US expands list of countries whose citizens must pay up to $15,000 bonds to apply for visas (apnews.com)
from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to world@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 14:43
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Jumbie@lemmy.zip on 06 Jan 15:01 next collapse

Little Marco could have been a Republican presidential contender.

Instead he’s now the face of Trump’s dictatorship and modern Republic卐nism.

papasan_mamasan@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 15:36 collapse

Makes you wonder how much $$$ his soul cost.

They probably have kompromat on him too.

Wonder how bad it is. I bet it’s boys.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 06 Jan 16:22 collapse

Bold of you to presume he has a soul.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jan 15:10 next collapse

Payment of the bond does not guarantee a visa will be granted, but the amount will be refunded if the visa is denied or when a visa holder demonstrates they have complied with the terms of visa.

I would bet money that they’re gonna “find ways” to not give a lot of those bonds back

SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social on 06 Jan 17:19 collapse

“You didn’t vacuum when you checked out, so we are keeping two thirds of the bond.”

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 15:23 next collapse

US Government increasingly desperate for revenue as the economy slows and hostility towards middle-class income taxes expands.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 06 Jan 16:24 next collapse

I see the organized crime debt market needed an extra boost…

Greddan@feddit.org on 06 Jan 16:26 next collapse

I never understood why anyone would want to move to the U.S. when there are so many other great places to be. Then I remember that a lot of people are really fucking stupid and have probably bought into a lot of propaganda.

Crashumbc@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 16:42 next collapse

Keep in mind, up until this alternative timeline took hold. The US was actually one of the easier countries to immigrate to.

Most of the countries “better” than the US, have much stricter policies.

Grimy@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 17:27 collapse

Most countries have terrible living condition and poverty wages, even for doctors and engineers. Most great places don’t let people from poor places come in easily.

Greddan@feddit.org on 06 Jan 17:54 collapse

That’s not even remotely true. I think someone’s been suckling on the propaganda teet. Tell me, have you ever even been to another country?

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 06 Jan 18:10 next collapse

Has probably never been to another county.

Grimy@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 14:23 collapse

I’ve been to countries where half the population was living in shacks with no running water and making 30$ a week. I can’t imagine telling those people that they have it better.

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 07 Jan 14:39 collapse

If they don’t live under a dictator they are.

Grimy@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 14:48 collapse

Most do. I think maybe you should visit other countries. You are talking from a position of privilege.

democracywithoutborders.org/…/autocracies-outnumb…

porcoesphino@mander.xyz on 06 Jan 18:52 next collapse

I don’t agree with the commenter but I would argue that the wealth disparity in the US means that the top jobs earn more than they would in most of rest of the world

Grimy@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 14:20 collapse

worldpopulationreview.com/…/minimum-wage-by-count…

It’s true for the low-end jobs, not just top earners. There are Uber drivers that are making more then they were being a doctor in their birth country.

porcoesphino@mander.xyz on 07 Jan 15:17 collapse

Most countries have terrible living condition and poverty wages, even for doctors and engineers.

This link makes the point that minimum wage is low across a lot of the world.

Most great places don’t let people from poor places come in easily.

It also seems to show that the US wouldn’t be in the “great” grouping of that list, it would be the next tier down, wouldn’t it?

Grimy@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 15:28 collapse

Look, if the minimum wage is half a dollar, I doubt the doctors are making 100k a year. I don’t consider us a great country, but it’s easier to immigrate here than Luxembourg which is my point. It’s not the best but it’s easily better than half the world, and the best places have stricter requirements that make it impossible for most. Mind you, even immigrating here was hard before trump, just easier than better places.

It just seems hollow to tell people to stay home and find somewhere better, when their choice are between here and Iran for example.

I also don’t think it’s fair, the current state of the world is a direct consequence of the colonial and imperialistic mindset. You still have to be realistic and honest about it.

Grimy@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 14:05 collapse

I misspoke when I said “most”. I’m just saying that with all its faults, there are many worst places to live in.

Certain countries are in the middle of civil wars, even genocide. Being gay is a death sentence in others while women rights in many basically don’t exist.

We also don’t have open borders, it’s not like people get a list with every country and all they have to do is pick.

It strikes me as first world problems and not understanding the actual living conditions in half the world or how immigration works to say “why would anyone come here”.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jan 16:37 next collapse

Do all off them. You don’t deserve migrants.

cornshark@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 16:59 next collapse

And what are those countries?

Mirshe@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 17:13 collapse

If you read the article, the 3rd paragraph has the countries listed out.

Bhutan, Botswana, the Central African Republic, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Namibia and Turkmenistan.

nicgentile@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 17:27 collapse

The Tswana (people from Botswana) rarely travel. When I lived there, the government used to have massive drives to get people to apply for passports. It rarely worked. So this is a non-issue and arbitrary or either a badly scripted effort to do work on behalf of some diamond dealer. Nonetheless, the Tswana, more interested in partying than visiting USA will be unbothered. Also, there is a base involved and the EFF (volatile South African political party) have been pushing for it to be removed. This is just giving it impetus.