I know the casualties number is not “dead” per se, but even if you go by estimated dead at something like 325k the difference is staggering. More than an order of magnitude more deaths on their side. That’s the cost of meat wave tactics versus a modern military.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 06:50
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Yeah but he’s probably lying, so it’s hard to tell how much better Ukraine are doing.
You’re being downvoted, but honestly, who can really say either way.
During war, we should expect everything officially stated by both sides to be propaganda. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes exaggerated, sometimes a lie, either to deceive the enemy, or others.
I want to believe the positive statistics of course, but I take it all with a grain of salt.
Even a good, moral leader would be stupid to always tell the unvarnished truth during wartime.
If Russia actually had the manpower and hardware to overwhelm Ukraine and achieve their objectives, they would ahave done so years before now. They are stalling. The west could end this whole conflict relatively quickly if they wanted to. Simply sever all diplomatic AND economic ties with Russia and with any country that doesn’t do exactly the same. China and India would fall in line almost instantly and Putin’s efforts would collapse like a house of cards.
The bbc listed 160k confirmed Russian deaths at the end of 2025, with estimates of the actual total between 248 and 325k. So probably around 5-1 which is high for attackers vs defenders (I think historically this is estimated at a 3-1 disadvantage, so 1 defender dies for every 3 attackers).
Meaning Ukraine is doing a pretty good job and Russia a terrible one. Nothing new there
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Compare that to the Russian casualties. Reminds me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I know the casualties number is not “dead” per se, but even if you go by estimated dead at something like 325k the difference is staggering. More than an order of magnitude more deaths on their side. That’s the cost of meat wave tactics versus a modern military.
Yeah but he’s probably lying, so it’s hard to tell how much better Ukraine are doing.
You’re being downvoted, but honestly, who can really say either way.
During war, we should expect everything officially stated by both sides to be propaganda. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes exaggerated, sometimes a lie, either to deceive the enemy, or others.
I want to believe the positive statistics of course, but I take it all with a grain of salt.
Even a good, moral leader would be stupid to always tell the unvarnished truth during wartime.
If Russia actually had the manpower and hardware to overwhelm Ukraine and achieve their objectives, they would ahave done so years before now. They are stalling. The west could end this whole conflict relatively quickly if they wanted to. Simply sever all diplomatic AND economic ties with Russia and with any country that doesn’t do exactly the same. China and India would fall in line almost instantly and Putin’s efforts would collapse like a house of cards.
That’s the main problem I have with western support of Ukraine, it all feels like just enough to take advantage of rebuilding after the war.
still 55,000 too many but outstanding compared to what i feared
So, about 5% of the number of Russian conscript casualties?
Casualty doesn’t mean death.
The bbc listed 160k confirmed Russian deaths at the end of 2025, with estimates of the actual total between 248 and 325k. So probably around 5-1 which is high for attackers vs defenders (I think historically this is estimated at a 3-1 disadvantage, so 1 defender dies for every 3 attackers).
Meaning Ukraine is doing a pretty good job and Russia a terrible one. Nothing new there
Contract soldiers, not conscripts.
So it’s reached genocidal levels?!