Argentina’s Milei is struggling with the economy and losing popularity (english.elpais.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 16:50
https://lemmy.world/post/45810353

Persistent inflation, rising unemployment, and corruption cases are creating the worst possible panorama for the president’s public image

In a scenario constructed from the official statistics promoted by the government, Javier Milei’s Argentina is a happy world: poverty is falling to its lowest level in the last seven years, economic activity is reaching record highs, and fiscal balance is being maintained.

But, simultaneously, more and more people say that their present situation doesn’t align with the successes touted by the far-right president, a disconnect pointed out not only by his detractors but even by figures of economic orthodoxy aligned with his policies.

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nkat2112@sh.itjust.works on 19 Apr 16:57 next collapse

I admit:

I didn’t have “Milei fascism resulting in donkey meat as an Argentinian food staple” on my bingo card.

manxu@piefed.social on 19 Apr 18:27 collapse

Right? Argentina having a beef shortage is weirdo bizarre, like Russia running out of vodka or Saudi Arabia out of oil.

bedwyr@piefed.ca on 19 Apr 19:39 next collapse

Fun fact, Vodka is swill, and has always been owned by the Tsar that has a virtual monopoly on it. The rich in Russia don’t drink that shit.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 21:58 collapse

Vodka is the drink of the proletariat

Molotov the monopolies

bedwyr@piefed.ca on 19 Apr 22:01 collapse

Vodka is the drink of suckers feeding the Tsar, or president as the case may be. Brew your own. Or go to hell.

Molotov idk, meet luigi.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 22:26 collapse

Unionizing distilleries is not a crazy concept

bedwyr@piefed.ca on 19 Apr 22:32 collapse

You think the russian government will allow unionization? They would kill/enslave them all.
Do it yourself, in secret.

But yes, Unionize.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 23:35 collapse

No, fuck the Russian government and every other capitalist hellhole

bedwyr@piefed.ca on 20 Apr 00:14 collapse

No shit?

sepi@piefed.social on 19 Apr 19:32 next collapse

Or America running out of mass shootings

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 19 Apr 23:02 collapse

There is no beef shortage. It’s just about beef being too expensive. Also, I’ve lived in Argentina my entire life and I’ve never seen “donkey meat” or heard of anyone who has.

PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Apr 17:01 next collapse

Been hearing that for awhile, but even after passing some extremely unpopular laws, he still won majority of congress on midterm elections

MoonManKipper@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 17:15 next collapse

Need more Uruguay

ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Apr 17:38 next collapse

They voted for it… again and again

bedwyr@piefed.ca on 19 Apr 19:37 collapse

They were faced by sold out parties owned by powerful interests and chose the protest candidate.

No lesson to learn there pals, go back to sleep…

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 17:54 next collapse

Race/racial dynamics in Argentina will keep this man in power, I’m almost certain of it.

arandomthought@sh.itjust.works on 19 Apr 18:25 collapse

Oh no… How come? I’m genuinely asking.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 18:34 collapse

Unlike most of Latin America and its racial admixture, Argentina is just colonizer land, something like 90%+ of people there are purely of European origins, many of them white supremacist fascists coming from Italy and Germany in WW2. They brought their ideology and takes with them, and there already was a fertile base for it before too, and (at least from my understanding) they’ll vote for the obviously amoral and deranged pale man because “he’s one of us and that’s what matters”, in a very Trumpian American manner. 🤷

Remember white Argentinians, way past the days of Spanish colonization, had their own fun times with reservations, mass killings and concentration camps for native Americans…

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 20:29 collapse

There is a lot of ignorance in this comment, have you ever been in argentina?

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 21:20 collapse

Yes, a couple of times actually, the meat is glorious over there. From the “Racism in Argentina” wiki:

“European” racism and Article 25 of the Constitution

In Argentina, an extensive racist ideology has been built on the notion of European supremacy.[30] This ideology forwards the idea that Argentina is a country populated by European immigrants bajados de los barcos (straight off the boat), frequently referred to as “our grandfathers”, who founded a special type of European society that is not Latin-American.[31] In addition, this ideology holds forth that cultural influences from other communities such as the Aborigines, Africans, fellow Latin-Americans, Arabs, Asians, and Pacific Islanders, are not relevant and even undesirable.

European racism in Argentina has a history of government participation. The ideology even has a legal foundation that was set forth in Article 25 of the National Constitution sponsored by Juan Bautista Alberdi. The article establishes a difference between European immigration (which should be encouraged) and non-European immigration.

Article 25: The Federal Government will encourage European immigration; and will not restrict, limit, nor tax the entry of any foreigner into the territory of Argentina who comes with the goal of working the land, bettering industry, or introducing or teaching sciences or the arts.

— Constitution of Argentina

Alberdi, the article’s sponsor and the father of the Argentine Constitution of 1853, explained in his own words the basis for White-European discrimination:

If you were to put the roto (literally "broken"), the gaucho, the cholo, the basic element of our popular masses, through the finest educational system; in one hundred years you would not make him an English worker who works, consumes, and lives comfortably and in a dignified manner.

— Juan B. Alberdi[32]

The discrimination between European and non-European immigration established by Article 25 of the Constitution has survived all subsequent constitutional reforms (1860, 1868, 1898, 1949, 1957, 1972 and 1994).

Alberdi claimed that the “races which could improve the species” in Argentina where those that originated from Western Europe, chiefly Spain, England and France. Alberdi was also very partial to France where he spent much of his life in exile and where he died in 1884. In this way, despite the predominantly Hispanic and Latin culture of Argentina, Alberti proposed a semi-nordicist policy somewhat similar to the later White Australia policy and the United States Immigration Act of 1924.

Alberdi, who was a proponent of French being the national language of Argentina, believed that Latino and Christian traditions were enemies of progress and supported discrimination against Latin American and Jewish immigration.[33]

On the other hand, Argentine racist ideology against Jews became stronger over time. The apex of this tendency occurred when the Argentina foreign minister during the presidency of Roberto M. Ortiz issued a secret order in 1938 to deny Jewish immigrants visas to Argentina.[34]

In an effort to combat racism in Argentine society, the National Institute Against Discrimination, Xenophobia and Racism (INADI) was created in 1995 by Federal Law 24515.[3] However, in 2024, the Javier Milei administration closed the INADI to reduce public spending.

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 22:48 collapse

Ok, i will try to be polite

Unlike most of Latin America and its racial admixture, Argentina is just colonizer land, something like 90%+ of people there are purely of European origins

That number refers to people with european roots, not pure european origin. And yes, it has to do with colonizers and genocide, but it also has to do with a lower native population compared to other parts of america and to the fact that between 1870 and 1910 we got overflown in immigrants mainly coming from italy and spain. Think of a 1/2 ratio of immigrants to nationals… they mixed, they reshaped everything, our culture, our accent, our schools, our products amd exports…

many of them white supremacist fascists coming from Italy and Germany in WW2.

That… i mean “yes, there were nazi and fascist refugees in argentina” but we are talking about thousands… not millions… its not like we are speaking german on the streets. This isn’t a hollywood movie, right?

They brought their ideology and takes with them, and there already was a fertile base for it before too, and

… i cant follow you… are you citing Peron, the populist guy who tried to mimic and mix fascism and stalinism, or the ever dying oligarchs (you know, the dudes that were pushing military coups). bothe were and were not nazis in their way… what they definitely were not was racists.

(at least from my understanding)

Ah, that explains

they’ll

Oh, wow.

vote for the obviously amoral and deranged pale man

yes, a lot of people sadly voted for milei

because “he’s one of us and that’s what matters”, in a very Trumpian American manner.

No, it wasnt like that

SoupBrick@pawb.social on 19 Apr 17:53 next collapse

Do the Libertarians still claim this guy as theirs?

A member of the Libertarian Party, Milei ran for president of Argentina…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Milei

marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today on 19 Apr 18:22 collapse

Why wouldn’t they? Besides not being openly for pedophilia he’s the exact ideal libertarian.

resolute_clover@sh.itjust.works on 19 Apr 18:34 next collapse

Who could’ve guessed and that’s after US taxpayers gave them $20 billion

Sharkticon@lemmy.zip on 19 Apr 23:23 collapse

Wasn’t it 40?

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 19:10 collapse

Oh noes. Populist has no solution, only messes shit up.