MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de
on 06 Mar 12:01
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How can you talk about this, when there’s an ongoing genocide in Gaza? /s
It’s actually very sad, that a lot of harm could be prevented here, if it got even a tenth of the Gaza media coverage. But here it’s not Jews killing Arabs, but Arabs killing Africans. For some reason the left often turns a blind eye to Arab violence. And the right doesn’t care because they are killing Africans.
At least that’s my theory. It certainly also has something to do with Cameras and free press being a lot less common in Sudan. That leads to less pictures and videos, which leads to less social media engagement.
Maybe someone should tell trump that there is gold in Sudan. Maybe that’ll get some intervention. He seems to be very trigger happy as of late.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
on 06 Mar 12:21
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Countries don’t really care about Gaza either, they care about Israel and because they care about Israel there is a counter-movement to care about Gaza, some of it financed by geopolitics, which makes it into the news cycle.
Imperialism, or a sternly worded letter? Choose your preference. The UN is present and has condemned what is happening in Sudan, and this article literally cites them as a source. Presumably they are no one, so no one cares.
The left lol… Hitler was opposed to Christianity… He got along better with Muslims and Palestinians…
Gaza, the first genocide with a growing population… There has never been a genocide like this before.
However, when it comes to calling for genocide against Jews, only Israel is mentioned. (No one wants to be associated with Nazis.)
The US and Europe: Jews are afraid and are being hunted, while pro-Palestinians are terrorizing the US and Europe.
They arent anti war they are pro genozid…
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
on 06 Mar 12:34
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So, because governments aren’t listening to protesters about an unrelated genocide, this genocide is somehow protesters fault? Feels like you’re just reaching for a way to be racist towards Arabs.
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world
on 06 Mar 15:13
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Bro, I’m Palestinian and I can say the Sudanese people are as arab as anyone in the peninsula. When it comes to the Gaza genocide, sudanese people try more than any Arab nationality to aid, whether it be boycotting or donating.
If they could currently be doing anything about the massacre in their country, they would be. Most are going back and getting their family out of there, if they hadn’t already don’t that.
It’s talked about because Israel’s genocide is being done with our support and our weapons, and that support is clearly because of bribes and blackmail.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Mar 16:27
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People protest about the genocide in Palestine because there is a demand for the imperialists to leave, meanwhile protesting about the genocide in Sudan would do nothing but convince the imperialists to come in thus making it worse.
jjpamsterdam@feddit.org
on 06 Mar 12:33
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It’s so frustrating that we are living through an active genocide (again) and doing absolutely nothing (again). In my youth, when there wasn’t yet a 24 hour news cycle and I learned about the genocide in Rwanda as a teenager, it was my naive belief at the time that a lack of knowledge was the main reason for the general indifference in “the West”. A year later the genocide in Bosnia, especially the massacre at Srebrenica, was headline news in my home country of the Netherlands and yet people seemed to collectively just shrug that off just as quickly as it happened. Now, many years later, I’ve become much more cynical. If you want people to care about unjustified murder you should either make sure to have your country located really really close to “the West”, but even that is just of limited use to Ukraine, or make sure that the killing happens to take place at the hands of mostly Jewish people, although most Palestinians can attest to the fact that while media attention is good, action is still lacking.
felykiosa@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Mar 14:34
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I understand your complain to a state level but not to individual level ,like even if I hate genocide and that make me sick I can t do anything again it , unfortunately
How willing have you been to go and put your life on the line to stop these atrocities? If you’re not willing to, why should others?
If none of the individuals in a democratic country are eager to go die to prevent the atrocities, then why would you think a democratic country would take action to force individuals to go die to try and prevent a genocide?
And in this particular case, international trade with Sudan is at like 3% of their GDP – they don’t really trade with anyone, so its not like democratic countries can be all “smarten up, or else no more [x]!”
The UN at one point in the past had a decent peace keeping force function, that’d go and assist such regions. But the UN has basically been kneecapped by both authoritarian non-democratic countries having veto powers, and by the USA overtly defunding all its programs as of late.
And the US is now participating eagerly in war crimes / crimes against humanity – they’re the ‘supposed’ leader of the democratic west, but they actively encourage genocides like in Israel. The people of the USA voted for it. They’re ‘democratically’ in favour of encouraging genocides. Your opinion in the broader democratic environment, if you’re American, is in the minority. And part of living in a democracy is accepting the will of the majority, which happens to be in favour of genocides.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 06 Mar 16:17
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When has the human race ever cared about a genocide, absent some material reason to do so?
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Mar 16:32
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There’s much less direct military funding and support fueling Sudan so most people have no real outlet or mechanism for addressing it beyond support for humanitarian aid efforts and the UN.
There’s not an easily identified or direct policy that can be pointed at, as if an actor were receiving billions direct military aid and support. Like, even Israel is split on which side they’re supporting. Ukraine and Russia alike have supported opposition to the RSF.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 07 Mar 02:23
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okay so let me get this straight. it’s up to me to sort out the fascism in my home country, stop the genocide in sudan, stop the genocide in gaza, stop the genocide in ukraine, stop the genocide in china, would you also like a pony sir? what ever happened to a people’s responsibility of self determination that y’all keep throwing in my face whenever i mention that the orange fuckface has become an international problem and it’s time to start employing economic sanctions to try reining in the united states? y’all stop your own genocides.
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How can you talk about this, when there’s an ongoing genocide in Gaza? /s
It’s actually very sad, that a lot of harm could be prevented here, if it got even a tenth of the Gaza media coverage. But here it’s not Jews killing Arabs, but Arabs killing Africans. For some reason the left often turns a blind eye to Arab violence. And the right doesn’t care because they are killing Africans.
At least that’s my theory. It certainly also has something to do with Cameras and free press being a lot less common in Sudan. That leads to less pictures and videos, which leads to less social media engagement.
Maybe someone should tell trump that there is gold in Sudan. Maybe that’ll get some intervention. He seems to be very trigger happy as of late.
Countries don’t really care about Gaza either, they care about Israel and because they care about Israel there is a counter-movement to care about Gaza, some of it financed by geopolitics, which makes it into the news cycle.
Imperialism, or a sternly worded letter? Choose your preference. The UN is present and has condemned what is happening in Sudan, and this article literally cites them as a source. Presumably they are no one, so no one cares.
The left lol… Hitler was opposed to Christianity… He got along better with Muslims and Palestinians… Gaza, the first genocide with a growing population… There has never been a genocide like this before. However, when it comes to calling for genocide against Jews, only Israel is mentioned. (No one wants to be associated with Nazis.) The US and Europe: Jews are afraid and are being hunted, while pro-Palestinians are terrorizing the US and Europe.
They arent anti war they are pro genozid…
So, because governments aren’t listening to protesters about an unrelated genocide, this genocide is somehow protesters fault? Feels like you’re just reaching for a way to be racist towards Arabs.
Bro, I’m Palestinian and I can say the Sudanese people are as arab as anyone in the peninsula. When it comes to the Gaza genocide, sudanese people try more than any Arab nationality to aid, whether it be boycotting or donating.
If they could currently be doing anything about the massacre in their country, they would be. Most are going back and getting their family out of there, if they hadn’t already don’t that.
It’s talked about because Israel’s genocide is being done with our support and our weapons, and that support is clearly because of bribes and blackmail.
People protest about the genocide in Palestine because there is a demand for the imperialists to leave, meanwhile protesting about the genocide in Sudan would do nothing but convince the imperialists to come in thus making it worse.
It’s so frustrating that we are living through an active genocide (again) and doing absolutely nothing (again). In my youth, when there wasn’t yet a 24 hour news cycle and I learned about the genocide in Rwanda as a teenager, it was my naive belief at the time that a lack of knowledge was the main reason for the general indifference in “the West”. A year later the genocide in Bosnia, especially the massacre at Srebrenica, was headline news in my home country of the Netherlands and yet people seemed to collectively just shrug that off just as quickly as it happened. Now, many years later, I’ve become much more cynical. If you want people to care about unjustified murder you should either make sure to have your country located really really close to “the West”, but even that is just of limited use to Ukraine, or make sure that the killing happens to take place at the hands of mostly Jewish people, although most Palestinians can attest to the fact that while media attention is good, action is still lacking.
I understand your complain to a state level but not to individual level ,like even if I hate genocide and that make me sick I can t do anything again it , unfortunately
How willing have you been to go and put your life on the line to stop these atrocities? If you’re not willing to, why should others?
If none of the individuals in a democratic country are eager to go die to prevent the atrocities, then why would you think a democratic country would take action to force individuals to go die to try and prevent a genocide?
And in this particular case, international trade with Sudan is at like 3% of their GDP – they don’t really trade with anyone, so its not like democratic countries can be all “smarten up, or else no more [x]!”
The UN at one point in the past had a decent peace keeping force function, that’d go and assist such regions. But the UN has basically been kneecapped by both authoritarian non-democratic countries having veto powers, and by the USA overtly defunding all its programs as of late.
And the US is now participating eagerly in war crimes / crimes against humanity – they’re the ‘supposed’ leader of the democratic west, but they actively encourage genocides like in Israel. The people of the USA voted for it. They’re ‘democratically’ in favour of encouraging genocides. Your opinion in the broader democratic environment, if you’re American, is in the minority. And part of living in a democracy is accepting the will of the majority, which happens to be in favour of genocides.
Keep in mind you’re on a site where a solid number of users might downplay or relativise Srebrenica.
What are other African nations doing about it?
Not sending weapons to the RSF
What is the world supposed to do? Invade?
Uhh, yes, actually.
When has the human race ever cared about a genocide, absent some material reason to do so?
There’s much less direct military funding and support fueling Sudan so most people have no real outlet or mechanism for addressing it beyond support for humanitarian aid efforts and the UN.
There’s not an easily identified or direct policy that can be pointed at, as if an actor were receiving billions direct military aid and support. Like, even Israel is split on which side they’re supporting. Ukraine and Russia alike have supported opposition to the RSF.
okay so let me get this straight. it’s up to me to sort out the fascism in my home country, stop the genocide in sudan, stop the genocide in gaza, stop the genocide in ukraine, stop the genocide in china, would you also like a pony sir? what ever happened to a people’s responsibility of self determination that y’all keep throwing in my face whenever i mention that the orange fuckface has become an international problem and it’s time to start employing economic sanctions to try reining in the united states? y’all stop your own genocides.
What!? Do you not even care about climate change? Why do you hate nature?