This is what the State is afraid of: not that people will protest Israel’s actions, but that the left might organize trans-nationally and demand better from their governments.
They’ve been happy to let the political Right metastatize because at least fascism can be good for business, but they’re terrified of the rest of us realizing the we have the numbers and that the rich need us more than we need them.
They had a narrow escape in 2008 and spent the last decade and a bit stoking culture wars. The last thing the west wants is it’s own Arab Spring.
That’s an argument I often make. At its fundamental core capitalism will never survive without the workers to support it … whereas humans survived millennia without any form of organized capitalism.
It’s not the 'ism’s that produce the capital. It’s the laborers. The 'ism’s just dictate who gets the benefits.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
on 27 Apr 01:22
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If only there was a body of literature explaining the theoretical underpinnings of Marxism.
I don’t mean to be a dick. Gramsci is a bit of a tough read but his works are worth reading (or even just getting a summary of). Marx is a philosopher who never did any of the evils of communism. He (and Engels) simply described capitalism and then some ideas on what to change. Were they correct? I don’t know. But I do know my most conservative Econ professors assigned us Marx readings because you cannot understand economics without understanding Marx.
Understanding multiple frameworks (even those you think are wrong) is healthy. I think Ayn Rand blows goats compared to Adam Smith and Marx but I still read enough of her bullshit to know I disagreed. Adam Smith hated absentee landlords more than Marx did.
Edit: I changed Kant to Adam Smith to keep on topic.
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This is what the State is afraid of: not that people will protest Israel’s actions, but that the left might organize trans-nationally and demand better from their governments.
They’ve been happy to let the political Right metastatize because at least fascism can be good for business, but they’re terrified of the rest of us realizing the we have the numbers and that the rich need us more than we need them.
They had a narrow escape in 2008 and spent the last decade and a bit stoking culture wars. The last thing the west wants is it’s own Arab Spring.
Who is terrified of what? Which numbers? Why do the rich need us so bad? What about, for example, the 1/2 voting shit like Trump?
Rich people need blue & white collar workers and poor people to continue to work or else the economy stops.
That’s an argument I often make. At its fundamental core capitalism will never survive without the workers to support it … whereas humans survived millennia without any form of organized capitalism.
It’s not the 'ism’s that produce the capital. It’s the laborers. The 'ism’s just dictate who gets the benefits.
If only there was a body of literature explaining the theoretical underpinnings of Marxism.
I don’t mean to be a dick. Gramsci is a bit of a tough read but his works are worth reading (or even just getting a summary of). Marx is a philosopher who never did any of the evils of communism. He (and Engels) simply described capitalism and then some ideas on what to change. Were they correct? I don’t know. But I do know my most conservative Econ professors assigned us Marx readings because you cannot understand economics without understanding Marx.
Understanding multiple frameworks (even those you think are wrong) is healthy. I think Ayn Rand blows goats compared to Adam Smith and Marx but I still read enough of her bullshit to know I disagreed. Adam Smith hated absentee landlords more than Marx did.
Edit: I changed Kant to Adam Smith to keep on topic.
This was an informative take, thank you. I often struggle with understanding the “big picture” of economics and this was helpful, at least to me.
What good is protesting?
Movement building.