Eh, not sure that’s what the article is getting at. It’s more so that Jews have been persecuted and don’t want to give up their land… but they don’t support how Bibi has gone about everything
metaStatic@kbin.social
on 24 May 2024 07:26
nextcollapse
But also a bit of awkward silence, as a european who’s grandparents, when I think about it retroactively, suspiciously often bashed jews as part of a casual conversation, and who’s grandparents used to utter a german word here or there, despite not living anywhere near germany or austria, oh jesus christ, am I a nazi descendant? 😮
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 08:19
nextcollapse
Not at all. Even more “left” israelis are throwing a hissy fit this week when Spain, Ireland and Norway recognised Palestine. They all want to keep expanding the Lebensraum, not just “keep their land”.
The move is “disgraceful”, he added, saying it was the product of a “crisis”, in reference to the policies of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government.
veganpizza69@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 09:09
collapse
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 09:12
collapse
Sorry sir posting MondoWeiss is illegal here because they are “Anti Zionist” which is literally worse than the Nazis.
Fine quotes from the article
For many years, this liberal, leftist image served to mask the systemic destruction the kibbutzim were part of. But now, the masks are falling. In a long interview in Haaretz, the secretary general of the Kibbutz movement, Nir Meir, who has been heading it for nine years, says it’s time to drop that leftist pretense. “The right[wing] is correct”:
“The settlers aren’t wrong. The right is correct: That is the way to seize and hold land, and their claim that, any place we Israelis leave, the Arabs will come in our place, is correct. The right is also correct in its path: It’s by settlement and only by settlement that sovereignty can be imposed. The debate is whether sovereignty should be imposed. The settlements claim that they are the successors to Kibbutz Hanita [on the Lebanon border], because, just as in the Tower and Stockade days [a method of establishing new settlements during the period of the British Mandate], you [need to] conquer hill after hill without consideration for the law and you create facts on the ground. They [the settlers] learned from us how to settle and seize land. The argument with them is not about the way or the method, but about the intention and the goal.”
Siegfried@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 12:32
collapse
Racism is bad
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 08:17
nextcollapse
Hitler bad, Holocaust good - israelis.
SteefLem@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 08:38
nextcollapse
“……explains whats driving public opinion”
Thinking you’re better then the other….
veganpizza69@lemmy.world
on 24 May 2024 09:04
collapse
tl.dr.: driven by propaganda and a persecution complex or Jingoism
Israel’s path forward is unclear, and it will be influenced by a few issues. An increase in public pressure on Netanyahu may force him eventually to take responsibility for not preventing the Oct. 7 attack and resign.
Israel’s dilemma is that you can’t have both:
An ethnonationalist (ethnic apartheid) state.
Liberal democratic state with human rights and rule of law.
threaded - newest
Most Israelis dislike Netanyahu, but support genocide
Eh, not sure that’s what the article is getting at. It’s more so that Jews have been persecuted and don’t want to give up their land… but they don’t support how Bibi has gone about everything
Top Kek
This.
But also a bit of awkward silence, as a european who’s grandparents, when I think about it retroactively, suspiciously often bashed jews as part of a casual conversation, and who’s grandparents used to utter a german word here or there, despite not living anywhere near germany or austria, oh jesus christ, am I a nazi descendant? 😮
Not at all. Even more “left” israelis are throwing a hissy fit this week when Spain, Ireland and Norway recognised Palestine. They all want to keep expanding the Lebensraum, not just “keep their land”.
Kibbutz leader confirms movement’s role in establishing and maintaining Israeli apartheid
Sorry sir posting MondoWeiss is illegal here because they are “Anti Zionist” which is literally worse than the Nazis.
Fine quotes from the article
Racism is bad
Hitler bad, Holocaust good - israelis.
“……explains whats driving public opinion” Thinking you’re better then the other….
tl.dr.: driven by propaganda and a persecution complex or Jingoism
Israel’s dilemma is that you can’t have both:
Pick one.