China ignores Trump’s Hormuz request as the Iran war deepens and his Beijing trip slips (apnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 14:11
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China won’t help the United States reopen the Strait of Hormuz as requested by Donald Trump, but it is probably welcoming the delay in Trump’s highly anticipated trip to Beijing as the U.S. risks getting bogged down in the Middle East, analysts say.

The latest developments are unfolding as Trump’s Iran war, in its third week, is faced with mounting pressure as oil has stopped moving through the strait and U.S. allies have refused to step up to secure the strait. That has produced concerns that China, the United States’ biggest geopolitical rival, could stand to benefit from a war that some say was ill-considered.

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 14:15 next collapse

China has an Iranian super tanker on the way…

fortune.com/…/iran-supertanker-strait-of-hormuz-c…

Why the fuck would they piss off Iran?

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 14:22 next collapse

Operation Epic Fail

ETA: Other NATO countries, who have actually sustained the switch to reneweables/Green Energy, are probably much less concerned about getting involved in another Forever War on behalf of Petro Don

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 15:10 next collapse

Operation Epstein Fail

FTFY

Humanius@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 15:43 collapse

While other NATO countries may have sustained their switch to renewables, we are not free from our dependence on oil and gas yet. And unlike the US which is a net-exporter of fossil fuels, Europe is a net-importer.

This looming energy crisis is also seriously affecting European countries.

I believe there are two main reasons why European countries are not keen on helping the US out of this:

  • Europe does not want to reward the way the US is currently treating its allies. There is no real guarantee that Trump will come to our aid if Russia invades, so why would we join the US into their ventures in the Middle East.
  • Europe also does not really benefit from escalating a destabilizing war in the Middle East. We have experience with the resulting refugee crisis and terrorist threats from the last few times that that happened.

It also would have been helpful if the US involved us in the plans to start a war with Iran, as allies on an equal footing. But instead the US unilaterally (or together with Israel I guess) decided to bomb the Ayatollah, expecting the European vassals to just fall in line.

“This is not our war”

stumu415@lemmy.zip on 18 Mar 14:27 next collapse

China is just sitting back and watch this mess unfold. Of course there was zero chance of China helping the US. If anything it is strengthening the CCP position at home where the US turns the world is in chaos, but China remains stable and turned inward. The Chinese people mostly care about stability and safety. It’s all playing in China’s hands.

evenglow@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 14:47 next collapse

Trump could have asked before he started bombing. He did not.

Tja@programming.dev on 18 Mar 15:50 collapse

Well, China imports most of its oil, so not all is playing into their hand, but they might consider it a worthy tradeoff.

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 16:48 collapse

That’s the beauty of it. The strait of Hormuz isn’t closed to ships carrying oil or gas to China. Supposing that the US wants to change that, they can, but then China has a lot of options available to them, up to an including enterint the war directly.

Tja@programming.dev on 18 Mar 18:51 collapse

The strait of Hormuz isn’t closed to ships carrying oil or gas to China

Source?

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 18:56 next collapse

Iran

apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel-trump-03-15-2026#…

Tja@programming.dev on 18 Mar 19:36 collapse

Thanks! Didn’t know about that.

I assume this only applies to Iranian oil, as the US and its allies applies to basically every other oil exporter in the region.

I wonder if this will have an effect on oil prices…

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca on 18 Mar 19:12 collapse

Now I can’t find it, so who the hell knows.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 18 Mar 19:53 collapse
manxu@piefed.social on 18 Mar 16:27 collapse

The corollary to, “Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake” is, “Never help your enemy getting out of a mistake they made.”

There is no universe in the infinite multiverses in which this war was a good idea. I don’t know who talked Trump into it, but I am very surprised nobody told him to cut it out. (Note: I have a good idea who talked Trump into it, and maybe this convinces Trump not to listen to Bibi anymore.)