Pope Francis has died, the Vatican camerlengo, announces (apnews.com)
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 08:07
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IceFoxX@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 08:20 next collapse

Sad that a piece of shit like j.d. vance was with him before.

AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 08:29 collapse

Didn’t he send another cardinal to lecture Vance?

IceFoxX@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 08:52 collapse

I don’t know, but of course it could be. I had only heard that vance had visited him, which was just as shitty an action as the unwanted visit to Greenland.

AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 09:48 next collapse

It does have a similar vibe to when Liz Truzz killed the Queen

BarrierWithAshes@fedia.io on 21 Apr 10:34 next collapse

Let's hope he lasts as long as Truss did after that too.

NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 18:41 collapse

I imagine if you’re already on your deathbed and you have to listen to some shitty little windbag, it could remove your motivation to hang on.

ripcord@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 12:21 collapse

Yes, it was.

Kyrgizion@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 08:29 next collapse

I wonder if they still tap the dead pope three times with a silver hammer to check if they’re really dead?

molten@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 09:29 next collapse

I’ve seen this one. Resurrected tomorrow.

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 13:57 next collapse

I think it is mandatory. There is a very precise rite to declare a pope as deceased.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 14:08 next collapse

Maxwell’s a Catholic?

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 15:22 collapse

I offered to do it, they weren’t willing to supply ponchos for the audience though so plans fell through.

rosco385@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 09:05 next collapse

I hope he had the chance to tell JD Vance exactly how much of a fuckwit he is before passing.

Schorsch@feddit.org on 21 Apr 09:52 collapse

Well he definitely did have the chance. Let’s hope he used it!

maniclucky@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 11:36 collapse

He did snub Vance, so it’s at least implied.

Rokin@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 09:29 next collapse

I liked that guy.

SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Apr 09:49 next collapse

why the weird commas

ptz@dubvee.org on 21 Apr 10:20 next collapse

<img alt="You’re joking! The Pope?! Oh my god." src="https://tesseract.dubvee.org/image_proxy/files.catbox.moe/ssuwyd.mp4?fallback=true">

BarrierWithAshes@fedia.io on 21 Apr 10:35 next collapse

I'm gonna miss him. One of the best popes of our generation.

InvertedParallax@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 10:43 next collapse

Low bar but he did blow it away.

Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Apr 12:54 collapse

Bar so low we’re limbo-dancing in Hell

NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 18:39 collapse

That’s like saying I just had one of my best shits since my IBS diagnosis.

libra00@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 11:20 next collapse

That title, it has one too many, commas.

thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works on 21 Apr 12:22 collapse

It’s a Walken comma:

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libra00@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 13:32 next collapse

LOL, nice.

“I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell!”

Vandals_handle@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 14:16 collapse

“I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell, commas!

barsoap@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:53 collapse

Makes sense – punctuation is ultimately about signalling pauses and inflection in speech; you can get rather creative if, and only if! so desired.

gressen@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 11:27 next collapse

Did he finally learn who invaded Ukraine, or was he blissfully unaware until his last moments?

Edit: adding /s just in case

ramble81@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 11:59 next collapse

Sucks that he died, but got me thinking. How is the Pope any different from a Dictator? He’s literally one person at the top who has the authority to decide how an entire group of people should think and act and believes he has divine authority to do so?

Mohamed@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 12:37 next collapse

Except that he has no executive power over those people.

cheeseandrice@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 12:44 next collapse

*anymore.

qaz@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 12:45 next collapse

And he is also elected (not by the people, but elected nontheless)

catloaf@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:45 collapse

He has some. He has direct control over church matters, and a lot of people willingly follow the church. So if the church says “no red meat on Fridays”, the people will do that.

eronth@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 06:34 next collapse

Yeah, but not in an enforced way.

Aristoxene@feddit.nl on 21 Apr 19:39 collapse

This is not how it works.

originaltnavn@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 12:47 next collapse

He is elected though? It is not as easy to depose a pope as a president, but there is no military coup, secret police or other things associated with dictatorships.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 17:04 collapse

In his position as pope he has no state power, only spiritual, and in his position as monarch of the Vatican, well there’s only church employees living there and Italy has an eye on things. Generally speaking unless otherwise stated Italian law applies within the Vatican.

Also he’s elected. Not that that means much it means that he’s a mouthpiece of the oligarchs (cardinals) electing him. But while we’re at elected monarchs, there’s one rather curious case: The French president is co-prince of Andorra, that is, their head of state, he shares that position with the local Bishop. Nearly 800 years ago the Andorrans said “yeah let’s not get invaded” and gave the title to the French head of state, then revolution happened, now the French are electing the Andorran head of state.

AJ1@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 13:39 next collapse

That needless comma in the title, is annoying.

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 13:55 collapse

I was taughy any sentence fragment between commas is added, yet not vital, information to a sentence, capable of being removed without taking away any crucial information conveied.

It fits the rules.

And, commas also act as a way to convey the rithym you intend your sentences to be read.

I have a really hard time reading english and not feel rushed to do it.

Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 14:16 next collapse

It’s passive language. It should read: So and so announces, Pope Francis has died.

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:57 collapse

If it were an ordinary sentence used in casual conversation, sure. But for a news headline, it makes sense to put the most important information at the beginning.

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 21 Apr 15:00 next collapse

Pope Francis has died announces

Does this work?

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:03 collapse

It actually doesn’t fit the rules. That comma before “announces” is completely unnecessary and accomplishes nothing. The headline should read,

Pope Francis has died, the Vatican camerlengo announces

pulsewidth@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 13:48 next collapse

Definitely the ‘least bad’ pope of my lifetime. Let’s hope the next one continues the progressive stance he adopted on many aspects of life.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:37 collapse

None of it was real, it was all PR talk. Go to South America as an openly gay person into a church ABS see how progressive they really are.

pulsewidth@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 06:27 collapse

Change takes time and they’ve been anti-gay for a very, very long time. No sane person thinks a single pope solved all the centuries of repression in 10 years.

What I do know is that the conservative Catholics I personally know thought Pope Francis was “too liberal” and “just saying woke things because that’s what young people like nowadays” and those are both endorsements to my ears.

Especially his attitude on climate change and income inequality and tax avoidance by the wealthy - there is a lot of that in conservative church groups and if their God’s PR representative is telling them to cut that shit out and look after the environment better then great.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 11:40 collapse

lol it’s funny if you use the change takes time in politics, people flip out. The democrats got crucified for not changing enough, but the church gets infinite chances and endless forgiveness for their crimes

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 21 Apr 14:09 next collapse

Gonna be some nice crazy shit about the Prophecy of the Popes flying around, this will be interesting to observe.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

*aaaaaaaaaand, there it is:

youtu.be/pm8uIYceGvg

frezik@midwest.social on 21 Apr 15:22 collapse

New pope gets elected, and then the believers will say it was misinterpreted the whole time. This is the standard way.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 21 Apr 15:25 collapse

There does appear to be a built in buffer zone according to some interpretations lol

mhague@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 15:48 next collapse

What are the chances that the Cardinals protest vote two elections in a row and they accidentally elect a decent man again? Can you imagine back to back decent Popes? Not sure if it’s happened in my lifetime.

O_R_I_O_N@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:14 next collapse

Not a chance in hell

kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Apr 19:58 next collapse

I missed which the first decent one was…

Tryenjer@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 09:05 collapse

Most of the current Cardinals who are eligible to vote were chosen by Pope Francis, so I think it is likely that the next Pope will be one willing to continue the path taken by Francis. But I don’t want to be too optimistic.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:37 next collapse

Indigenous person here. GOOD

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:48 next collapse

There are no coincidences in politicas, and the fact that he died immediately after meeting with Vance is highly suspicious. Vance killed him, or someone in his entourage did.

HitlerPig will now demand the Vatican choose his hand-picked candidate, some conservative troll from Wisconsin. Mark my words, soon HitlerPig will be threatening the Catholic Church with removing their tax-exemot status if they don’t install his choice.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Apr 17:47 collapse

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

He was 88.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 00:55 collapse

Yep, nobody would suspect a thing if he suddenly dropped dead. The perfect crime.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 17:49 next collapse

A 5 minute meeting with JD Vance and he was gone.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Apr 17:57 next collapse

Sometimes old people who are declining, die.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 18:36 next collapse

Sometimes, after being exposed to the MAGA mind virus, people give up all hope for humanity and die.

NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 18:36 collapse

And sometimes, small outside factors can relieve or worsen that decline.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Apr 20:54 collapse

I too, die a little every time I see him.

ReiRose@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 19:19 collapse

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theneverfox@pawb.social on 22 Apr 04:31 collapse

Taken right after the handshake <img alt="" src="https://pawb.social/pictrs/image/5671bac1-723c-412b-9550-6910143ea1dd.webp">