Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies (www.economist.com)
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MonsterMonster@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 06:32 next collapse

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP repeatedly claims that the European Union was “formed in order to screw the United States”. Canada, America’s northern neighbour and second-largest trading partner, is “one of the nastiest countries”. Russia was “doing what anyone would do” when it bombed Ukraine’s energy infrastructure during a pause in American intelligence sharing. Our polling with YouGov shows how this rhetoric is reshaping people’s opinions about their countries’ allies.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 02 Apr 07:16 collapse

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP repeatedly claims that the European Union was “formed in order to screw the United States”.

I thought I was immune to the insanity, but I’m flabbergasted again. Did he really say that?

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 08:40 collapse

Yeah lmao.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 03 Apr 06:37 collapse

Thanks. It gets worse:

“That’s the purpose of it, and they’ve done a good job of it. But now I’m president.

This is who Trump is. Thinks he is. Strongman. But alas, he’s fighting windmills. And by fighting them, he makes those peaceful windmills fight back. Which then retroactively justifies his paranoia that the world is against him? Stop the sanewashing. This person belongs in an asylum.

seven_phone@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 06:37 next collapse

Where is the line for enemies separating you from your allies so they will not be there when you need them?

MyOpinion@lemm.ee on 02 Apr 07:01 next collapse

You mean MAGAts hate our allies. Decent humans love other decent humans.

Master167@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 12:03 next collapse

Well, it is a “sin” to emphasize with others.

VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 15:10 collapse

You do see the rise on the Democrats line too, no?

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 08:40 next collapse

Okay I get Republicans (jk I don't) but why is the same thing happening to Democrats?

b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Apr 09:01 next collapse

Democrats differ from Republicans in degree not kind of ideology.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 09:04 next collapse

I mean fair enough but with that framework they'd only change their opinion of these places when their ideological leaders tell them to, which I don't think has happened yet.

pohart@programming.dev on 02 Apr 10:45 collapse

I’m not sure the Democrats even have ideological leaders.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 02 Apr 11:01 collapse

They think they don't, but many/most of them worship the neoliberal political establishment in a weird abusive relationship kind of way. Listen to your average high-information liberal talk about Gaza dissent in the 2024 election and you'll see what I mean. Around here saying that the Democrats needed to change course or they'd lose was enough to get you branded as a Russian troll.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 02 Apr 09:19 collapse

Resentment towards how the world is rightly talking about US being fucking dumbasses, possibly?

TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 02 Apr 09:12 next collapse

70% of our media is controlled by Nazis especially the news at a local level. Propaganda at that level eventually worms it’s way into the opposition party.

forallmoonkind@lemm.ee on 02 Apr 10:56 collapse

Stockholm syndrome?

banghida@lemm.ee on 02 Apr 08:44 next collapse

Lmao

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 09:28 next collapse

Fucking bootlickers.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 02 Apr 09:43 next collapse

The feeling is mutual. The majority of people in the EU are downgrading USA to “necessary partner” now and one fifth sees USA as an ally. Two thirds feels cooperation should be reduced.

Well played Putin, well played.

CitizenKong@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 13:12 collapse

I mean an emancipation of the EU from the US is well overdue, Trump or not.

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 09:51 next collapse

Thing is, I don’t care if an idiot doesn’t like me. I know whatever reasons he has are invalid.

sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml on 02 Apr 10:08 collapse

Unfortunately that idiot also has a gun

tatann@lemm.ee on 02 Apr 12:47 collapse

We also have idiots with guns (and bombs)

Not sure if it’s reassuring yet

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 09:59 next collapse

So the data shows explicitly that it’s not Americans but Republicans but well just go ahead and generalize.

Fantastic journalism.

sys110x@feddit.nl on 02 Apr 21:30 collapse

It’s not a poll of Republicans, it’s a poll of the US public and there’s upticks in both camps.

To the rest of the world, it’s not the United States of Republicans that are threatening Greenland and Canada, tearing up their own trade agreements, and shitting on allies. It’s the United States of America.

Pointing at the other internal camp and implying ‘It’s not us, it’s them’ might help US residents sleep at night but it does nothing on the world stage.

DrDeadCrash@programming.dev on 02 Apr 10:20 next collapse

MAGA is the enemy.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Apr 15:36 collapse

Fascism is the enemy. Maga is just one version.

DrDeadCrash@programming.dev on 02 Apr 20:44 collapse

True enough

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip on 02 Apr 10:23 next collapse

Why the rise in democrats tho?

mPony@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 10:28 next collapse

Splash damage

otp@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 10:50 next collapse

Tariffs that don’t exclusively impact red states, I guess?

Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Apr 11:29 next collapse

Centrists

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 13:10 collapse

Just because Democrats are more resistant, they are not immune to propaganda.

Redex68@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 10:56 next collapse

Interesting that for Democrats Canada has had more “unfriendly” responses than the EU even before the sanctions. Maybe because the EU is less relevant to them since Canada directly borders the US?

RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 11:49 next collapse

A lot of Americans are poorly educated in international relations and politics and genuinely do not understand the fallout of Trump’s choices/statements. We sadly will all suffer to some degree because of this ignorance

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 02 Apr 12:51 next collapse

Fucking brain dead… Trump can’t even string a coherent sentence together, yet it’s enough to convince these mouth breathers to turn on Canada?

OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca on 02 Apr 14:23 next collapse

And this is why everyone who says “they won’t invade Canada because too many people like us” are sadly mistaken. Trump constantly tells them how nasty we are and the media has started its disinformation to lay the groundwork for invasion.

Grungeehamster@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 20:57 next collapse

I would say “How would they identify which one is American or Canadian” in a skirmish but I look at what happened to Ukraine

Tryenjer@lemmy.world on 02 Apr 21:43 collapse

Ukrainians a few decades ago would have said the same about Russia.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Apr 15:37 next collapse

No chart for Israel? Curious…

StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net on 02 Apr 22:23 collapse

What do you think that chart would show?

(Aside from a huge drop in democratic popularity following the anti-israel media blitz following the Oct 7 massacre)

Do you think Republicans are the only ones susceptible to propaganda?

collapse_already@lemmy.ml on 02 Apr 16:20 next collapse

Meanwhile I am learning to dislike my fellow Americans to the point where I am starting to think violence might be the only viable solution.

europeanfan122@lemm.ee on 03 Apr 06:52 next collapse

What is wrong with this country…?

slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org on 03 Apr 06:56 collapse

And then they are shocked that wveryone dislikes them when they leave the country