China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador (www.ctvnews.ca)
from schizoidman@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 23:14
https://lemmy.zip/post/50798038

cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50798037

Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October

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mrdown@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 23:22 next collapse

Reasonable

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 11 Oct 2025 23:23 next collapse

Sounds like a win-win?

Quilotoa@lemmy.ca on 11 Oct 2025 23:26 next collapse

Seems like a no-brainer. Canada doesn’t have an EV production to speak of. I believe it was originally done to support the U.S. EV industry, but do we really need to be doing that?

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 12 Oct 2025 00:18 next collapse

Oh, was it? If that was the only justification… yeah. Seems like a straightforward play.

Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 00:24 next collapse

Idk, US or US industry has a choke hold on politicians. I feel our politicians has no political will to negotiate against the US.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 12 Oct 2025 00:33 collapse

Maybe the real "elbows up" was the useless neolibs we made along the way.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 12 Oct 2025 06:35 collapse

made sense since us has 100% tariffs on chinese EVs , to prop up the overpriced US evs.

Bunbury@feddit.nl on 12 Oct 2025 05:34 collapse

It might have been the only official justification. However I suspect that there’s unofficial ones, like “we are worried it’ll come with spyware that directly reports everything to China” or “if we do this we might becoming mainly dependent on Chinese cars, which then means China can pull them out from under us, maybe disable them remotely, etc”.

Depends on how much they thought this through and how much they trust China now and in the next few decades.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 12 Oct 2025 06:36 next collapse

cant be any worst than the spyware for the US govt.

Bunbury@feddit.nl on 12 Oct 2025 07:07 collapse

Well ideally I suspect people would just want a product without the spyware.

Quilotoa@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 11:52 collapse

I see your point, however, China is consistent, and it is not nearly so imperialistic as the United States. I’m not sure which one I trust less.

Bunbury@feddit.nl on 12 Oct 2025 22:04 collapse

To me this is a difference between a chaotic type of untrustworthiness and a more stable type of untrustworthiness. Wouldn’t want to pick either if it can be avoided.

HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 11 Oct 2025 23:54 next collapse

I’m fine with that as long as ZERO personal info is transmitted to China.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 00:56 next collapse

Yeah… about that

reddig33@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 02:00 next collapse

But sending your money to China is just fine?

mrdown@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 02:43 next collapse

As fine as other countries buying from the United State who destroyed multiple countries since the end of world war 2

real_squids@sopuli.xyz on 12 Oct 2025 03:05 collapse

Not really, which is why you should buy used

Mihies@programming.dev on 12 Oct 2025 06:08 collapse

I can’t understand why there is no law against that - at least give users a choice. This concern is valid for all cars, not only EVs and not only Chinese.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 00:58 next collapse

As long as they are safety rated for here i guess it’s alright.

bus_factor@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 01:26 next collapse

They export them in droves to Europe, and I’d be very surprised if there’s a single thing on a vehicle which isn’t regulated stricter in Europe than in North America. Maybe emissions in California? Not much emissions from an EV, though.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 01:51 collapse

Yuppers so that part would be fine. I’m not excited about more of my data being sold to another country/company though…

KoboldCoterie@pawb.social on 12 Oct 2025 02:14 next collapse

Got bad news for you if you think any modern car isn’t already doing that. :(

T00l_shed@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 02:44 collapse

Oh I know they are, another reason to keep my older vehicle running

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 03:15 collapse

You think American cars aren’t doing that?

T00l_shed@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 08:10 collapse

No, that’s why I said another country/company

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 03:14 collapse

They sell them in EU, that have higher standards than us.

Mihies@programming.dev on 12 Oct 2025 06:06 collapse

Even though EU has substantial tariffs on them. If we lowered the tariffs or eliminate them, we’d have dirty cheap cars and no more domestic car industry over night.

Bo7a@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 11:33 collapse

I’m asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can’t think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.

Mihies@programming.dev on 12 Oct 2025 12:07 collapse

Ah, sorry, I was referring to the EU, not Canada.

Bo7a@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2025 12:26 collapse

I probably should have noticed that. I’ll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.

frog_meister@lemmings.world on 12 Oct 2025 02:15 next collapse

It’ll never happen.

Westerners don’t like competition.

nutpantz@feddit.online on 12 Oct 2025 02:56 collapse

if canada opened up reasonable access to its market for china. that would make trump and the US not think of canada as its little bitch.
threaten the US with loss of its market in canada to china and they will not think we are their only option. china is opening a huge car factory in mexico, get that for canada.
even just talking to china about it would give us leverage in talks to the USA

CannonFodder@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 12:40 next collapse

Rocking the boat with trump is only asking for more problems. I don’t think we should give in to their stupid demands, but we also shouldn’t be purposely provocative.
We tried getting China to build their EVs here and they wouldn’t agree. They would only do it if they were to be staffed by Chinese nationals that stayed in the facility - ie not providing any Canadian jobs.
On top of this, China wants our canola - they collect tariffs, but that just goes around in a circle in their communist system, it doesn’t stop them buying our stuff.

Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2025 13:19 collapse

China is as good of a friend to Canada as the USA. Both are not trustworthy.