Telegram Hands U.S. Authorities Data on Thousands of Users (www.404media.co)
from mox@lemmy.sdf.org to world@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 2025 22:34
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extremeboredom@lemmy.world on 06 Jan 2025 23:04 next collapse

Common Telegram L

Scolding7300@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 21:39 collapse

Why common? Just a shady track record?

arin@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 00:20 next collapse

I still don’t understand why people would use services that require a phone number

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 02:34 next collapse

Most people don’t care. And that’s fine, they don’t have a reason to. There’s a lot of other things that are probably a higher priority for them.

Bigger question is if you’re going to be doing things that are in any way considered shady or bad, why would you not take any precautions?

TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee on 07 Jan 2025 02:55 collapse

They do have to, we are literally living the era of Cambridge Analyticas and troll factories that proves why. Imagine tying your phone number to Twitter’s app just to be classified as a troublemaker and persecuted in things like job searches just for disagreeing with Musk, it’s closer to reality than you think.

ButtermilkBiscuit@lemm.ee on 07 Jan 2025 07:36 next collapse

You can sign up and use a fragment number. Requires you paying in the telegram crypto TON, then registering that number during account sign up. It’s not a real phone number and can’t do sms or be used with other service, but it will get on you telegram without giving up your real number.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Jan 2025 16:08 collapse

You have to be on at least some, right? I’m pretty hardcore about the hacker lifestyle and I still need to be able to open a new email account, get certain government services (although I guess most will do everything by snail mail) or communicate with certain businesses.

There’s no good reason for a messaging service to work based on them, though, you’re right. Signal I’m looking at you as well.

Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org on 07 Jan 2025 05:50 next collapse

Shitty criminals shouldn't be protected, end of story.

kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 07 Jan 2025 14:46 next collapse

Thats literally why the bill of rights and due process exist. Legally and constitutionally everyone has a right to privacy and due process.

Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org on 07 Jan 2025 18:54 collapse

Not criminals. You're trolling.

MutilationWave@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 22:48 next collapse

Criminals have rights too. And I think it’s sus that you went straight to child porn and trafficking. Most people just used it for drugs.

kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Jan 2025 04:51 collapse

Yes, thats literally why due process exists. Its also why the court system is innocent until proven guilty and eveyone has a right to a lawyer.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Jan 2025 16:06 next collapse

I guarantee you do something that’s illegal somewhere regularly.

Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org on 07 Jan 2025 18:53 collapse

Yeah, I pirate. Biiiiiiiig fucking deal!

But am I fucking going around on Telegram in child abuse or trafficking rings or some other shit? Am I part of the child pornography ring or some other shit? Get the fuck real, you moron.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Jan 2025 19:01 collapse

Ooh, that’s spicier than even I meant. It’s illegal to drink in Saudi, it’s illegal to criticise Kim Jung Un in NK.

They absolutely could ruin your life for that shit if they wanted.

Lowpast@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 18:55 collapse

Ahh yes, the “i have nothing to hide why do I need privacy” argument.

Do you close your curtains or lower the blinds? Lock your front door? You must be a criminal.

Scolding7300@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 21:42 collapse
  • if you don’t that’s fine, but then your neighbor, friend, coworker might have and you’re causing them to jump through surveillance hoops
  • legal/illegal != moral
atro_city@fedia.io on 07 Jan 2025 11:09 next collapse

Signal is getting better. Maybe someday they'll support Telegram's features like pinning messages and large rooms. But they are a good alternative already if all you want to do is chat and share memes.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Jan 2025 16:05 next collapse

If somebody has it, somebody can give it away.

Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Jan 2025 21:39 collapse

The other day, someone was trying to explain to me how telegram is being used for people looking for privacy and security. 😂

devilish666@lemmy.world on 07 Jan 2025 21:56 collapse

Yup…i remembered back in old days Telegram advertised as High Privacy & High Security chat app