Death of 19-year-old employee found in Walmart walk-in oven was not foul play, police say (www.nbcnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 00:13
https://lemmy.world/post/22183269

Summary

Police have ruled out foul play in the death of Gursimran Kaur, a 19-year-old Walmart employee found dead in a walk-in bakery oven at a Halifax, Canada, store on October 19.

After interviews, video reviews, and collaboration with labor and medical officials, investigators concluded no one else was involved.

Kaur’s mother, also a Walmart employee, discovered her daughter after a frantic search.

The store remains closed, and the oven is being removed. Workplace safety officials are now leading the investigation.

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xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 00:16 next collapse

Just before people misunderstand… a lack of foul play means the investigators don’t believe it was an intentional act of murder… but Walmart may still be found guilty of gross-negligance in creating an unsafe work environment.

can@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 01:15 next collapse

In a statement Monday, the department said: “Now that Halifax Regional Police have concluded their investigation, effective November 18, the Department of Labour, Skills and Immigration has assumed the lead in the ongoing workplace investigation.”

plz1@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 03:36 next collapse

It just means the punishment is money, not jail. That’s what it really means. Companies can kill people with negligence and pay money. People that kill people with negligence go to jail. And also pay money.

HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 09:51 next collapse

Canada’s labour laws work different than America’s. All workplace deaths are investigated by a provincial worker’s comp and charges are laid under their statutes. Monetary compensation is set by those statutes as well.

Afaik families rarely sue for workplace deaths/injuries, although I’m unsure if it is forbidden under the Workplace Health and Safety Act.

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 22:28 collapse

People that kill others out of Gross negligence often go to Jail but regular negligence I’m pretty sure isn’t criminal, though I’m not Canadian. I’m the other kind of American.

Gross Negligence per Wikipedia is a “lack of slight diligence or care” or “a conscious, voluntary act or omission in reckless disregard of a legal duty and of the consequences to another party.”

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:54 collapse

Maybe. Per the article the oven was fine, though, and if nobody else was involved that means you’d expect the door was clear when she went in.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 00:31 next collapse

Walmart walk-in oven

What in the actual fuck?

Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 00:52 next collapse

How do you think grocery stores bake all that food every day?

Wal Mart is a major grocery outlet here in Canada. In Halifax the options are limited since Sobey’s has a chokehold on the market there.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 01:21 next collapse

Maybe we’re eating too much bread?

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:43 collapse

Can’t tell if serious.

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 05:29 collapse

I thought it was funny.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 11:07 collapse

Wouldn’t be the first time I died on stage.

ZombieMantis@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 11:17 collapse

Happens to the best of us.

reddig33@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 03:29 collapse

By using multi-shelved ovens that aren’t walk-ins? It’s not like everything in the bakery is cooked at the same temperature.

Or how about at automated bakery warehouses where they ship finished goods to various stores like a lot of other places do?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 19 Nov 04:16 collapse

And when you want to bake batches bigger than a few shelf units, what then?

And what do you think factory bakeries use to bake their goods en masse?

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Nov 05:47 collapse

This sort of thing:

<img alt="1000007102" src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/c594ea75-205d-4608-8c31-33829f195b72.webp">

There is still no valid reason to EVER step inside the thing itself, though, so it’s still kinda sketchy.

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 22:33 collapse

yeah, but think of how stupid the average person is and remember that 50% of the population is more stupid than that.

Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 00:50 next collapse

Complete negligence on the store manager’s part was always the obvious reason anyways.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 07:11 collapse

The Nova Scotia Department of Labour, Skills and Immigration also said it issued a stop-work order on Oct. 22 for the Walmart’s bakery and a piece of equipment at the store. The order was lifted on Oct. 28 “after the oven was assessed and determined to have been operating as per the manufacturer’s requirements.”

Doesn’t appear so.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 01:35 next collapse

This is in my neighbourhood.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:45 next collapse

I’m not sure why this was downvoted. That must be especially rough, if you can remember being steps away from where the oven would be a bunch of times, just doing your thing.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:10 next collapse

They are currently in a massive reno. Pretty sure the ovens were new.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 15:43 collapse

That’s an extra point for it not being a physically trapped-type issue, then.

Psythik@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 20:02 collapse

Because it adds nothing to the discussion

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 20:16 collapse

Sure it does. OP was there, sort of.

Anissem@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 03:44 collapse

How’s their bread?

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:09 next collapse

It was normal.

ATDA@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 15:23 collapse

Varies person to person.

Anissem@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 18:00 collapse

Perfect

21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com on 19 Nov 02:39 next collapse

Well that’s fucking horrific.

ManixT@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 03:05 next collapse

The article is written in such a vague and non committal kind of way that it comes across like it was a suicide or something. Way too passive language

tal@lemmy.today on 19 Nov 04:16 next collapse

That seems like a horrendous way to commit suicide.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:46 collapse

Yeah, that’s about as hardcore as you get. Usually they’re protesting something when they go for a really painful way, though, and it sounds like she was alone.

tal@lemmy.today on 19 Nov 04:52 collapse

Maybe if you intentionally ODed on enough drugs to keep yourself completely out, regardless of pain, and were just using the oven to ensure that the job gets done. Even so.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:56 collapse

Ah, the Hitler method of suicide. Yeah, that could be.

Edit: Why are you booing me, I’m right!

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:13 collapse

Hitler took the Luger express on the way out dummy.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 15:42 collapse

But set fire to his bunk first, to finish the job…

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Nov 04:52 next collapse

I don’t know about suicide, but there’s this curious bit:

The Nova Scotia Department of Labour, Skills and Immigration also said it issued a stop-work order on Oct. 22 for the Walmart’s bakery and a piece of equipment at the store. The order was lifted on Oct. 28 “after the oven was assessed and determined to have been operating as per the manufacturer’s requirements.”

From previous threads it sounds like these things all have escape mechanisms on the inside, and that would seem to include it. Maybe she had an unrelated medical problem at the worst possible time?

tal@lemmy.today on 19 Nov 05:23 collapse

This statement from police also kinda sounds like suicide:

globalnews.ca/…/halifax-walmart-death-no-foul-pla…

In a Monday update, Halifax Regional Police (HRP) said investigators had met with the family to share the findings, and that the family has asked for privacy.

A police spokesperson declined an on-camera interview on Monday but in a video statement, Const. Martin Cromwell said while the department understands the public’s interest in the case, “there are questions that may never have answers.”

Cromwell also reminded people to be “mindful of the damage public speculation can cause.”

“This woman’s loved ones are grieving,” he said.

Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 06:35 collapse

I don’t know what Canadian police are like but in the US they often call things suicide just to close cases. I never trust it.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:15 collapse

Well, Halifax caps have their issues but they aren’t cartoonishly corrupt.

Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 16:02 collapse

That’s good to hear

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 19 Nov 03:32 next collapse

Lock-out/Tag-out is the same around the world, right?

errer@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 05:33 next collapse

More like lock-in/bake-in in this case…

(Hope this family sues Walmart for big money)

jerkface@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:14 collapse

what were you thinking

plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 15:39 collapse

That this was reddit

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 19:33 collapse

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HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 13:12 next collapse

It is the law in this area of the world and is effective.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 16:11 collapse

Supposedly this oven had a (broken) internal release. It also can’t swing closed on its own and needs to be pushed fairly hard to latch closed. And lastly, there is no way to turn it on from the inside; You need to activate it from outside after latching the door.

It was the combination of all three of these things that had people immediately suspecting foul play. Because there’s no way she could have turned it on while alone; Someone else had to have closed her in there and turned it on, and the broken internal release meant she couldn’t escape.

can@sh.itjust.works on 19 Nov 18:45 collapse

Supposedly this oven had a (broken) internal release

Has this been credibly mentioned anywhere?

MadBob@feddit.nl on 19 Nov 10:02 collapse

I can’t imagine discovering my own daughter dead in an oven. I don’t think I’d ever recover.