comrade_twisty@feddit.org
on 11 Jun 12:49
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The US being bad does not change anything about Russia.
If your brother murders someone it does not change anything about the fact that your dad raped someone.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Jun 13:17
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It’s such an incredibly childish way of thinking. These people grew up with “Russia bad, Murica good” propaganda, had their minor awakening as they realized the US weren’t in fact the heroes they’d been taught they were, but never actually bothered to unpack the underlying assumption that the world is made of heroes and villains. So instead of figuring out that actually all forms of imperialism suck, they just swapped the heroes and villains in the fairytale because it’s more comforting to live in a world that has unambiguous good guys and bad guys. They want to have a team that they can cheer for and screw it if reality doesn’t agree.
Ffs, I forgot this is social media and the average intelligence is room temperature. Of course, Russia is bad. The point is that there is no fucking outrage when the US declares they’re just going to take an island. In case of Russia’s invasion we had 24/7 rolling coverage and breaking news banners on all news sites
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Jun 15:51
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The point is that there is no fucking outrage when the US declares they’re just going to take an island.
Sorry, what?
treehugger6@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 15:59
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Where is the outrage?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Jun 16:11
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Most people at least those vocal on lemmy claims that it’s only about Israel colonial interests. It is about both
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 11 Jun 13:45
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I guess it can be a bit confusing considering Israel is basically a vassal state of the US, but at times it can be hard to tell who is the tiger and whose is holding it by the tail.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 14:08
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I told you it was always about oil
More broadly, it is about western imperial expansion. Control of the Red Sea. Control of the Suez Canal. The ability to cut China and Russia off from international markets (specifically, trade with India and West Africa).
Oil was a big part of it, but not the whole.
It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests
It’ll be a clean, fast special operation that definitely won’t lead to a protracted ground war.
Iran will be taken by complete surprise, since they didn’t expect it.
Just a couple of helicopters with some special forces guys who go in at night, and in the morning Iran’s leadership will surrender, apologize and build a Trump Hotel in Tehran.
I’m sure of it!
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 11 Jun 13:40
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For sure, it’s not like America has a long history of fucking up amphibious landings or helicopter based airborne operations. Grenada had like 1500 dudes armed with sks defending it and they only lost like 10 helicopters. Surely it won’t be worse than that…right?
To be fair, there are also examples where a daring helicopter raid lead to an end of the war -
Like Mogadishu.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 11 Jun 13:58
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Helicopters naturally understand that army personnel belong on the ground, and their natural instinct is to get them there in the fastest possible way.
Ain’t nobody getting me to fly in something that relies on a “Jesus nut”.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 11 Jun 14:17
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Thousands of moving parts on an air vehicle that doesn’t have any glide capacity, being flown by a pilot that’s significantly younger than the airframe… What could possibly go wrong? I guess at least it’s not an osprey?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 14:20
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Fuck it. Send in a squadron of BUFF. We’ve never lost any of those.
The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it’s nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.
This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
– Harry Reasoner
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
on 11 Jun 14:56
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helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
Nowadays helicopter pilots seem to just be riding the copium that is autorotation.
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I don’t want to hear about ‘Russia bad’ EVER AGAIN!!!
Russia bad. The united snakes bad
Nations bad.
The US being bad does not change anything about Russia.
If your brother murders someone it does not change anything about the fact that your dad raped someone.
It’s such an incredibly childish way of thinking. These people grew up with “Russia bad, Murica good” propaganda, had their minor awakening as they realized the US weren’t in fact the heroes they’d been taught they were, but never actually bothered to unpack the underlying assumption that the world is made of heroes and villains. So instead of figuring out that actually all forms of imperialism suck, they just swapped the heroes and villains in the fairytale because it’s more comforting to live in a world that has unambiguous good guys and bad guys. They want to have a team that they can cheer for and screw it if reality doesn’t agree.
Ffs, I forgot this is social media and the average intelligence is room temperature. Of course, Russia is bad. The point is that there is no fucking outrage when the US declares they’re just going to take an island. In case of Russia’s invasion we had 24/7 rolling coverage and breaking news banners on all news sites
Sorry, what?
Where is the outrage?
Are you not outraged?
Well, nobody believes that they will do it. TACO
Then get Russia to stop being bad.
I told you it was always about oil . It was always not only about israel colonial interests but also american imperialist interests
I mean… Israeli colonial interests and American imperialist interest are kinda the same thing.
Most people at least those vocal on lemmy claims that it’s only about Israel colonial interests. It is about both
I guess it can be a bit confusing considering Israel is basically a vassal state of the US, but at times it can be hard to tell who is the tiger and whose is holding it by the tail.
More broadly, it is about western imperial expansion. Control of the Red Sea. Control of the Suez Canal. The ability to cut China and Russia off from international markets (specifically, trade with India and West Africa).
Oil was a big part of it, but not the whole.
They’re joined at the hip.
It’ll be a clean, fast special operation that definitely won’t lead to a protracted ground war.
Iran will be taken by complete surprise, since they didn’t expect it.
Just a couple of helicopters with some special forces guys who go in at night, and in the morning Iran’s leadership will surrender, apologize and build a Trump Hotel in Tehran.
I’m sure of it!
For sure, it’s not like America has a long history of fucking up amphibious landings or helicopter based airborne operations. Grenada had like 1500 dudes armed with sks defending it and they only lost like 10 helicopters. Surely it won’t be worse than that…right?
To be fair, there are also examples where a daring helicopter raid lead to an end of the war -
Like Mogadishu.
Helicopters naturally understand that army personnel belong on the ground, and their natural instinct is to get them there in the fastest possible way.
Ain’t nobody getting me to fly in something that relies on a “Jesus nut”.
Thousands of moving parts on an air vehicle that doesn’t have any glide capacity, being flown by a pilot that’s significantly younger than the airframe… What could possibly go wrong? I guess at least it’s not an osprey?
Fuck it. Send in a squadron of BUFF. We’ve never lost any of those.
/s
The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it’s nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.
This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
– Harry Reasoner
Nowadays helicopter pilots seem to just be riding the copium that is autorotation.
i love my sks. always fond of its history.
Same, my yugo is what I used to use to train friends who are new to rifles. Just wish 7.62 was cheap and easy to find as it used to be.
nice. mine is a chinese version. but yeah. cleaned up well. i still have a ton of 762 but dont hit the range often.
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Obviously they’re doing this to protect the world from Iran using nuclear weapons. I cannot think of any other reason. Just like Venezuela.
He’s going to get a lot of service members killed to gain nothing
naa. he’ll gain profit. his cronies will gain profit. this is what war is always about
Not at all. Their lives will delay any consequences Trump may face for raping all those children.
Good luck with that one. Even if they do go through with this threat, have fun holding it.
Ahhh. 😌 Another fine example of the United States liberating a country. Long live democracy!!