Credit cards cancelled, Google accounts closed: ICC judges on life under Trump sanctions (www.theguardian.com)
from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to world@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 07:17
https://lemmy.nz/post/34601249

When the Canadian Kimberly Prost learned Donald Trump’s administration had imposed sanctions on her, it came as a shock.

For years, she has sat as a judge at the international criminal court, weighing accusations of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity; now she is on the same list as terrorists and those involved in organised crime. “It really was a moment of a bit of disbelief,” she said.

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Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Feb 07:55 next collapse

That’s why we need an alternative to US credit cards yesterday. And also a spine transplant to politicians.

abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub on 21 Feb 08:03 next collapse

It’s not just cards. Many banks today require using a mobile app for online banking, and those apps require an Apple- or Google-certified device and an Apple or Google account. While it is possible to open those accounts under a false name (the apps are free so you don’t need to enter payment info), this is still an absurd amount of leverage the US has on everyday people’s activities in other countries.

Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Feb 08:08 next collapse

Yes, that too. However, you have alternatives to Android to some degree that would allow a banking app to work. Nevertheless, we need a non-US operating system for mobile devices and so on.

abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub on 21 Feb 08:38 collapse

Not if an app uses Play Integrity. The entire purpose of Play Integrity is to not work on anything that is not a Google-certified OS.

Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Feb 08:55 collapse

Yes, that’s why I said to some degree. I didn’t test it, but at least some banking apps work from what I hear. I plan to test it soon.

phx@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 18:52 collapse

All my banks have apps but I haven’t found any that don’t support just a browser

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today on 21 Feb 19:44 collapse

Yeah, I got credit cards and bank apps available. But I use the browser for all of them.

throws_lemy@lemmy.nz on 21 Feb 08:34 collapse

Not only US credit cards, we also need online payment alternatives. And the most annoying thing is the google play services requirements for every single app, just like this one as an example

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atropa@piefed.social on 21 Feb 08:54 next collapse

Try aurora store , iam on graphene

OS ,banc apps work

Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Feb 08:56 collapse

They isolate your app, right. That is good enough for me for an interim period.

elmicha@feddit.org on 21 Feb 09:04 next collapse

In Europe there’s WERO which was started to replace Paypal. It’s still in its infancy though.

throws_lemy@lemmy.nz on 21 Feb 09:30 next collapse

In our country, we use QR code payments. Currently, we have agreements to use this payment method with several countries in Asia. But it’s still infuriating because most online payment and banking apps require Google Play Services.

TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz on 21 Feb 20:31 collapse

Infancy? At the very least, it’s already learned to walk. According to Wikipedia, within 14 months of its launch, 43.5 million users were registered.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club on 21 Feb 12:21 collapse

It’s usually because they use Google for notification services

plyth@feddit.org on 21 Feb 12:59 next collapse

The EU commission can do the same. Some people agree since there are strong Russian connections. But canceling the ability to pay without a judical verdict is wrong. feddit.org/post/26079160

My fear is that this will come to anybody who is inconvenient to those in power.

we_all_live_in_a_capital_i@lemmy.ca on 21 Feb 13:50 collapse

Sometimes sanctions have to be swift, like sanctioning Russian oligarchs or manufacturers supporting the war. But there should be repercussions for sanctions imposed in bad faith or to intimidate.

plyth@feddit.org on 21 Feb 14:26 collapse

There must also be a minimum of monthly allowed funds for food and shelter. Those sanctions will come for regular citizens and at worst they will be imposed by an AI for comments on the internet, for anything the EU doesn’t like.

Iamcanadian@piefed.ca on 21 Feb 14:06 next collapse

I’d like to know what the Canadian government and the EU are going to do about this.

D_C@sh.itjust.works on 21 Feb 16:12 next collapse

It’s weird, I don’t want to sanction an ICC judge. Let’s have a look why that is…

Hmmm, the only thing I can think of is that maybe it’s because I’m not an international criminal?
So, by that logic, anyone who sanctions an ICC judge must therefore be an international criminal.

tirateimas@lemmy.pt on 21 Feb 16:15 next collapse

Perhaps these actions will start opening people’s eyes to the lack of alternatives and to the massive power that controlling financial and technological tools provides.

rushmonke@ttrpg.network on 21 Feb 18:14 next collapse

Wouldn’t have this problem with Monero.

HubertManne@piefed.social on 21 Feb 19:26 collapse

ill be a judge and take these “punishments” where their Xitter and facebook accounts canceled to

ThunderQueen@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 19:31 collapse

Just cancel your accounts…???

HubertManne@piefed.social on 21 Feb 19:46 collapse

woosh. I don’t have some of those.