Lawmaker, she’s a MEP.
So at least the European Parlament should issue a statement.
BiglyFlyBye@piefed.zip
on 02 Apr 23:00
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What in the world, why does Israel control what people say? So weird
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Apr 23:11
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Israel is the West’s last great colonial settler project so there has always been a predilection to turning a blind eye to international law in relation their geopolitical affairs. Far right authoritarians are often chummy with Netanyahu because he is living their colonial dream of genocide and displacement.
Why do they control what people say? I’m not sure it goes that far. But the cultural bias apparently runs deep enough in the West to ruin people’s lives over it if they dissent.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social
on 03 Apr 00:15
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Why do they control what people say? I’m not sure it goes that far.
Pretty sure that’s the sole purpose of the Anti-Defamation League
Virtually is in this case. US, Canada, UK, France, Germany, and many more countries literally defend Isreali’s right to starve children to death in front of our eyes. Violemtly and vehemently. All of the heavy hitters. Who in the west stands opposed? Maybe a tepid Spain? A few hundred years removed from relevance?
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
on 03 Apr 04:43
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On this matter I’m afraid it has been for at least half a century. Some of the loudest and most self righteous voices when it comes to international law become tepid or mute on this particular violation of it.
If you say it’s because Zionist Jews have money and wield it like a hammer you’re ‘antisemitic.’ But also correct.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 03 Apr 04:18
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Absolutely not. Zionists have a lot of money, but most of those Zionists are not in fact Jews. Western imperialists see their interests aligning with Israel, so they support it with money and influence; it's really that simple. Thinking Israel controls the West is like thinking the hammer controls the carpenter because he doesn't want it stolen.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world
on 02 Apr 23:08
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Only anti-Semites confuse anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism.
Israeli people seen to have embedded themselves in almost every (large) countries politics.
It’s also being noticed and will no doubt cause a massive push back.
You are the one linking it to an entire religion. Zionists have long pre-dated Israel and have had significant power. That’s literally why Israel exists!
terabyterex@lemmy.world
on 03 Apr 02:42
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Not the most fab sources but I’m travelling and have barely a bar of signal
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 03 Apr 04:12
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Hell no they didn't. Hitler and crew didn't need any help massacring everything that moved, and they were backed by German moneyed interests (you know, the people that stood to gain from his rule), not a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the first place, WWII didn't contribute nearly as much as you'd expect to the creation of Israel; if anything it made the British acquiesce to Palestinian demands to secure their support. WWII was the culmination of European great power politics; besides, interwar Poland was one of Zionists' most important patrons, and its loss almost destroyed the whole project.
The term #terrorist and #terrorism can easily been manilpulated fot the unjustified arrest.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net
on 03 Apr 00:48
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This whole thing is Orwellian, but nothing more so imo than when stories like this report that someone was arrested for speech but doesn’t actually tell us what the offending speech was.
I think it’s pretty obvious that they know that they’ll get in trouble with the same people if they share the message. It’s quite sad.
lennybird@lemmy.world
on 03 Apr 00:52
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What was the actual comment she made?
terabyterex@lemmy.world
on 03 Apr 02:45
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She justified the terrorist attack in 1972 at an Israeli airport
Rima Hassan, a French far-left member of the European Parliament, was arrested on Thursday over a comment she posted on X last month about an attack on an Israeli airport in the 1970s, her fellow party member Jean-Luc Melenchon said.
The message was related to the 1972 attack by the Japanese Red Army far-left militant group at Lod airport in Tel Aviv, which resulted in 26 deaths.
It seems the media may not know what her exact comment was yet.
I mean, how many civilians are the IDF shooting in Gaza per day now? Especially with their new execution law?
Why are we supposed to get worked up about 26 deaths over 50 years ago given that context?
Yossarian@programming.dev
on 03 Apr 08:10
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Why not both?
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
on 03 Apr 03:41
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You can join the IDF to commit genocide (and call for people to do so in synagoges), but woe to anyone praising the resistance.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 03 Apr 04:19
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I don't believe in arrests for speech, but justifying shooting up an airport is not my idea of anti-imperialism. Unless the case is being misrepresented, in which case fuck whoever made this arrest.
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Lawmaker, she’s a MEP.
So at least the European Parlament should issue a statement.
What in the world, why does Israel control what people say? So weird
Israel is the West’s last great colonial settler project so there has always been a predilection to turning a blind eye to international law in relation their geopolitical affairs. Far right authoritarians are often chummy with Netanyahu because he is living their colonial dream of genocide and displacement.
Why do they control what people say? I’m not sure it goes that far. But the cultural bias apparently runs deep enough in the West to ruin people’s lives over it if they dissent.
Pretty sure that’s the sole purpose of the Anti-Defamation League
You keep referring to “the West” like it’s a single monolithic entity.
Virtually is in this case. US, Canada, UK, France, Germany, and many more countries literally defend Isreali’s right to starve children to death in front of our eyes. Violemtly and vehemently. All of the heavy hitters. Who in the west stands opposed? Maybe a tepid Spain? A few hundred years removed from relevance?
On this matter I’m afraid it has been for at least half a century. Some of the loudest and most self righteous voices when it comes to international law become tepid or mute on this particular violation of it.
If you say it’s because Zionist Jews have money and wield it like a hammer you’re ‘antisemitic.’ But also correct.
Absolutely not. Zionists have a lot of money, but most of those Zionists are not in fact Jews. Western imperialists see their interests aligning with Israel, so they support it with money and influence; it's really that simple. Thinking Israel controls the West is like thinking the hammer controls the carpenter because he doesn't want it stolen.
Only anti-Semites confuse anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism.
No. Only Zionists confuse the two.
Zionists deliberately confuse Zionists with Jews, putting Jews at risk. Deliberately putting Jews at risk is antisemitism. Zionists are antisemites.
No doubt this stemmed from here middleeasteye.net/…/policing-thought-french-bill-…
Israeli people seen to have embedded themselves in almost every (large) countries politics. It’s also being noticed and will no doubt cause a massive push back.
Is this what happened in the lead up to WW2? Obviously without the existence of the state of Israel
No, the Jewish people did not exert nearly the same influence as Israel does today despite the propaganda of the time claiming otherwise.
Is there any way to verify that now? My understanding is that Zionists bankrolled the war to accelerate the creation of official state of Israel
To be frank this theory you are positing is absurd.
Did a disparate group of people connected by religion have the same influence as the entire modern state of Israel? Absolutely not.
You are the one linking it to an entire religion. Zionists have long pre-dated Israel and have had significant power. That’s literally why Israel exists!
Are you fucking sick in the head?
How is that your understanding? What information or sources did you base that on?
I’m out and about right now but I’m surprised you don’t know about the Haavara agreement and the ongoings of banks at the time
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
nytimes.com/…/IHT-deutsche-bank-admits-it-helped-…
Not the most fab sources but I’m travelling and have barely a bar of signal
Hell no they didn't. Hitler and crew didn't need any help massacring everything that moved, and they were backed by German moneyed interests (you know, the people that stood to gain from his rule), not a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the first place, WWII didn't contribute nearly as much as you'd expect to the creation of Israel; if anything it made the British acquiesce to Palestinian demands to secure their support. WWII was the culmination of European great power politics; besides, interwar Poland was one of Zionists' most important patrons, and its loss almost destroyed the whole project.
Zionists were at work well before WW2, which is where the Nazis were actively helping set up the beginnings of Israel
Zionists took the wealth of Jews in Germany and did not let them take it to Palestine. This funded efforts leading to and including WW2
The empire wears no clothes
lol, those assholes won’t let you in if you had a DUI 20 years ago.
Fuck 'em, stay out and go spend your money in Mexico, it’s a much nicer place.
Yep and I fully support banning people with reckless behaviour that endangers Canadian lives.
Stop sending the drunkards down here I guess? Every Canadian I’ve encountered in the 'states is a fucking mess…
They let the pitching coach of the Toronto Blue Jays in.
The term #terrorist and #terrorism can easily been manilpulated fot the unjustified arrest.
This whole thing is Orwellian, but nothing more so imo than when stories like this report that someone was arrested for speech but doesn’t actually tell us what the offending speech was.
I think it’s pretty obvious that they know that they’ll get in trouble with the same people if they share the message. It’s quite sad.
What was the actual comment she made?
She justified the terrorist attack in 1972 at an Israeli airport
jfc I’m getting so tired of news not including the critical information
reuters.com/…/french-far-left-member-european-par…
It seems the media may not know what her exact comment was yet.
I mean, how many civilians are the IDF shooting in Gaza per day now? Especially with their new execution law?
Why are we supposed to get worked up about 26 deaths over 50 years ago given that context?
Why not both?
You can join the IDF to commit genocide (and call for people to do so in synagoges), but woe to anyone praising the resistance.
I don't believe in arrests for speech, but justifying shooting up an airport is not my idea of anti-imperialism. Unless the case is being misrepresented, in which case fuck whoever made this arrest.
We require headlines match the original, I’ll give you time to fix it before removing it.
“After Montreal trip blocked, Rima Hassan arrested in France over social media post”
not a great rule considering how much clickbait even reputable news outlets engage in these days… can see it a bit even in this one…