Stephen Miller ramps up Trump threats to take over Greenland (www.theguardian.com)
from throws_lemy@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 13:08
https://reddthat.com/post/57608814

One of Donald Trump’s top aides has ramped up the pressure on Denmark by questioning Copenhagen’s claim to Greenland.

Stephen Miller, the US president’s deputy chief of staff for policy, also claimed military intervention would not be needed to take over the Arctic territory because “nobody is going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland”.

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Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org on 06 Jan 13:37 next collapse

Get Kirked.

zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jan 21:37 collapse
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 13:41 next collapse

His Wife is brown lol. What a weird broken idiot

He lives on a military base because he’s a scared little chicken shit. Someone in the military could “fix this little problem” for us and our lives would all improve

Kirp123@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 13:57 next collapse

He lives on a military base because someone wrote with chalk on the sidewalk next to his previous house.

village604@adultswim.fan on 06 Jan 14:33 next collapse

What a snowflake

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:06 next collapse

Damn. Scary antifa shit there.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 07 Jan 21:02 collapse

Likely in a bunker with Eva.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 06 Jan 16:17 collapse

“Lieutenant, inventory reports we’re missing a fragmentation grenade.”

“…Maybe we’re not, and should check again Staff Sergeant.”

“…Understood, sir.”

(Timeline improves)

AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 13:50 next collapse

Goebbels-lite needs a short drop and a sudden stop.

Headofthebored@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 16:16 collapse

I don’t think enough soviet-style poisonings happen in this country.

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jan 19:37 collapse

The man needs some rice n beans

Coach@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 14:26 next collapse

Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein.

nforminvasion@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 17:36 collapse

Ehh, mostly minerals and shipping lanes in a warming world

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 06 Jan 14:42 next collapse

also claimed military intervention would not be needed to take over the Arctic territory because “nobody is going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland”.

Has this argument ever worked? Every war US has fought, has been against much weaker target (especially Islamic groups), yet the “target” pretty much always fights back. Why would anyone bend over to getting invaded or captured?

shalafi@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 20:01 collapse

He’s absolutely correct. There’s not 60,000 people there and a third of those are in one city. Greenland has the least dense population of any country. We’re hardly going to get bogged down fighting natives with hunting rifles. Also, insurgency is rather impossible in a frozen wasteland. At least Simo Häyhä had trees to snipe from.

Europe isn’t going to cross the Pond and start shit if we take Greenland. They’re barely standing up to the Russian monster in their backyard, they’re hardly going to defend our backyard. We’ll get kicked out of NATO, but that’s a goal of this administration. Win win.

All of NATO would have to pull together to storm across the Atlantic, and the US would watch that buildup in real time. God only knows what would happen then, but I’d guess a US first strike.

In any case, the US would seed the Atlantic with every hunter-killer sub we got. Europe wouldn’t be able to sneak a kayak across.

Pretty fucking bleak situation.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 06 Jan 20:11 next collapse

Oooor Europe can siege all the US bases in our territory and see if the US people wants to have the soldiers going back home in plastic bags.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 21:33 next collapse

You have a monster breathing down your neck, in your own backyard, and you Europeans are too cowardly to do anything about it. But you will, somehow, find the gumption to besiege American military bases?

Some of you people have the geopolitical sophistication of a 6th grader.

TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id on 07 Jan 09:45 collapse

Spoken like someone who’s never seen the destruction of war before.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:08 collapse

Please do.

realitista@lemmus.org on 06 Jan 23:39 next collapse

NATO without the USA has 5x the troops capable of operating in Greenland level cold and 10x the equipment capable of the same. Yes the US would be able to seize parts, but holding them would be far more difficult. It would look something like Viet Nam IMO.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 01:48 collapse

Think NATO will cross the Atlantic and do something about it? Serious question. You’re talking capability, and you’re probably right on the question of winter fighting (damned interesting!), but I’m talking will.

But let’s drop the comparison to Vietnam, or any other American fuck ups. To get into such another quagmire, NATO would have to get troops there in the first place. And again, not like they can hide in Greenland’s vast jungles. Honestly, I don’t know of a fair wartime comparison? Who has invaded a monstrous rock and who has tried to defend it across an ocean? We’re all in new territory, and maybe that’s the scariest thing.

For all intents and purposes, Greenland in an uninhabited rock, on our side of the world, with strategic minerals and positioning, and NATO has done jack shit to defend their own eastern front. And let’s not forget Putin pushing for all this, and getting his way. We’re taking it and I am scared shitless of what comes next.

realitista@lemmus.org on 07 Jan 08:15 collapse

I really don’t know TBH, but I certainly hope so. If they don’t, their goose is cooked as everyone will know that NATO is toothless at that point.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 07 Jan 01:47 next collapse

They’d have to nuke it to kill everyone. And if you don’t then people will fight back.

Maybe America will win but not a single occupying soldier will be able to sleep unguarded for fear of being murdered in their sleep, not to mention terrorist attacks in America.

America hasn’t ever won a war where it wasn’t assisted massively by a cohort of other countries, except when the other other belligerent was also America, and even then it lost half of them.

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 07 Jan 01:56 collapse

Remind me - when did “terrorist” attacks in US spike, supply lines targeted, and Americans generally being on edge knowing some groups from Middle East are out to get them?

Now, that was with small portion of Middle East. Now we’re talking about pissing off entirety of European Union and anyone who works for NATO and has capabilities to fuck shit up. I guarantee you people will risk their lives to fuck up your life (well, not yours specifically, but you get the idea - anger towards Americans) if you try to take steal from me or my friends/allies

I never meant my comment as an open war, but rather … well, quite literally people fighting back in every way they can.

notsosure@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jan 15:56 next collapse

pride comes before a fall

whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jan 18:06 next collapse

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Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub on 06 Jan 18:31 next collapse

Using Steve’s logic he’d okay with a larger, stronger man grabbing him, pulling his panties down, and coring out his rectum. It’s just power dynamics pal.

Mirshe@lemmy.world on 08 Jan 12:16 collapse

By his logic, that one DOGE kid that allegedly got assaulted by a bunch of teens deserved it because he couldn’t fight back.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 20:06 next collapse

These are not threats, these statements are prepping to world for the eventuality.

From a previous comment:

Global warming makes Greenland prime real estate. As it warms, prospecting and mining become easier, and it will soon guard year-round Artic sea lanes. With enough warming it may become attractive for farming and living space.

They learned from Hitler’s mistake of not immediately storming the Caucasus oil fields before starting further shit. Guess what we just did? I’ll give you three guesses, but you’re only going to need one.

ameancow@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:52 collapse

and it will soon guard year-round Artic sea lanes. With enough warming it may become attractive for farming and living space.

Sure Greenland is going to be prime real estate due to climate change, but people like Miller are going to be long dead by then. And I don’t think this crew in charge of the white house are so altruistic and concerned for the future of America that they want to secure resources for a century or two down the road.

Besides, we have much bigger concerns if Greenland melts than if we have land to settle.

It’s far more likely some kind of Russia-connected plot for strategic positioning.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 01:38 collapse

Yes, it’s Putin who wants this! But taking Greenland is still in America’s best interest, from a strategic point of view, current world politics and near-term consequences be damned.

As to the future of America, I’m starting to see the light, starting to see how truly dangerous these people’s long-term vision is. Trump is all simple-minded greed, but Project 2025 and the like is far worse.

These people truly believe in a Nazi vision of a 3rd Reich. They want to etch their names in history books. They truly think they’re doing what’s right for America, now and in the future. Don’t all dictators?

My only hope is that, like Hitler, giddy on success, they bite off more than they can chew.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jan 20:36 next collapse

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P1nkman@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 21:33 next collapse

I want to give Steven Miller an award for being honest! The ceremony will take place in Auschwitz, where work will make you free. And please, step inside this chamber, where there’s an additional gift for you.

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:20 next collapse

So in another post, I said that Denmark/Greenland should make a photo of his wife in a Denmark prison with the words “soon” to mimic her image of USA owning Greenland

I think I have a better idea though.

Does anyone know where Stephen Miller lives now after being chased away by chalk drawings in front of his old house?

Denmark should send someone there and use chalk to draw the Denmark/Greenland flag in front of their house.

They’ll be so terrified of ever leaving their house again.

Boiglenoight@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:45 collapse

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/…/684748/

NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 00:19 collapse

Oh man, think of the international incident if a chalk flag appeared on his driveway on a military base! He’d have to move to a black-site no one knows exists to be safe!

finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:24 next collapse

In quiet, reflective moments, Miller muses on his past.

“I was happy strangling babies in back alley dumpsters. But Trump found me, and showed me how to hurt so many more people. I will forever be grateful”.

ameancow@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 23:48 collapse

Total BS.

His arms aren’t possibly strong enough to strangle a baby.

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 01:38 collapse

Anyone remember what happened to Napoleon’s army, then Hitler’s army, starting a war in a harsh winter climate?