Why are so many Russians freezing in their homes? (www.dw.com)
from HowRu68@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 02:29
https://lemmy.world/post/10890717

Russia boasts a massive energy infrastructure, but a recent wave of heating system breakdowns has left many of its citizens scrambling to keep the frost outside. We are still using the communal infrastructure that was made during the Soviet era," said Svetlana Razvorotneva, a Russian lawmaker and member of the committee in charge of urban engineering. “We did not invest in modernization. Instead, we invested in maintaining all that outdated infrastructure.”

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 19 Jan 2024 02:30 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This week, at least 16 people suffered burns in the city of Nizhny Novgorod when a large-bore heating pipe exploded, spouting boiling water into the street.

Experts warned that the heating network in Russiais poorly maintained and outdated — especially in the areas that have massively increased their population density since the Soviet times.

Due to restrictions on access to the ammunition factory, civilian officials were unable to prepare the boiler room for winter or monitor issues in real-time, according to the outlet.

While some heating-related incidents happen every winter in Russia, this season has seen successive heating failures in multiple cities, from Novosibirsk in Siberia to Moscow and St. Petersburg to the western exclave of Kaliningrad.

Recently, the Kremlin has started taking a more direct role in managing the heating grid, and federal authorities signaled they would be freeing up more funds.

“We are still using the communal infrastructure that was made during the Soviet era,” said Svetlana Razvorotneva, a Russian lawmaker and member of the committee in charge of urban engineering.


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Hubi@feddit.de on 19 Jan 2024 02:38 next collapse

The governor also accused the plant’s owners of being unreachable during the current crisis, pointing out that two of them lived abroad. The issue apparently drew the attention of Russian President Vladimir Putin — he ordered Vorobyov to nationalize the heating facility.

Imagine living in a different time zone and not picking up a call in the middle of the night, only to find out the next day that your government just joinked your entire plant because they messed up the heating infrastructure and needed someone else to blame.

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 03:18 next collapse

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Is Russia Texas?

Zehzin@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 03:33 next collapse

>Oil barons

> Guns

> Silly hats

> Invading neighbors

> Racism

You might be onto something.

chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz on 19 Jan 2024 03:51 next collapse

anti-LGBT

anti-“woke”

Venator@lemmy.nz on 19 Jan 2024 03:57 next collapse

voted for putin

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 20 Jan 2024 00:51 collapse

> Hospitality

> Heavy drinking (although using drinks with completely opposite alcohol contents)

Ildar@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 04:37 collapse

Guns?

the rest of the points suit me 😁

uienia@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:45 collapse

And you do also get what you deserve.

Ildar@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:51 collapse

(ಥ﹏ಥ)

NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social on 19 Jan 2024 04:15 next collapse

No, but Texas might be Russia next year

Fades@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 08:33 collapse

Don’t be too hasty, I hear daddy Putin is puttin together a conservative bigot fascist bootlicker utopia that totally won’t be end up being closer to a ^meat^ ^grinder^ ^waiting^ ^line^

Fades@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 08:31 collapse

Tex wishes it were the other way around, the fucking nonces

naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca on 19 Jan 2024 08:15 next collapse

It’s been terrifyingly cold this year in parts of Canada. I imagine it’s been a similar phenomenon in Russia?

avater@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 08:32 next collapse

let them freeze.

[deleted] on 19 Jan 2024 08:39 next collapse
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18107@aussie.zone on 19 Jan 2024 09:14 collapse

Most Russian people have committed no crime, and many do not support what their leader has done. We should not condem people for the country they were born in.

avater@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 09:19 next collapse

most russians do not support their leader and country? Have you been high for the last 2 years or what?

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:09 collapse

Would you be comfortable with the world treating americans as nazis once and if Trump is reelected, or you want us to do the exception and differentiate between assholes and not-assholes?

avater@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:20 next collapse

if they become a comical evil country that tries to destroy our values and rights, supress sexual minorities and invades their neighbour countries, then yes

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:13 next collapse

That sounds pretty neat and everything, but that is exactly what the USA does all over the world and has been doing over a century. I’m not puting russia and USA on the same table cause I would prefer 1000 times USA over russia, but having some compasion for people that isn’t holding a gun or is freezing because of a war they didn’t ask for wouldn’t hurt. Puting everything on the same bag is what fascist do.

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:40 collapse

Take out invading neighbors and we already do all of that

uienia@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 10:45 next collapse

It would perhaps be a wake up call for the apathetic majority.

GenEcon@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 13:33 next collapse

I will 100 % judge US Americans if Trump gets reelected. If half of your country votes for them, the people are responsible.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 15:27 collapse

When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

tired_n_bored@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 11:53 next collapse

They do support the war.

derphurr@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 02:26 next collapse

But over half of them support Putin.

Just like the US citizens deserve the hellscape Trump will bring. Just like UK citizens deserve poverty and empty grocery stores for their Brexit vote.

Quit pretending these country citizens shouldn’t be condemned to the hell the tacitly approved of. It doesn’t matter if one Russian or one Texan doesn’t support their dictator, enough of their neighbors do. So suffer for your country and for the sins of your neighbors. They didn’t do enough to stop it.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 04:15 collapse

With my whole chest: FUCK. THE. RUSSIAN. PEOPLE.

Those vile scum have never once in history had their shit together. All they’ve ever accomplished is bringing misery to themselves and exporting it to their neighbors. Hell, they export misery worldwide!

Last century? 50-years of Cold War hanging over our heads. 50-years of planet killing devastation, good to go. If men like Vasily Arkhipov and Stanislav Petrov hadn’t had the balls to defy orders, we’d be living in Fallout.

Once the Soviet Union collapsed? They turned into gangsters, overnight, fucking their people over, because that’s how they roll. Raped the whole country, and you get what we have here today. Oligarchs raiding the military until it’s almost non-functional. Oligarchs with world bending wealth while the people freeze to death.

The Russians refuse to join the rest of the planet for peace and prosperity. FFS, North Korea is their ally. How fucked up is your situation when you’re purchasing howitzer shells from the retarded kid living in a shack?!

Now they’re prosecuting a war against their little brother, failing miserably, barely hanging in at best. Ya know, because they fucked themselves over so hard they can’t field working tanks, rifles or soldiers.

And what do the Russian people do? Same thing as always! Curl into a depression ball and say, “So it goes. Pass the vodka.”

And for those of you coming along thinking, “Damn this guy hates Russia.” I don’t hate Russia nearly as much as Russians hate Russia. The minute those people show an ounce of spine, I’ll be their biggest cheerleader.

narp@feddit.de on 19 Jan 2024 12:12 next collapse

Fitting Russian propaganda about Europe freezing in winter

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HowRu68@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 12:41 collapse

yip

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 12:49 collapse

Wow, infrastructure breakdown left 20,000 without heat for a few days? That’s not news. A good storm in the northeast can knock the power system out for days here. Just more mindless propaganda trying to make you think a certain way.

[deleted] on 19 Jan 2024 12:52 next collapse
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SupraMario@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 13:18 next collapse

Lemmy.ml needs to be defederated…

Stop leaking your trash ccp/ussr crap everywhere.

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 13:40 next collapse

Lol. I wasn’t showing any support for anyone, just pointing out the clear goal of the article, and especially it’s headline. It’s important to check sources, especially when there is a news article pertaining to your geo-political enemies.

DarkThoughts@fedia.io on 19 Jan 2024 16:15 collapse

It's really just Lemmygrad in disguise.

SupraMario@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 00:03 next collapse

Yep, I was banned from world news overe there because there was a pro CCP article about how China isn’t about taking land…said one thing about the Philippines and Taiwan being two places they want…mod banned me after someone called me a white supremacist… I’m not even white lol

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 20 Jan 2024 03:09 collapse

Occasionally. Sometimes it seems like a free-for-all over there too, though.

HowRu68@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:05 next collapse

A good storm in the northeast can knock the power system.

But they didn’t mention a storm in Moscow, that’s the thing isn’? And the outages have been at multiple places across the RF.

Here is a link fromThe Moscow Times

Also nobody knows what you are talking about when you say northeast : NE from where?

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 14:11 collapse

Good point. North east US.

And you are right they didn’t mention a storm, but that’s not my point. The article title clearly exacerbates the problem, and points the blame in a way that suggests the Russians are either too stupid or too poor to fix the problem. Why should any of us care about such a small thing for one? And two, what is their intention? It’s well known that NYtimes toes the state line when it comes to propaganda against American “enemies” .

Really the only thing useful from the article is:

“20,000 without heat in Russia due to infrastructure failure. Crews working to fix it.”

But then why would anyone care about that?

HowRu68@lemmy.world on 19 Jan 2024 14:45 collapse

Becasue it’s ironic to have a huge oil reserve as a country, but autocrats filled their pockets with money and spend in wars, instead of investing in infrastructure.

It’s relational because common people unfortunately always pay the price for having bad leaders; because it’s freezing cold in many parts of the world; and finally, because RF Gvment said Europe was freezing to death last year according to their propaganda/ YT link

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rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 15:02 collapse

I remember the article. And I’m not saying that didn’t happen, in fact I’m sure the Russian Oligarchs are siphoning tons from the Russian people.

But the fact remains, the article you shared is American propaganda being used to drum up support for more sanctions, or war, or some other purpose, which will just result in American Oligarchs sending Americans and/or their money to places they should never be. There is truth to the article, but the framing is for political purposes.

You want to support oppressed people? Great! You want to denounce a tyrant? Great! You see folks across the Atlantic rising up in revolution against oligarchs? Also great!

But being critical of how the media is presented can go a long way towards supporting the right causes, being upset about things that are worth being upset about, and making sure you don’t waste your energy pushing the agenda of some government which should be minding its own business.

And the working people always suffer, and will always suffer, as long as our representatives don’t represent us.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 14:57 collapse

Absolutely on point.

Totally not a big thing. It was Ukranazi children in Moscow. Russia just hit their own infrastructure to save all of them.

Use logic! Fucking libtard Nazis, am I right?!

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 15:08 collapse

And what are you going to do about it? Be upset? That sounds like a waste of your time, emotions, and intelligence.

Like I said in another response, I’m sure what happened is mostly true, but the framing is for political purposes. It’s important to be critical of the purpose of an article (to inform? Or to influence?) so you can focus your energy on the politics that you have influence over.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 15:14 collapse

Are you supporting Neofascist?!

Eat dirt and choke, Nazi!

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 15:36 collapse

A well thought out response. You got me lol. One day I hope to live up to your intellectual standards.

/s

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 16:09 collapse

Cry me a Nazi river.

rando895@lemmy.ml on 19 Jan 2024 16:30 collapse

No need, the Soviets made a river of natzi blood in the 40’s.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 19 Jan 2024 17:55 collapse

Eat trash and die Nazi.