‘Grave moment’: end of US-Russia nuclear pact comes at worst possible time, UN chief warns (www.theguardian.com)
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António Guterres urges two powers to quickly sign new deal as New Start expires

The UN secretary general, António Guterres, has urged the US and Russia to quickly sign a new nuclear arms control deal, as the existing treaty expired in what he called a “grave moment for international peace and security”.

The last nuclear treaty between the two powers, the New Start agreement, ended on Thursday, formally releasing both Moscow and Washington from a raft of restrictions on their nuclear arsenals and triggering fears of a global arms race.

“For the first time in more than half a century, we face a world without any binding limits on the strategic nuclear arsenals of … the two states that possess the overwhelming majority of the global stockpile of nuclear weapons,” Guterres said in a statement on Wednesday.

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CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works on 05 Feb 03:48 next collapse

What’s stopping Russia from having just ignored the deal anyway?

MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 03:59 next collapse

Canadian geese.

suddenlyme@lemmy.zip on 05 Feb 04:00 next collapse

Agree. They don’t follow agreements like this

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz on 05 Feb 04:14 next collapse

I haven’t looked into this particular agreement, but historically arms treaties included verification, limited by what both parties would accept for verification. IIRC, since neither country wanted to let foreign inspectors into their ICBM silos, SALT had the US and USSR dismantle ICBMs where satellites could see.

prex@aussie.zone on 05 Feb 08:32 collapse

They won’t follow when its in their interest but if they can’t/don’t anyway then its better to get a deal so the US doesn’t too.

breakfastmtn@piefed.ca on 05 Feb 04:02 next collapse

They’d at least be limited by having to hide the fact that they’re ignoring the deal. And they realistically wouldn’t be able to hide much from US intelligence. I can’t imagine avoiding international outrage being a huge motivator for them at this point but they probably don’t want the US and Europe being even more motivated to destroy the Russian economy or increasing military support for Ukraine.

jldg89@piefed.social on 05 Feb 07:55 collapse

As if they cared about international outrage

Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works on 05 Feb 05:56 next collapse

Don’t got no money. I genuinely don’t think they can afford to build too many new nukes.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 19:41 collapse

they already have 1000x more nukes than they need to burn the Earth.

TheOctonaut@mander.xyz on 05 Feb 06:58 collapse

What a weirdly specific question. What’s stopping America?

CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works on 05 Feb 14:42 collapse

Given that Russia is a dictatorship, Putin can do whatever he wants; and because Putin was the ex head of the KGB, he has the best knowledge on how to run large operations in complete secrecy.

Compared to America, the US has had better self regulation, and is also pretty bad at keeping secrets.

What’s stopping America? Self regulation (in the past), and that someone would have blown the whistle if something was going on; so we probably would have heard about it by now.

Thats why I didn’t ask why either of them would follow this deal; but specifically why not Russia

MutantTailThing@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 04:35 next collapse

Oh look more fear porn. I don’t even give a fuck anymore, blow it all to hell.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Feb 09:48 collapse

We need a new start for New Start!

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