Tedesche@lemmy.world
on 22 Sep 2023 16:48
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Why is it conservatives are so much more frequently corrupt than liberals? There’s nothing about conservativism itself that would lend itself to this sort of bullshit, so how is that corruption spreads so much more in conservative circles?
xkforce@lemmy.world
on 22 Sep 2023 17:03
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Youre wondering why a group of people that paint government officials as corrupt might be more likely to be corrupt themselves? Theyre projecting.
TimeNaan@lemmy.world
on 22 Sep 2023 17:13
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Because it’s an ideology of egoism and selfishness, corruption finds fertile ground in these kinds of attitudes.
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Sep 2023 20:20
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Exactly, one can always find a reason good enough to “screw the system” because you know, it’s only fair
floofloof@lemmy.ca
on 22 Sep 2023 23:02
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There’s nothing about conservativism itself that would lend itself to this sort of bullshit
There’s the fact that the entire ideology places selfishness as its highest value. I’d say that’s conducive to corruption and embezzlement.
Tedesche@lemmy.world
on 25 Sep 2023 15:34
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Then you have a very warped understanding of conservatism. I’m not a conservative myself, but I understand it’s values system. What you likely mistake for selfishness is actually a preference for individual liberty to take precedence over the interests of the majority. That’s not to say the greater good doesn’t matter; it just means conservatives feel everyone being free to do what they please serves the greater good better than majorities dictating what individuals should do. Like liberalism, conservatism has its flaws, but it is not inherently selfish or evil.
However, I should also note that I don’t think modern conservatives follow conservatism very closely these days. Trump and others have succeeded in perverting that value system into something something much more authoritarian than conservatism is at its core.
Toine@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Sep 2023 10:24
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Turns out there is another trial in France right now, for pretty much the same thing, concerning the centrist party. Left-wing parties have had similar practices too. As much as I hate Marine, this was and is still a very general behaviour of all political parties to misuse available funds for their benefits.
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Why is it conservatives are so much more frequently corrupt than liberals? There’s nothing about conservativism itself that would lend itself to this sort of bullshit, so how is that corruption spreads so much more in conservative circles?
Youre wondering why a group of people that paint government officials as corrupt might be more likely to be corrupt themselves? Theyre projecting.
Because it’s an ideology of egoism and selfishness, corruption finds fertile ground in these kinds of attitudes.
Exactly, one can always find a reason good enough to “screw the system” because you know, it’s only fair
There’s the fact that the entire ideology places selfishness as its highest value. I’d say that’s conducive to corruption and embezzlement.
Then you have a very warped understanding of conservatism. I’m not a conservative myself, but I understand it’s values system. What you likely mistake for selfishness is actually a preference for individual liberty to take precedence over the interests of the majority. That’s not to say the greater good doesn’t matter; it just means conservatives feel everyone being free to do what they please serves the greater good better than majorities dictating what individuals should do. Like liberalism, conservatism has its flaws, but it is not inherently selfish or evil.
However, I should also note that I don’t think modern conservatives follow conservatism very closely these days. Trump and others have succeeded in perverting that value system into something something much more authoritarian than conservatism is at its core.
Turns out there is another trial in France right now, for pretty much the same thing, concerning the centrist party. Left-wing parties have had similar practices too. As much as I hate Marine, this was and is still a very general behaviour of all political parties to misuse available funds for their benefits.