Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Mar 13:41
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just wait till they are doing it to blue cities, or do whatever they were doing to do with those bioweapon lab network uncovered in vegas a month ago and seems to have been swept out of the news
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Mar 17:36
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yeah, that really scare the shit out of me, what the hell is the purpose? the owner has 750 airbnb properties so this was not small potatoes and well financed with hired chinese chemists
For a very long time, the US military has prided itself on performing surgical strikes with the least amount of civilian casualties and collateral damage as possible. Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.
Allowing Israel to lead and dictate our military operations (as stated by Trump and US officials) in any way, is leaving us soaked in blood and with a stain that won’t clean off for a very long time.
nogooduser@lemmy.world
on 03 Mar 12:20
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Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.
That wasn’t the case at the start of the Gaza genocide. They used to say how good they were at targeting and that they only did precision strikes.
Then I guess that they realised that nobody believed them but they weren’t going to do anything about it anyway so they stopped pretending.
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world
on 03 Mar 15:30
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Brother they can say whatever they want, we’ve had 60 years worth of evidence before their new Gaza campaign even started.
Not in a long time. “Ever” for that stain tongonaway, you’d need to clean all the blood you already have in your hands. Keep cheering up for your veteran war criminals whose only repercussions have been selfminflictednwhen they can’t live anymore with the things they’ve done.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
on 03 Mar 11:29
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American sitouts: meh, both parties are the same. (Continues holding breath)
That is an unverifiable, unfalsifiable non sequitur that has nothing to do with the fact that American meddling and plunder in the Middle East enjoys bipartisan support. When it comes to the Middle East, yes: both sides are the same.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 03 Mar 19:20
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On the contrary, you know what’s an unverifiable and unfalsifiable non sequitur? Your apparent claim that a Democrat president would have invaded Iran.
Also, pointing out that Democratic presidents have continued wars started by their Republican predecessors is completely different from claiming that they would have unnecessarily began new wars if they had been in power at those times. Your point does not substantiate the claim you’re trying to make.
Parsi also shared video of a distraught woman who described an apparent so-called “double-tap” strike, a common tactic used by the US, Israel, and other militaries in which an initial bombing is followed up with a second one in a bid to kill and injure survivors and first responders.
“They killed everyone,” the woman said of the attackers. “They dropped the first bomb, then when people went to help, they dropped another bomb.”
Bombing schools, gymnasiums, hospitals, carpet bombing cities… Mark Carney do you still support this?
_Nico198X_@piefed.europe.pub
on 03 Mar 12:35
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utterly insane. wtf are they thinking?
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca
on 03 Mar 12:55
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I don’t understand why there hasn’t been more of a response to his remarks (that I’ve seen anyway). I was appalled when he said it, but it seems like people are either ignoring it or trying to explain it away.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world
on 03 Mar 13:23
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No need to wait. I condemn them now.
chellomere@lemmy.world
on 03 Mar 17:49
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This is pure propaganda. Let me explain.
All friends and family we have contact with within Iran are not afraid of any strikes and describe the attacks as highly targeted. There is no “carpet bombing”.
The article cites NIAC, a propaganda piece of the IRGC, as a source, of which Trita Parsi is the head. All first-hand sources are directly controlled by the Islamic regime. The article even cites Hezbollah (!!!). I think this is very telling regarding overall credibility. Of course they have an interest in showing as high numbers of dead innocent civilians as possible.
Let’s say the number 500 over 4 days is correct. Of course this is tragic, but compare that to the 40 000 slaughtered by the Islamic regime on Jan 8-9. Iranians against the regime, which are the vast majority, see the US-Israeli attacks not as a start of the war but as a continuation of a war against the regime that has already started. The Iranians were screaming for foreign intervention, not because they necessarily like it, especially by the US and Israel, but because they see it as a necessity to get rid of the regime. Iranian civilians have tried and failed to get rid of the regime, because they lack weapons.
Iranians in general are pleased with the strikes on the leaders of the regime, there have especially been much celebration of the ayatollah being killed, but there is also a worry regarding what the war may bring, especially as they know that the US and Israel don’t have the best interest of the Iranian people in mind.
I’m not denying people are being killed. I’m saying there is some collateral damage but it’s probably a lot less than reported. In all conflicts there will unfortunately be some innocent people that die, this is impossible to avoid.
And yes, Iranians approve and even celebrate the attacks against the regime, of which they see themselves as hostages of. There are plenty of videos showing this. You should try talking to some actual Iranians.
Here’s a video of people calmly watching fires from burning buildings hit by missiles. They trust that they are not in danger, the strikes are precise.
Over 100 school girls killed. “Collateral damage” that the people are happy, ecstatic , thrilled to give.
No.
You are falling for Israel propaganda friend.
These people are not happy to be getting bombed.
Only a complete dimwit would believe videos being shown on fox and cnn and then circulated on Instagram, are real Iranians cheering that their children are being bombed. That their cities are being bombed by Israel and the U.S. (weird how none of the women in these videos are wearing hijabs).
It’s playing on this idea that the u.s is the white savior.
We aren’t. And we never ever have been.
Regardless if most of the Iranian people wanted their leader gone or not, they aren’t cheering being pulled into a war where their civilians are targeted.
Think about how much you hate Trump.
Do you think you would be on the streets right now celebrating if Russia came here and bombed the piss out of D.C and killed a bunch of kids and civilians. But they also got Trump. And then after they killed him they also continued to bomb other cities. ?!
No really. Would you be cheering and say.
“Well that’s collateral damage.”?
Use your head.
You’re deliberately misrepresenting what I’m saying.
Regarding the school attack, it is not clear who were the perpetrators and all information is from regime media. UNESCO has initiated an investigation into it and we will see what the conclusion is.
Oh of course you will say the perpetrators are still unclear, what a mystery! Who knows who might be bombing people during the american strike that was announced with months of anticipation , it might be anyone, right? Those kids could have vaporized themselves right?
The udefinable other is so prone to violence these things just happen in their domain right? The CIA just needs to arm them like they are doing openly with the Kurdish right now and with how american government officials openly stated there was mossad agents intervening with previous outbursts of violence.
Disgusting, just disgusting. America is a country of home to the most barbaric nazi psychopaths.
Sources: The Guardian (UK state propaganda), Time Magazine (not a serious source), Iran International (lol). The lower end estimates are much more plausible.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 03 Mar 18:34
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So far I’ve heard official statements saying “The goal of this is to bring about Armageddon so that Jesus can return,” and “there won’t be any stupid rules of engagement.” Both from SecDef.
Meanwhile the official white house statement is that “the full scope and duration of military operations” is unknown.
This is literally an act of world sabotage by the doomsday cult in charge of the world’s most powerful military…
I’m gonna be sick…
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today
on 04 Mar 11:40
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Every American household has a gun, but not a single spine in sight.
Go do something pussy Americans.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 04 Mar 14:01
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You don’t understand very much if you think any singular individual with a gun can simply “do something” about the military-industrial complex and militarized police force.
Lone wolf attacks don’t accomplish shit but bad PR. Actuality doing something effective would take a level of organization and coordination that doesn’t exist and may even be impossible due to the surveillance state and even just the fractured state of american society.
Even a well-ordered movement wouldn’t have the firepower to match what they’re up against. Virtually limitless federal budget, armored vehicles, a monopoly on everything bigger than a rifle, thousands of centrally-organized personnel, etc.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today
on 04 Mar 14:34
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What’s the point of having guns then?
Americans should give up their guns, at least less children will be sacrificed to Baal
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 04 Mar 15:33
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You’ll have to take that question up with the gun nuts who are actively supporting fascism. I can’t speak on their behalf…
You haven’t heard of guerilla war? It has worked elsewhere. In fact, it has worked against the US.
I really would prefer it doesn’t come to that. However, the midterms will tell the world if that’s the only option.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 04 Mar 15:50
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I’m sure the average keyboard warrior will be able to engage in those tactics effectively if it comes to that. And I’m sure that wouldn’t just result in even worse devastation on a far greater scale.
Regardless, at least we seem to agree that we should wait and see how midterms play out before taking any drastic measures…
Keyboard warrior who went to Ukraine seems to be holding the line.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
on 04 Mar 17:13
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the above commenter, or someone else online, signed up for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and has been honorably serving to repel the russian invasion?
Cause if so, good on them. But that doesn’t exactly change the dynamic in the US. Ukrainian forces are centrally organized, with material support and intelligence sharing from a coalition of western allies. They have military-grade hardware, even though the US has been trying to reduce their supply. The reduction of which has been shown to have resulted in tactical and strategic setbacks.
There’s no chance of the same situation applying in the US, where there would also be no clear frontline but rather a protracted insurgency, rather than conventional warfare between two sovereign state actors.
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wow this is way worse than i thought
just wait till they are doing it to blue cities, or do whatever they were doing to do with those bioweapon lab network uncovered in vegas a month ago and seems to have been swept out of the news
theconversation.com/an-illegal-bioweapons-lab-was…
This one?
yeah, that really scare the shit out of me, what the hell is the purpose? the owner has 750 airbnb properties so this was not small potatoes and well financed with hired chinese chemists
Now this is strange times we live in man.
For a very long time, the US military has prided itself on performing surgical strikes with the least amount of civilian casualties and collateral damage as possible. Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.
Allowing Israel to lead and dictate our military operations (as stated by Trump and US officials) in any way, is leaving us soaked in blood and with a stain that won’t clean off for a very long time.
That wasn’t the case at the start of the Gaza genocide. They used to say how good they were at targeting and that they only did precision strikes.
Then I guess that they realised that nobody believed them but they weren’t going to do anything about it anyway so they stopped pretending.
Brother they can say whatever they want, we’ve had 60 years worth of evidence before their new Gaza campaign even started.
You spelled “ever” wrong.
Not in a long time. “Ever” for that stain tongonaway, you’d need to clean all the blood you already have in your hands. Keep cheering up for your veteran war criminals whose only repercussions have been selfminflictednwhen they can’t live anymore with the things they’ve done.
American sitouts: meh, both parties are the same. (Continues holding breath)
Blumaga: “American meddling in the Middle East is a new phenomenon that was invented solely by Republicans”
A Democrat in the white house wouldn’t have invaded Iran…
That is an unverifiable, unfalsifiable non sequitur that has nothing to do with the fact that American meddling and plunder in the Middle East enjoys bipartisan support. When it comes to the Middle East, yes: both sides are the same.
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On the contrary, you know what’s an unverifiable and unfalsifiable non sequitur? Your apparent claim that a Democrat president would have invaded Iran.
Also, pointing out that Democratic presidents have continued wars started by their Republican predecessors is completely different from claiming that they would have unnecessarily began new wars if they had been in power at those times. Your point does not substantiate the claim you’re trying to make.
Do show me where I made this claim.
It was implicit in your original reply, don’t play dumb as if no one can read subtext.
Both sides are the same because both sides are controlled by AIPAC
Bombing schools, gymnasiums, hospitals, carpet bombing cities… Mark Carney do you still support this?
utterly insane. wtf are they thinking?
Of course he does! And he always will.
I don’t understand why there hasn’t been more of a response to his remarks (that I’ve seen anyway). I was appalled when he said it, but it seems like people are either ignoring it or trying to explain it away.
History will condemn us all
No need to wait. I condemn them now.
This is pure propaganda. Let me explain.
All friends and family we have contact with within Iran are not afraid of any strikes and describe the attacks as highly targeted. There is no “carpet bombing”.
The article cites NIAC, a propaganda piece of the IRGC, as a source, of which Trita Parsi is the head. All first-hand sources are directly controlled by the Islamic regime. The article even cites Hezbollah (!!!). I think this is very telling regarding overall credibility. Of course they have an interest in showing as high numbers of dead innocent civilians as possible.
Let’s say the number 500 over 4 days is correct. Of course this is tragic, but compare that to the 40 000 slaughtered by the Islamic regime on Jan 8-9. Iranians against the regime, which are the vast majority, see the US-Israeli attacks not as a start of the war but as a continuation of a war against the regime that has already started. The Iranians were screaming for foreign intervention, not because they necessarily like it, especially by the US and Israel, but because they see it as a necessity to get rid of the regime. Iranian civilians have tried and failed to get rid of the regime, because they lack weapons.
Iranians in general are pleased with the strikes on the leaders of the regime, there have especially been much celebration of the ayatollah being killed, but there is also a worry regarding what the war may bring, especially as they know that the US and Israel don’t have the best interest of the Iranian people in mind.
So you are saying the bombing isn’t actually killing anyone and the Iranians actually approve of their cities being bombed.
How stupid do you think people are?
Genuine question.
I’m not denying people are being killed. I’m saying there is some collateral damage but it’s probably a lot less than reported. In all conflicts there will unfortunately be some innocent people that die, this is impossible to avoid.
And yes, Iranians approve and even celebrate the attacks against the regime, of which they see themselves as hostages of. There are plenty of videos showing this. You should try talking to some actual Iranians.
Can you provide these videos?
Most prominently, here’s videos from within Iran, celebrating the death of Khamenei:
www.iranintl.com/en/202603012558
Here’s a video of happy people watching explosions from their roof:
www.instagram.com/reel/DVWWwYKFVEJ/
More excitement:
www.instagram.com/reel/DVVtg3XCoE4/
Excited people stated they hit Khamenei’s palace:
www.instagram.com/reel/DVTV4B0FXdA/
Here’s a video of people calmly watching fires from burning buildings hit by missiles. They trust that they are not in danger, the strikes are precise.
www.instagram.com/reel/DVbmtmSE7Dt/
Edit: another video:
www.instagram.com/reel/DVWEZJZjsYl/
Evidence is not a bunch of instagram posts and an article by a known Saudi propaganda outlet.
Over 100 school girls killed. “Collateral damage” that the people are happy, ecstatic , thrilled to give.
No.
You are falling for Israel propaganda friend.
These people are not happy to be getting bombed.
Only a complete dimwit would believe videos being shown on fox and cnn and then circulated on Instagram, are real Iranians cheering that their children are being bombed. That their cities are being bombed by Israel and the U.S. (weird how none of the women in these videos are wearing hijabs).
It’s playing on this idea that the u.s is the white savior.
We aren’t. And we never ever have been.
Regardless if most of the Iranian people wanted their leader gone or not, they aren’t cheering being pulled into a war where their civilians are targeted.
Think about how much you hate Trump. Do you think you would be on the streets right now celebrating if Russia came here and bombed the piss out of D.C and killed a bunch of kids and civilians. But they also got Trump. And then after they killed him they also continued to bomb other cities. ?!
No really. Would you be cheering and say. “Well that’s collateral damage.”? Use your head.
Don’t fall for the lies.
Imaginary Iranians: “I am so glad little girls are blown to pieces in the name of the american’s discourse about democracy.”
You’re deliberately misrepresenting what I’m saying.
Regarding the school attack, it is not clear who were the perpetrators and all information is from regime media. UNESCO has initiated an investigation into it and we will see what the conclusion is.
Oh of course you will say the perpetrators are still unclear, what a mystery! Who knows who might be bombing people during the american strike that was announced with months of anticipation , it might be anyone, right? Those kids could have vaporized themselves right?
The udefinable other is so prone to violence these things just happen in their domain right? The CIA just needs to arm them like they are doing openly with the Kurdish right now and with how american government officials openly stated there was mossad agents intervening with previous outbursts of violence.
Disgusting, just disgusting. America is a country of home to the most barbaric nazi psychopaths.
I find it completely unbelieveble that the Iranian government was able to exceed the peak daily death toll in the Holocaust
Well, then I invite you to read some on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025–2026_Iranian_protests
Sources: The Guardian (UK state propaganda), Time Magazine (not a serious source), Iran International (lol). The lower end estimates are much more plausible.
So far I’ve heard official statements saying “The goal of this is to bring about Armageddon so that Jesus can return,” and “there won’t be any stupid rules of engagement.” Both from SecDef.
Meanwhile the official white house statement is that “the full scope and duration of military operations” is unknown.
This is literally an act of world sabotage by the doomsday cult in charge of the world’s most powerful military…
I’m gonna be sick…
Every American household has a gun, but not a single spine in sight.
Go do something pussy Americans.
You don’t understand very much if you think any singular individual with a gun can simply “do something” about the military-industrial complex and militarized police force.
Lone wolf attacks don’t accomplish shit but bad PR. Actuality doing something effective would take a level of organization and coordination that doesn’t exist and may even be impossible due to the surveillance state and even just the fractured state of american society.
Even a well-ordered movement wouldn’t have the firepower to match what they’re up against. Virtually limitless federal budget, armored vehicles, a monopoly on everything bigger than a rifle, thousands of centrally-organized personnel, etc.
What’s the point of having guns then?
Americans should give up their guns, at least less children will be sacrificed to Baal
You’ll have to take that question up with the gun nuts who are actively supporting fascism. I can’t speak on their behalf…
To hold off the red coats, apparently.
The In’juns could attack at any moment!
You haven’t heard of guerilla war? It has worked elsewhere. In fact, it has worked against the US.
I really would prefer it doesn’t come to that. However, the midterms will tell the world if that’s the only option.
I’m sure the average keyboard warrior will be able to engage in those tactics effectively if it comes to that. And I’m sure that wouldn’t just result in even worse devastation on a far greater scale.
Regardless, at least we seem to agree that we should wait and see how midterms play out before taking any drastic measures…
Keyboard warrior who went to Ukraine seems to be holding the line.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the above commenter, or someone else online, signed up for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and has been honorably serving to repel the russian invasion?
Cause if so, good on them. But that doesn’t exactly change the dynamic in the US. Ukrainian forces are centrally organized, with material support and intelligence sharing from a coalition of western allies. They have military-grade hardware, even though the US has been trying to reduce their supply. The reduction of which has been shown to have resulted in tactical and strategic setbacks.
There’s no chance of the same situation applying in the US, where there would also be no clear frontline but rather a protracted insurgency, rather than conventional warfare between two sovereign state actors.