Wait Le Coq Sportif? I used to wear that as a kid then it went from the UK.
Oui
www.lecoqsportif.com/en
I love the Sporty Rooster.
Any American who sides with the EU should pack up and leave. Buy American. Die European.
They are welcome to come here. I wouldn’t wanna live in a country with someone like Trump either.
Cool. We want neither them nor you. Only the best people deserve the best place on earth.
Rofl, America is far from the best.
We are so far ahead of any other people on earth that it’s hard to even see second place. LMAO! 🇺🇸👊
Except in life expectancy, infant mortality, gdp, literacy, crime, and basically every other metric on the books. Nice try though. America is a shit hole thanks to jingoistic fucks like you!
Just wait until China or Russia comes a knocking, fool boy. You will all scurry like the cockroaches you are and beg us for help. We are the most powerful economy on earth and we have unparalleled freedoms. European countries are afraid to speak nowadays. Only a nitwit would proclaim that the EU countries come close to America in any respect whatsoever. Just because you confidently say something doesn’t make it so silly little girl. What do you have to live for anyway?
The numbers don’t lie. All that bleating while America tanks, rofl. Fear mongering about and embracing Russia at the same time. Man, the right wingers really are confused. Politically, sexually. It makes sense why they’re so mad. Anyway, you’re the first person I’ve blocked on Lemmy lol. Glad I’ll never have to see another nutbag post from the likes of you.
What would make someone one of the “best people” beside of course living in the same area as you do 🤪
Ah, well, you see, that’s just silly. Thought we could have a fun little game here but you’re a teenager
Just remember sister, if it wasn’t for American soldiers in 1940s Europe, you and yours would be goose stepping and saluting Adolf today.
Great. Maybe you can also build a great digital wall, like china, so we don’t have to interact with yanks at all?
How about a nuclear budge for you out of the planet? 🫏 🕳️
They’re welcome here. You would not be with your current mindset.
I am confused if this is a low effort trolling attempt or if people’s ideas are legitimately this easily swayed by internal propaganda.
They 100% are easily manipulated by propaganda.
Trump said Biden left the border open? They repeat it.
Trump said trans inmates are using all the taxpayer dollars? They repeat it.
Trump says immigrants are eating cats and dogs and taking over apartment complexes? They repeat it.
Every single talking point, they repeat it.
And the right wing misinformation machine is operating at its peak. They are getting news agencies to change the way they cover stories to be more in line with what the Trumpists are pushing. They are punishing dissent inside the government and in any group that deals with the government. They are pressuring social media sites to increasingly moderate progressive comments. There is an overall atmosphere that is increasing in the country l where it’s acceptable to censor free speech. Either you get in line with the Trump administration, or you become a target.
I mean I would love to immigrate to somewhere that had a functioning health care system and I actually could envision a future as a millenial where I was allowed to participate in society meaningfully and do major things like maybe have a kid.
It beats living at the end of a book where the author ran out of money to keep running the story, but the characters are still forced to get up and go to work even though there is clearly no story left for them like some forgotten nightmare.
Fuck the U.S.
Fuck America and fuck Americans that say shit like this. Signed, an American.
Bite me eurogarbage! You got zero! 💩
You ain’t no real American! 💩 🇨🇳 🇷🇺
How is Macron so based? I, as a German, used to hate on France, but they are holy based the last months
He just continued the basedness that is de Gaule with his stance that US will turn on eurpoe some day.
Why would you hate France ? We spent years building a strong friendship, sharing TV programs, sending our kids to each other, learning each other languages, making good deals… Let’s stay friends
Another German here. I love France. And arte is the best TV Programm. :) just that you don’t feel alone.
My theory: Many germans just had really Bad French teachers and honestly its not very easy to learn the spelling, so since their youth they are a bit mad at France. I personally know 3 people that had to redo a year because of bad french grades. Nothing More behind it usually. I noticed its the same with French people that had to learn German. Some love Germany now , the rest projecs their dislike of learning the language on the whole country. However, at least in my bubble, people that like France are in majority. Even those that don’t speak french love to visit.
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I guess you took it too seriously. I love all my european brothers and sisters, its just an insider joke. you surely know that internet phenomenon. But im not even able to say it anymore! May we succeed in our countries friendship as we did in the last decades ❤️
Probably because of the same reason people are hating america in this sub: nationalism.
European countries are ruled by queens. When PRC invades there’s going to be a lot of shrieking and crying! Poor little cowards.
Trolls are not welcome here. How shitty must your life be for you to not have anything better to do
Not trolling little girl. I love my country and you are ashamed of yours. That’s cut & dry.
In France macron is (or at least was) quite unpopular for what he’s doing within the country. But in foreign affairs he’s really based already for years I would say. One of the few persons who had visions for the EU before putin and now trump reminded everyone to be happy we have it.
So a bit like germany’s merkel huh?
Haha didn’t think of it so far but actually yes.
He’s the ceo of a government who spend billions on “security” and propaganda, he gets advice from professionals on how to fool the average person too lazy to remember all the evil shit macron has done in its presidency.
You only see the PR stunts. And probably only the good ones.
Jupiter, the emperor of Europe…
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Yes don’t go to Disney Land Paris. Got it.
Also everyone should stop watching US movies in the theater, just pirate American movies. Or watch Les Vengeurs made by Marvelle. Or Le Batman by Les Frères Warner.
USian here, stop buying American, buy European.
I worked for Google’s contractors doing GIS work, I have ZERO respect for US companies in terms of the value they bring to the table or the fundamental indecency with which they will try to rip you off or force you into shitty subscriptions. In the past 10 years large U.S. corporations have completely gutted what made them agile and valuable in the first place, these are just dead husks wobbling over totally termite ridden foundations, and the current economic crash completely makes sense to me for the value of these companies crashing.
There are many smart people here, I don’t want to condemn the labor of all of the good people here in the US, but we the average people of the U.S. barely get any share of the money you pay to large corporations for our labor, we don’t control our politicians, our economy, our largest corporations, our military, our immigration enforcement…the list goes on and on. DO NOT SUPPORT large US corporations that are holding our futures hostage, DO NOT BUY US PRODUCTS until the U.S. stops heading towards violence and fascism.
If there is any way you can obtain the fruits of U.S. labor without paying large U.S. corporations, now is a great time to do so.
Wouldn’t want to be accepted in Europe under any circumstance.
I personally spit on every American I see lmao. They’re mostly idiots
You spit, we shit. Eat shit You’re a peein’! 😂😂
That’s some straight up 4chan rhetoric, coupled with boomer-emojis. What an embarrassment.
'ant 'ahmaq 'ahmaq tamaman
Thats good, no one want to invite any Americuck to Europe in the first place. Stay in your country like a good boy
You do the same and we will both be happy. Eurocunts belong just where they are. Were it not for the USA you pansies would be speaking German.
Ghebt geen flauw idee wa ge over zevert manneke
jij bent een volslagen idioot
Bist du richtig in deinen kopf mein freund
ganz und gar, kleines Mädchen. Was dich betrifft, nehme ich an, nicht.
Mais non, maintenant je dois utiliser un langue d’une autre groupe :(
lema ze ham ata hoshesh shmameshlatch meyartet et dvarich?
Nah I’m all out of languages buddy, perhaps something like… kucing itu hitam 😎
My wife learning Dutch all year long, I learned one sentence from her language
Farewell little coward. You have nothing to say anyway. You live in a backward leaning continent with restrictive rights and lawless radical Islamists. Best keep silent before the constable comes knocking at your door. apakah kamu waras?
I mean, there’s a lot of stuff we could talk about, but you’re blabbering nonsense the whole time lol
You’re like an 80 iq troll, either a teenager or just really bad.
Like, c’mon buddy. Entertain me a bit more. All you’ve written is old shit from decades ago when the internet was still new
You’re the one with too much estrogen and progesterone friend. I am simply defending the honor of my country. You have nothing to offer in defense of yours.
Median net wealth of my country is 250k euros, the solidarity here is quite good.
The life expectancy here is about 5 years higher than in your country, which means we workout more, have access to better healthcare, have better environment, better food.
I’ve been working out the past 11 years with weekly deadlifts, bench press, pull ups, squats… Which literally raised my testosterone quite a bit.
I can cycle to work, you can’t. You need to sit in a boring box pressing a pedal and try not to fall asleep. When you’re late cuz of traffic you just have to work overtime or you get fired.
Medical bankruptcy isnt a thing here, congrats on your president putting tariffs on medicine, sick people love it. Edit: disgusting shithole. Every family has people with cancer.
Having walkable cities is the most normal thing to me.
I haven’t actually ever heard any reason for me to want to even visit the USA.
I probably should, sometime. But I prefer going to Asia.
You won’t even identify your nationality. You prefer the anonymity of being “European.” I can’t even begin to accurately criticize or defend an entire continent. Are you ashamed of your own country? Unless you aren’t ashamed of your homeland or afraid to reveal it I insist on knowing which country is yours. If you refuse, then just leave this discussion.
Belgium, or just look at my profile. It’s the first word there.
You Americans all say USA anyways, it’s same size as china or Europe in land size. What state are you from
Thank you for that. I know nothing bad at all about your country. I didn’t bother to look at your bio. I’m a resident of probably the most radical left wing state in the country…California. You can likely come up with hundreds of different demeaning things to say about the state and I will agree. I remain here only because I am fairly insulated from the crazy political agenda that controls the government.
I could, but I’d have to do research about it and it would be the most basic shit you’d already have heard 50 times.
You’d be weaker if decentralised into 50 countries, but you’d not randomly have 125% tariff on china.
Both centralisation and decentralisation have their benefits.
Well, good luck. It’s going to be turbulent for 4 years.
I just did some cursory reading on Belgium and you guys have a lot going on. You are per capita one of the richest countries. You have one of the lowest crime rates in Europe. While your Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and expression there are a number of constraints that we don’t have. I’m not saying that is a bad thing. I wouldn’t know what it is like to live under a Constitutional Monarchy. I will say one thing, the tariff imposed on China was far from random. It was very strategic and given the PRC current economic situation and their reliance on the American consumers it won’t be long before they will be forced to make a deal.
Good luck to you also. It’s satisfying to exchange ideas with a level headed person from the opposite side of the world.
The monarchy is basically a cheerleader group, they are symbolic. The leader of the country is the prime minister, currently Bart De Wever.
For the EU it doesn’t matter that trump puts 20% tariffs, as long as china has higher tariffs. China sells to us, we manufacture it further, we sell it to the USA.
It doesn’t even matter that much, you folks barely have any VAT on your products. These tariffs will be a discriminatory VAT.
It’s going to hurt a lot in the short term. This is a policy that requires a steady leadership like china has. I don’t believe the USA has the structure for that. In the next elections it will be a landslide victory for the democrats. Too much chaos and uncertainty, looks like child’s play to win such an election.
Thanks for sharing. I have only one contention with what you have to say and that’s the ridiculous assertion that the Democrats will win in a landslide because of Trump’s ingenious tariff policy. Maak je een grapje? The Democrats have committed suicide and have less power than your King Philippe has. They have drifted so far left that they are a joke in terms of national politics. In the eyes of a majority of Americans, Trump rules and his popularity rises daily. Trump is making history with the imposition of tariffs on our trading partners. It is a brilliant move destined to level the playing field and bring manufacturing back home to the USA.
The Republican Party holds all the power. The presidency and both houses of Congress are dominated by the party. The complete and utter failure of the last four years and the corruption, incompetence and illegality of the Democrats has crushed them like a finished cigarette.
They are socially leftist but economically not.
Stocks did quite well under Biden, so I don’t see an issue. Bottom 50% of the population gained a larger percentage of total wealth.
Why would you even want a manufacturing job? We’re paying people without education to do that. We’re paying their living costs, which is far cheaper. Then import it cheaply.
I’m only interested in the difficult jobs. Engineers never had an issue getting a job.
My mate applying for an Amazon job for minimum wage, like what. He’s wasting all his opportunity. I never worked for a minimum wage job, never will.
Anyways, I made good profit on trump’s market crash. Today’s a good day
As an American I try not to buy American
Coming from this authoritarian idiot this is straight nationalist propaganda. Don’t buy from evil corporation including french ones.
As a dude in a red state don’t buy jack shit from here. The MAGA needs to suffer.
Where do you buy your panties and your douche supplies?
Macron’s government to every administration and projects : Keep buying MS Azure, Google Cloud, and AWS, don’t look at all the providers in Europe (and France).
I say if America wants to go it alone the rest of the world should let them.