EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
on 11 Mar 12:49
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Straight’s closed. You can’t sail there.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Mar 12:57
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Yeah idk whats so hard to understand about “closed”. Why does the crew not just refuse going there?
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Mar 13:53
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Because Trump keeps pushing them to do dangerous and stupid things.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Mar 13:55
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There are a variety of reasons to be confused, even the entire oil market is confused.
Here are some reasons for confusion:
The Bendy of Hormuz is not closed, it’s just closed to ships Iran doesn’t like. Iran has somehow actually exported more oil since the war began.
Iran has told GCC countries they can use the Bendy if they don’t allow US troops to stage attacks from their countries.
The maritime data is being spoofed. Pretty sure it’s US allies doing the spoofing, they were making it look like there was a line of ships ready to cross, when in actuality they weren’t even there.
The Trump admin straight up lied the other day and said they safley escorted a ship.
I’m not sure if you’re making a joke that the rockets are the explosives or if they actually have rockets they launch that are like cluster munitions that drop a bunch of mines in to the water.
As far as I know, they have the capability to deploy minefields by rocket from long range. I’m not sure if we’re talking the bigger MLRS or the smaller ballistic missiles, but it’s certainly possible.
However it’d be interesting to know if its also possible for naval mines… which are a few magnitudes bigger and also usually rely on an anker (ofter heavy) to stay in position.
Given the high weight I’m sceptical if a naval minefield can be achieved by missle transport.
I’m going to have to look into it further. If it’s a drifting mine, it could be a lot more compact and still do a lot of damage to ships. They would be less effective in theory, but all they really need is for the strait to be nominally mined.
“drifting mine”
That’s a nightmarish thought. Those will go everywhere, wash up on shore, go out into the Indian Ocean, whatever. I really hope that’s not what’s going on here.
You could presumably program them to self-detonate after a few weeks or months, but it would still present an unexploded ordnance hazard. I’m also hoping that they’re got proper anchored mines, with detailed records of locations for postwar minesweeping, but given the situation they could just be throwing them all out there as quick as they can. It is after all an existential war for national survival on Iran’s side.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Mar 15:28
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Did they identify the source as drones? It says unknown projectiles, so Anonymous Intercepting Devices. AIDs, if you will.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
on 11 Mar 16:00
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Despite the propaganda from the West, Iran is keeping the Straits closed indefinitely (except for their allies). This was signposted by Iran to try to deter the Zionist neocon warmongers but clearly they didn’t care or take it seriously. Now we will all pay for Netanyahu’s insane war with higher energy and food prices.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
on 11 Mar 17:24
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Let’s not minimize the US Republicans culpability here. They bear just as much responsibility for all of this.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Mar 17:52
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There really isn’t any “strait is open” propaganda coming from the US that I’ve seen. Everyone here knows it’s down and out.
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Straight’s closed. You can’t sail there.
Yeah idk whats so hard to understand about “closed”. Why does the crew not just refuse going there?
Because Trump keeps pushing them to do dangerous and stupid things.
There are a variety of reasons to be confused, even the entire oil market is confused.
Here are some reasons for confusion:
I like calling it the bendy of hormuz
You can make a lot of money if you make it.
Money.
Do you think the Asian slaves on these ships are keeping up to global news on social media?
Strait wisdom to be sure.
Moose out front should’ve told you.
Let the mother fucker burn, burn motherfucker, burn!
Unlike the roof, though, the Bendy of Hormuz DOES need water!
Straight’s closed because of drones
Mines.
Most of their mine laying vessels are at the bottom of the straight at this point.
They can mine it remotely with rockets.
I’m not sure if you’re making a joke that the rockets are the explosives or if they actually have rockets they launch that are like cluster munitions that drop a bunch of mines in to the water.
As far as I know, they have the capability to deploy minefields by rocket from long range. I’m not sure if we’re talking the bigger MLRS or the smaller ballistic missiles, but it’s certainly possible.
I know that for land mines this is true.
However it’d be interesting to know if its also possible for naval mines… which are a few magnitudes bigger and also usually rely on an anker (ofter heavy) to stay in position.
Given the high weight I’m sceptical if a naval minefield can be achieved by missle transport.
I’m going to have to look into it further. If it’s a drifting mine, it could be a lot more compact and still do a lot of damage to ships. They would be less effective in theory, but all they really need is for the strait to be nominally mined.
“drifting mine” That’s a nightmarish thought. Those will go everywhere, wash up on shore, go out into the Indian Ocean, whatever. I really hope that’s not what’s going on here.
You could presumably program them to self-detonate after a few weeks or months, but it would still present an unexploded ordnance hazard. I’m also hoping that they’re got proper anchored mines, with detailed records of locations for postwar minesweeping, but given the situation they could just be throwing them all out there as quick as they can. It is after all an existential war for national survival on Iran’s side.
Did they identify the source as drones? It says unknown projectiles, so Anonymous Intercepting Devices. AIDs, if you will.
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Despite the propaganda from the West, Iran is keeping the Straits closed indefinitely (except for their allies). This was signposted by Iran to try to deter the Zionist neocon warmongers but clearly they didn’t care or take it seriously. Now we will all pay for Netanyahu’s insane war with higher energy and food prices.
Let’s not minimize the US Republicans culpability here. They bear just as much responsibility for all of this.
There really isn’t any “strait is open” propaganda coming from the US that I’ve seen. Everyone here knows it’s down and out.