from IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2025 15:41
https://lemmy.world/post/25267817
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Iran’s supreme leader said Friday that negotiations with America “are not intelligent, wise or honorable” after President Donald Trump floated nuclear talks with Tehran.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also suggested that “there should be no negotiations with such a government,” but stopped short of issuing a direct order not to engage with Washington.
Khamenei’s remarks upend months of signals from Tehran to the United States that it wanted to negotiate over its rapidly advancing nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of crushing economic sanctions worth billions of dollars.
Khamenei noted that Trump unilaterally withdrew from the earlier nuclear deal under which Iran drastically limited its enrichment of uranium and overall stockpile of the material, in exchange for crushing sanctions being removed.
“The Americans did not uphold their end of the deal,” Khamenei said. “The very person who is in office today tore up the agreement. He said he would, and he did.”
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Not intelligent, wise, or honorable. Yeah that about sums up the Trump admin.
Yeah. At the same time, pot meet kettle
Iran elected a more moderate president. Then Israel bombed the Hamas leader at the presidents inauguration.
Iran’s “President” is a figurehead with no real power. Having one be more “moderate” would not change the country’s direction, regardless of whether the US bombed it or not.
Their Supreme Leader (chosen by a closed council) is the one who actually sets policy and has effectively full control, then their president follows those policies.
Its not chosen by a closed council Lying to simple people is all you do huh ? Go worship trump you fascist idiot
Just elected by a Guardian council that is in turn either appointed by the supreme leader or the Chief justice who is also appointed by the supreme leader. Pretty clearly a circular relationship. Nice name calling, though.
Not interested in discussing with a fascist
lol, ok.
Lol you think im joking kid ? How old are you ? Also the text you have shown doesnt have any link to a safe resource And well people can easily know and i will say it People choose certain officers And then those officers will choose the leader Which is indeed this guy Finished i dont have time for a retarded person who copies from capitalism sources and tells me to read it without any safe source or anything
Did the supreme leader steal your punctuation keys? You’re clearly trolling, enjoy your imminent ban.
Oh trolling huh ? A few seconds ago some capitalism guys told me the same Hahaha as i said captalism people have potato brains And yeah just like you potato head im not trolling or anything Im being HONEST
I’m a socialist but go off.
I SAID I DONT HAVE TIME FOR A KID REPOETED BLOCKED.
Finally found that period key, nice work!
It’s a theocracy. They basically copied the Vatican model. An
assembly of ExpertsConclave of Cardinals, chosen by TheSupreme LeaderPope convenes to elect theSupreme LeaderPope in absolute secrecy. The thing is, looking back at the last 20 years of American politics, the US is not that different, only it’s a Plutocracy. American politicians threw away any pretense of working for, or serving, the people a long time ago.Agreed on all points
The president did promise to revert many of the more conservative laws and extended an olive branch in exchange for sanction relief. Which was quickly set ablaze.
The Iranian President runs the day to day governance. The Grand Ayatollah focuses on the bigger picture.
I know. That doesn’t change the fact that Khamenei is an oppressive autocrat, and power ultimately doesn’t preside with the presidency there.
You convinced me. There is no other solution than to bomb Irans nuclear sites and power infrastructure. Also take out a few dams and grain silos while we are at it to really liberate those oppressed people.
I didn’t advocate for any of that. All I did was point out Iran’s leadership also sucks.
They tried to suck less and then America put a knife in their back. Which is not very encouraging.
I was not happy when Trump unilaterally pulled out of the deal; I have wondered if Hamas’ October 7th attack even happens if rapprochement with Iran continued rather than what ended up happening, but I am also not convinced Iranian leadership was much interested in changing much beyond getting sanctions relief. US actions aren’t the reason why they’re oppressive to women and LGBT folks or why they’re supplying arms to Russia in aid of their invasion of Ukraine. Maybe the latter would be different if Russia wasn’t one of their only options for trading partners, it’s tough to say.
US actions are partially the reason though. The population could have changed if it was not being actively convinced not to do so.
Instead of moderates, hardliners became more popular because of the constant US threat, refusing to normalize, and not holding up its end of deals.
Iran has a long history of US and European meddling and stealing their oil since 1953. You might not understand but they have plenty of reason to fear the US. And they have been betrayed many times when they let their guard down.
It would be akin to asking why Ukrainians do not love Russian culture after Russia invaded their country and bombed them.
I know about the CIA/MI6 backed coup in ‘53. I think it definitely led to the revolution, but I also feel that revolution was co-opted by autocratic religious extremists.
I think the crackdowns during the protests that came in the wake of Mahsa Amini’s murder support my view that they’re autocratic. They have taken no concrete steps to improve women’s rights, and any and all presidential candidates must be approved by the Ayatollah so they’re really just controlled opposition at best.
Don’t interpret any of this as saying the US has any moral high ground to stand on, because what bits of American policy I have been proud of are rapidly evaporating.
I have not followed recent developments much but I recall the new president partially aborting the new headscarf law. apnews.com/…/iran-mandatory-headscarf-hijab-law-p…
Whether this was followed up on I do not know.
Go look at the context as he’s saying it makes no sense to negotiate with the guy who tore up the last agreement which Iran was honoring.
While I agree with him in this specific context, I don’t find Khamenei intelligent or honorable either, which is why I said what I said.
For once I agree with the Iranians. Not Wise, Honorable, or Intelligent. Sums Trump up perfectly.
Dude I live in iran ALL of iranians hate khamenei and support usa and israel Iranians are such cruel demons So dont say you agree with iranians Because they are the worst in this world So dont forget iranians are different than khamenei This guy is a pretty cool guy
Can you speak more to that? Why is there such a difference in perspective between average Iranians and Khamenei?
Because khamenei defends gaza and fights against usa and israel And if you look at the words which iranians say in social medias its all like this : Kill people in gaza they are arabs Which is racism And the do Defend trump and usa gov Which is just a satanic way of life Thats all my dear
Can you say why Iranians dislike Arabs or why they support USA/Israel, and why Khamenei supports Palestine and not USA/Israel? I'm trying to understand why this difference exists. I really am not educated at all on this part of the world (that's my ignorance, but I am curious about your experiences).
Is it really as simple as racism or are there socioeconomic concerns? For example, many people in my country (Canada) hate immigrants because it's difficult to find a good-paying job or an affordable apartment due to suppressed wages, lack of domestic manufacturing, and a very bad housing crisis. It's easier to just blame immigrants for coming here than to convince the government to help us more directly.
Why does this difference exist ? There is not a why on this And i recognize your account its the second time you defend capitalism But this time you gone in a more hideous way Wages do not matter if the money is being used to help people who are getting BOMBED People were dying in palestine And all iranians (which you are also an iranian i do recognize your account)
LMAO! What? Bro, that's crazy to hear since I'm a staunch socialist. But whatever! I guess you are the wrong person to talk to about this.
Also, I'm a born and raised Canadian with no Iranian heritage. I am mostly English and French-Canadian. Who do you think you are?
Well i dont have time for you You iranians tend to say you are from eu or america But a little analysis can show how dumb you capitalists are Because canadian people arent haters Like you They dont spread hate the one who spreads hate is iranians Blocked
I am not Iranian. Why would I even bother talking to you about Iranians if I was Iranian? Christ... get a fucking brain cell.
Sorry baby i just got a little angry Listen idk why idk what is the reason When ever you ask them they will just make fun of you or yell at you They are just like capitalists Im pretry sorey for what i did forgive me :p
Will you forgive me ? Oh please forgive me
But let me tell you something I live in iran And our people are indeed really evil Only our gov is good All of our people were like: kill people in gaza they are arabs And they would defend usa like an idiot Its just so damn annoying I did think about it And i think its because of porn Porn intake is incredibly high in iran And men are all wild in here they do rape a lot of people For example i had a friend who got raped three times I feel sad for him And yes did you see the stuff about prostitutes and pirn increasing in social medias ? Im sure this porn is the reason people will loose their mind
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Lmao
I didnt even enter those communities Fake pictures huh ? I see but still your brain is only a potato :D
You can see the modlog any time you want, kiddo.
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All menkind are of parts of eachother And canada’s people are not like that at all Dont spread wrong data’s The only people who spread hate this much Are iranians Thats all i dont have time for you
Dude, I fucking was born and raised here. You don't know anything about us if you think we're not racist assholes.
You can use google translate and search the famous social media in iran Which is instagram Well go and you will see with your own eyes I dont like it when people think im a liar
I don't doubt you, I'm just trying to get your perspective on why these differences exist. But maybe that's me acting entitled to information from a random person and I would be better off watching a documentary or something.
Documentary written by who Hahah see its obvious you arent a candian You want to read documents written by big companies which are funded by capitalists And your question is unreasonable Evil is evil There is no reason and no EXECUSE for being EVIL. FINISHED
I'm sitting in my apartment in Ontario, Canada right now sipping coffee. I don't even know who you are. All I wanted was information about Khamenei and Iranian people.
Welcome to the club.
When Iran is calling you out for being an idiot, you know you done fucked up.
This guy is pretty cool This is his website khamenei.ir
I guess its better for everyone to come and live in iran At least its safer than a country controlled by MANIACS like elon musk and trump
I hate having to agree with this fuck but yeah he ain’t wrong.
“Con . .se . . whatses??”
Idk, I feel like the iran leader and trump are on the same scale, IQ wise …
Check out his website khamenei.ir
Each language points to an entirely different website. Most with completely different topics. Interesting.
Why would Iran enter into negotiations with a country that failed to honor them the last time?
Trump is making people agree with the people we don’t like due to their stance on people.
Can this be any worse?
You know it can be with these stupid fucks in charge
ya…that’s going to be the general theme in foreign affairs. from now on… lots of face palms.
Yeah, you tell 'em… uh… *checks notes*… Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?
Even Iran? What world do we live in?
Unless you’re Israel, the US are backstabbers at the best of times.
Save us, Iran. Please.