I know the casualties number is not “dead” per se, but even if you go by estimated dead at something like 325k the difference is staggering. More than an order of magnitude more deaths on their side. That’s the cost of meat wave tactics versus a modern military.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2026 06:50
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Yeah but he’s probably lying, so it’s hard to tell how much better Ukraine are doing.
You’re being downvoted, but honestly, who can really say either way.
During war, we should expect everything officially stated by both sides to be propaganda. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes exaggerated, sometimes a lie, either to deceive the enemy, or others.
I want to believe the positive statistics of course, but I take it all with a grain of salt.
Even a good, moral leader would be stupid to always tell the unvarnished truth during wartime.
thlibos@thelemmy.club
on 06 Feb 2026 09:07
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If Russia actually had the manpower and hardware to overwhelm Ukraine and achieve their objectives, they would ahave done so years before now. They are stalling. The west could end this whole conflict relatively quickly if they wanted to. Simply sever all diplomatic AND economic ties with Russia and with any country that doesn’t do exactly the same. China and India would fall in line almost instantly and Putin’s efforts would collapse like a house of cards.
That’s the main problem I have with western support of Ukraine, it all feels like just enough to take advantage of rebuilding after the war.
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 06 Feb 2026 15:58
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the us is a total trump show now but back before it all started the us agreed along with russia to guarantee their safety and the us really blew off that obligation. I mean japan should really have started building up its military at that point.
tomiant@piefed.social
on 06 Feb 2026 19:26
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With friends like the US who needs enemies…
Impound4017@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Feb 2026 02:51
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If I’m understanding what you mean correctly, then that is the point that Japan started building up its military again. The war in Ukraine was a shock to the system for many countries, and Japan was no exception. Their subsequent 2023 force design white paper outlined a whole host of ways that they intended to expand and modernize the force in order to better handle a potential fight if the “rules-based international order” (their words) were to continue its trajectory of instability.
Still, your point stands, as to my understanding, they remain deeply dependent on INDOPACOM for coordination a lot of the time. For example: South Korea is by far one of their best options as regional allies go, but those two haven’t really been able to put aside the hate for each other very effectively. They’re explicitly allied, but most Asia Pacific training operations involving Korea and Japan are configured with the US as the glue holding them together. I, for one, wouldn’t trust that glue to keep holding.
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 07 Feb 2026 13:43
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I mean Im thinking the taking of crimea is when they should have started and yeah south korea, japan, taiwan need to combine with some other asian countries and maybe bring in australia and canada if they can.
jimmy90@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2026 08:03
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still 55,000 too many but outstanding compared to what i feared
thlibos@thelemmy.club
on 06 Feb 2026 08:59
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So, about 5% of the number of Russian conscript casualties?
Dremor@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2026 10:34
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Casualty doesn’t mean death.
Pringles@sopuli.xyz
on 06 Feb 2026 11:56
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The bbc listed 160k confirmed Russian deaths at the end of 2025, with estimates of the actual total between 248 and 325k. So probably around 5-1 which is high for attackers vs defenders (I think historically this is estimated at a 3-1 disadvantage, so 1 defender dies for every 3 attackers).
Meaning Ukraine is doing a pretty good job and Russia a terrible one. Nothing new there
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Compare that to the Russian casualties. Reminds me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I know the casualties number is not “dead” per se, but even if you go by estimated dead at something like 325k the difference is staggering. More than an order of magnitude more deaths on their side. That’s the cost of meat wave tactics versus a modern military.
Yeah but he’s probably lying, so it’s hard to tell how much better Ukraine are doing.
You’re being downvoted, but honestly, who can really say either way.
During war, we should expect everything officially stated by both sides to be propaganda. Sometimes it’s true, sometimes exaggerated, sometimes a lie, either to deceive the enemy, or others.
I want to believe the positive statistics of course, but I take it all with a grain of salt.
Even a good, moral leader would be stupid to always tell the unvarnished truth during wartime.
If Russia actually had the manpower and hardware to overwhelm Ukraine and achieve their objectives, they would ahave done so years before now. They are stalling. The west could end this whole conflict relatively quickly if they wanted to. Simply sever all diplomatic AND economic ties with Russia and with any country that doesn’t do exactly the same. China and India would fall in line almost instantly and Putin’s efforts would collapse like a house of cards.
That’s the main problem I have with western support of Ukraine, it all feels like just enough to take advantage of rebuilding after the war.
the us is a total trump show now but back before it all started the us agreed along with russia to guarantee their safety and the us really blew off that obligation. I mean japan should really have started building up its military at that point.
With friends like the US who needs enemies…
If I’m understanding what you mean correctly, then that is the point that Japan started building up its military again. The war in Ukraine was a shock to the system for many countries, and Japan was no exception. Their subsequent 2023 force design white paper outlined a whole host of ways that they intended to expand and modernize the force in order to better handle a potential fight if the “rules-based international order” (their words) were to continue its trajectory of instability.
Still, your point stands, as to my understanding, they remain deeply dependent on INDOPACOM for coordination a lot of the time. For example: South Korea is by far one of their best options as regional allies go, but those two haven’t really been able to put aside the hate for each other very effectively. They’re explicitly allied, but most Asia Pacific training operations involving Korea and Japan are configured with the US as the glue holding them together. I, for one, wouldn’t trust that glue to keep holding.
I mean Im thinking the taking of crimea is when they should have started and yeah south korea, japan, taiwan need to combine with some other asian countries and maybe bring in australia and canada if they can.
still 55,000 too many but outstanding compared to what i feared
So, about 5% of the number of Russian conscript casualties?
Casualty doesn’t mean death.
The bbc listed 160k confirmed Russian deaths at the end of 2025, with estimates of the actual total between 248 and 325k. So probably around 5-1 which is high for attackers vs defenders (I think historically this is estimated at a 3-1 disadvantage, so 1 defender dies for every 3 attackers).
Meaning Ukraine is doing a pretty good job and Russia a terrible one. Nothing new there
Contract soldiers, not conscripts.
So it’s reached genocidal levels?!