Nice cat. Is Vance popular at all? Cause it looks he is angrier and less charismatic version of Trump. It looks that even hard core far-right don’t like him
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 20:46
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I’m very proud of Hungary. Even with the media capture and social media bombardment, the nation saw through the fog. And that voter turnout percentage is something I’ve never heard of in my lifetime in my country.
MonsterMonster@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 20:05
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Brilliant news for Hungary, Europe and Ukraine.
Now let’s watch the theatrics of Vance crying about interference.
tinkermeister@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 20:05
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I must admit, even though he was down in the polls, I still expected him to win somehow. It gives me a little glimmer of hope that the world may not become an authoritarian hellscape.
If the loss is big enough, there is no way to get the foot in the door, might not waste the political capital of a tantrum to keep doing damage leading opposition.
And the loss is basically a wipeout. They are practically irrelevant in Parliament, and Tisza, unlike in Poland, can just boot out any of their appointees as they have a supermajority.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
on 13 Apr 07:51
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The massive turnout also made it impossible to pull anything funny. It’s relatively easy to slip in a few thousands of fake votes when you control the electoral apparatus, but trying to skew such a lopsided election with such an high participation rate would create participation rates above 100% in some places.
My hope was that Tisza would be 1 or 2 seats away from the super majority and there would be another opposition party (non orban, non nationalist) in parliament to actually be there to stamp things
The thing is that the only parties I’d trust with that are the ones that stepped back before the election. The only three others on the ballot were the ultranationalist Mi Hazánk, the collaborator DK, and well, MKKP. If that scenario happened with any one of these, they could be paid to be obstructionists.
There is no getting around it, the people will have to keep them to account to implement term limits and the anti-corruption measures they were running on themselves.
Hopefully not. New party has 2/3rds majority, meaning they will clean house - new AG, new supreme court, election laws, etc. They can do what they want, which is a risk, but there is no other way to defeat Orban’s state capture
Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 20:13
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Drunk with power he lost his sense in the end. Next Trump, Netanyahu, Putin and so on.
freebee@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Apr 20:43
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I think 2 of those 3 will be dead before ever handing over power
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 12 Apr 22:14
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think netanyahu is up for election this year.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 20:34
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Trump with another impressive foreign election result.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip
on 12 Apr 20:38
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Finally, good news since Mamdani!
I’m so happy for Hungary and for the EU! Hungarians, u rock!!! :))
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Apr 20:46
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Please Vance, vouch for Erdogan next time
lennybird@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 21:15
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Someone please tell me the opposition winner is legit and not another Russian stooge
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 21:51
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Hard to tell right now. He used to be one of Orban’s buddies up until a few years ago. He’s saying the right things right now - less corruption, more services for Hungarians, closer ties to the EU and NATO.
But we’ll see. From what I understand, Orban was also seen as a progressive about 20 years ago. But then Putin and greed got their hooks into him. Hopefully the new guy is legit.
If he is legit, I wonder his this will shift the dynamic in the EU. Without Hungary vetoing everything Putin doesn’t like, does this clear the path more for Ukraine joining the EU and/or NATO? I know there are a lot of other factors in okay. But the people of Hungary might have just helped others and not just themselves.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 12 Apr 22:19
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There’s another EU member with a russian stooge in power, isn’t there? I could be wrong but I think it was Slovakia that recently elected one.
I was gonna say Belarus but they’re not in the EU.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 13 Apr 12:55
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Fuck Lukashenko too though
lennybird@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 22:57
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That will truly be a major test. Man, I’m hoping for a legitimate win for once. This could be the biggest shift since Carney’s victory in Canada. I’ve also sadly seen how gullible people can believe lies like, “America First” and “No New Wars,” and take a pathological liar at their word. Leaving aside the longer-term games being played by billionaires.
Here’s hoping for the best. I’m just honestly a bit shocked that he relinquished power this easily.
He’s against support for Ukraine. So, outlook not so good. On paper, he’s an improvement over Orbán but he’s still at least center-right. We won’t know until he starts implementing policies.
Nickelalloy@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 22:08
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This is great news, I will go and buy some fancy wine and nice beer and share with my family and neighbours tomorrow! Cheers folks!
(I know tough times are coming bit this makes things so much better!)
In the back of my head, I’m slightly worried when a European country has a party that has more than 50% of the seats. We’re supposed to not be two-party systems.
But on every other part of my head, this feels great. Good stuff, hungarians! I wish I had free money to invest into Hungary. Seems like a safe bet right now.
TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemmy.zip
on 13 Apr 07:13
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As I understand it, Orban has rewritten the laws so the biggest party gets an unproportional amount of seats. Works well when you are able to keep the opposition fractured, but less well when your comeuppance finally arrives.
Hopefully the new party will roll back those laws and make it more fair in future.
Supercrunchy@programming.dev
on 13 Apr 10:19
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Other EU countries have a similar unfair system. They’re quite easy to spot because they usually have 2 parties that get 90%+ of the seats.
Once that system is in place, the incentives of the party in power are to keep it, because they’d lose a supermajority if they win the next election cycle.
I honestly don’t know how you could fix the system once it’s so entrenched. I think it can only change if people become aware of how their shitty political situation (only 2 viable parties) is entirely created by this electoral system, and somehow demand a change.
While i’m happy Órban is out, do remember that Magyar is Órban-lite and Órban spent 16 years ensuring he’ll be hard to get rid of. Magyar may’ve won the election but he’s not in the clear yet.
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thanks Vance 👍❤️🇺🇸
First the Pope, now Orban’s government, what next!
I think you know who 🤞
Apparently, Trump is immune.
Or doesn’t hang out with Vance, which would be a very rare thing he and I agree on
Quick go visit Putin!
He fucked up the Iran deal.
The israelis would regardless.
Also Canada.
Hopefully he’s still in office to come to Australia in mid 2028 and ensure us a Labor/Greens victory.
Nice cat. Is Vance popular at all? Cause it looks he is angrier and less charismatic version of Trump. It looks that even hard core far-right don’t like him
lol, no, not at all. only the MAGA die-hards like him, but not all that much.
No, everyone either actively hates or barely tolerates the couch fucking pope killer.
I think there are a few fringe movements that don’t hate him, but he’s literally where he is as a threat to anyone who would impeach Trump.
Last time I checked, impeachment would get rid of the whole admin: pres, vice and secretaries. Maybe you mean the 25th.
The polls for Orban went down after Vance’s endorsement visit. That’s how populair he is.
vance quickly ditched hungary for IRAN.
I hope he at least ate some nice goulash and lángos, otherwise not much point of dropping by
You just know that he had someone pick up McD
or, you know, whatever made sense at the time…
Holy shit, fantastic result! Orban deserved that lol
Thank you, people of Hungary. You rock
I’m very proud of Hungary. Even with the media capture and social media bombardment, the nation saw through the fog. And that voter turnout percentage is something I’ve never heard of in my lifetime in my country.
Thanks for sending J.D. Vance our way, it definitely helped!
I am getting the feeling that JD is not really talented in politics
I can’t even imagine the elation Hungarians must be feeling right now!
It’s more like relief.
It was insane, we partied until 3 am on the streets of Budapest. People were hanging from poles, shooting fireworks and dancing
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Great pic. How’s the hangover? :D
Brilliant news for Hungary, Europe and Ukraine.
Now let’s watch the theatrics of Vance crying about interference.
I must admit, even though he was down in the polls, I still expected him to win somehow. It gives me a little glimmer of hope that the world may not become an authoritarian hellscape.
I didn’t really expect him to lose. But I had serious doubts if he would get out of the government after it.
But then, I don’t know the details.
Even if he lost with a close result, he could have blocked lots of change. Fortunately, his opponent has a 2/3 majority, so Orban can’t do anything. 😃
If the loss is big enough, there is no way to get the foot in the door, might not waste the political capital of a tantrum to keep doing damage leading opposition.
And the loss is basically a wipeout. They are practically irrelevant in Parliament, and Tisza, unlike in Poland, can just boot out any of their appointees as they have a supermajority.
The massive turnout also made it impossible to pull anything funny. It’s relatively easy to slip in a few thousands of fake votes when you control the electoral apparatus, but trying to skew such a lopsided election with such an high participation rate would create participation rates above 100% in some places.
What’s the catch? Just watched John Oliver and got the impression this was impossible
Orban put so many of his cronies everywhere, it will take years if not decades to restore the country
They will readjust like the spineless crooks they are.
Since it’s a 2/3 blowout, all of those can be simply removed.
The biggest danger going forward is Tisza becoming corrupt by either not going through with removing them, or becoming like Fidesz was.
They state they won’t.
My hope was that Tisza would be 1 or 2 seats away from the super majority and there would be another opposition party (non orban, non nationalist) in parliament to actually be there to stamp things
The thing is that the only parties I’d trust with that are the ones that stepped back before the election. The only three others on the ballot were the ultranationalist Mi Hazánk, the collaborator DK, and well, MKKP. If that scenario happened with any one of these, they could be paid to be obstructionists.
There is no getting around it, the people will have to keep them to account to implement term limits and the anti-corruption measures they were running on themselves.
Hopefully not. New party has 2/3rds majority, meaning they will clean house - new AG, new supreme court, election laws, etc. They can do what they want, which is a risk, but there is no other way to defeat Orban’s state capture
Drunk with power he lost his sense in the end. Next Trump, Netanyahu, Putin and so on.
I think 2 of those 3 will be dead before ever handing over power
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think netanyahu is up for election this year.
Don’t worry, he’ll win.
It surely feels good to see a fascist lose. That’s enough for me these days.
Literally can’t believe it. Maybe there’s hope yet.
Yay. :)
I note the turnout is huge, in the early evening, 75% of eligible people had voted.
An incredible number. That is civic duty!
Fuck, if only the US could do this.
79.5% is the final number. Absolutely insane, people really had enough or Orban
Wish this was a “hooray” moment for Hungary or the region.
Come on. Am I dreaming?
April First! 🖕🖕
vtr.valasztas.hu/ogy2026 live seats, looks like a 2/3 blowout.
Wow. now that’s an honest crook
Trump with another impressive foreign election result.
Finally, good news since Mamdani!
I’m so happy for Hungary and for the EU! Hungarians, u rock!!! :))
Please Vance, vouch for Erdogan next time
Someone please tell me the opposition winner is legit and not another Russian stooge
Hard to tell right now. He used to be one of Orban’s buddies up until a few years ago. He’s saying the right things right now - less corruption, more services for Hungarians, closer ties to the EU and NATO.
But we’ll see. From what I understand, Orban was also seen as a progressive about 20 years ago. But then Putin and greed got their hooks into him. Hopefully the new guy is legit.
If he is legit, I wonder his this will shift the dynamic in the EU. Without Hungary vetoing everything Putin doesn’t like, does this clear the path more for Ukraine joining the EU and/or NATO? I know there are a lot of other factors in okay. But the people of Hungary might have just helped others and not just themselves.
There’s another EU member with a russian stooge in power, isn’t there? I could be wrong but I think it was Slovakia that recently elected one.
Still great news that Orban is out.
I was gonna say Belarus but they’re not in the EU.
Fuck Lukashenko too though
That will truly be a major test. Man, I’m hoping for a legitimate win for once. This could be the biggest shift since Carney’s victory in Canada. I’ve also sadly seen how gullible people can believe lies like, “America First” and “No New Wars,” and take a pathological liar at their word. Leaving aside the longer-term games being played by billionaires.
Here’s hoping for the best. I’m just honestly a bit shocked that he relinquished power this easily.
C’mon, guy is a lot of things but not a friend to Russia
Let’s hope he doesn’t suffer from sudden and acute defenestration.
He’s legit, no worries on that front. Implementing policies and promises - let’s see, but I’m optimistic
He’s against support for Ukraine. So, outlook not so good. On paper, he’s an improvement over Orbán but he’s still at least center-right. We won’t know until he starts implementing policies.
This is great news, I will go and buy some fancy wine and nice beer and share with my family and neighbours tomorrow! Cheers folks!
(I know tough times are coming bit this makes things so much better!)
JFC, things have gotten so bad that we are cheering for some Hungarian conservative winning an election.
Big congratulations to the people of Hungary. Hopefully this is the start of a much better chapter in their country’s history.
Let’s hope, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Orbán was already burnt, maybe they just put a new puppet (they = a country that produces vodka).
Let’s see if he actually restores democracy.
Fecking meddling Finns!
Thank you! Feels good to be a Hungarian again after decades of shame
Love to see it, folks.
Budapest shouts “Russians out”, in memory of the Hungarian uprising of 1956 and against the Putin asset they ousted today.
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In the back of my head, I’m slightly worried when a European country has a party that has more than 50% of the seats. We’re supposed to not be two-party systems.
But on every other part of my head, this feels great. Good stuff, hungarians! I wish I had free money to invest into Hungary. Seems like a safe bet right now.
As I understand it, Orban has rewritten the laws so the biggest party gets an unproportional amount of seats. Works well when you are able to keep the opposition fractured, but less well when your comeuppance finally arrives.
Hopefully the new party will roll back those laws and make it more fair in future.
Other EU countries have a similar unfair system. They’re quite easy to spot because they usually have 2 parties that get 90%+ of the seats.
Once that system is in place, the incentives of the party in power are to keep it, because they’d lose a supermajority if they win the next election cycle.
I honestly don’t know how you could fix the system once it’s so entrenched. I think it can only change if people become aware of how their shitty political situation (only 2 viable parties) is entirely created by this electoral system, and somehow demand a change.
It was a good day
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Couch fucking, pope killing, election fucking loser
They need to stop letting the couch fucker meet with people… he obviously represents a bad omen for their cult, and it’s showing
nono, let them
Most important: it’s even a 2/3 majority. Without that, Orban could have still blocked most of the changes. Now, he cannot.
Hell yeah.
He’s probably packing his suitcases for an “extended stay” in Russia. And some of them will be packed with money and gold…
Maybe he’ll go to Albania with Eric Adams.
What the fuck is that parasite doing in Albania? lol
or the US, he has options.
bye Felicia 👋
Good job, friends. Now, a republic once again… if you can keep it.
While i’m happy Órban is out, do remember that Magyar is Órban-lite and Órban spent 16 years ensuring he’ll be hard to get rid of. Magyar may’ve won the election but he’s not in the clear yet.
JD has really been pulling through for us.