Assange’s wife says ‘the world is watching’ extradition appeal hearing (thehill.com)
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autotldr@lemmings.world on 22 Feb 2024 11:50 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


They have to know they can’t get away with this,” Stella Assange said at a protest outside of the Royal Courts of Justice in London, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite.

Julian Assange has been attempting to avoid extradition to the U.S. for more than a decade, where he has been indicted on 17 charges including espionage and computer misuse.

He assisted U.S. Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning in stealing diplomatic cables and military files, which would later be published on WikiLeaks, American prosecutors allege.

“He is being prosecuted for engaging in ordinary journalistic practice of obtaining and publishing classified information, information that is both true and of obvious and important public interest,” Edward Fitzgerald, Assange’s lawyer, said in court, per The Associated Press.

“Assange and WikiLeaks were responsible for the exposure of criminality on the part of the U.S. government on an unprecedented scale,” Fitzgerald said in written submissions, according to the AP.

The WikiLeaks founder’s lawyers have also said that, if convicted, he risks facing up to 175 years in prison, but American authorities have disagreed and said his sentence will probably be shorter.


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AshMan85@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 12:32 next collapse

Hang the Russian spy

13esq@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 12:33 next collapse

How is he a Russian spy?

Wiki leaks are published for all to view, not just Russia.

n2burns@lemmy.ca on 22 Feb 2024 14:47 next collapse

I don’t agree with the root comment, but Wikileaks has repeatedly ignored leaks of Russian classified info and many of their sources appear to be Russian Intelligence.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 15:16 next collapse

I wouldn’t characterize him as a Russian spy, more of an asset. Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:20 next collapse

>Wikileaks selectively released information rather than being the safe harbor for all intelligence leaks that they purported to be.

what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks? no one cares about the timeclock at mcdonald's on 5th and main.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 15:31 collapse

Curious how all the leaks about Russia were deemed unimportant

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:32 next collapse

wasn't he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

PugJesus@kbin.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:49 next collapse

wasn't he taking asylum in russia? do you really think he should have made enemies there when the US et al were already trying to jail him?

what makes you think that it was any more than only releasing important leaks?

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:50 collapse

oh no! the situation is complex and it's possible that even the best actors had to make some tough decisions.

PugJesus@kbin.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:53 collapse

Are you the actor making the tough decision to knowingly make disingenuous arguments?

ickplant@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 15:51 collapse

You’re thinking of Snowden. Assange was at an Ecuadorian embassy in London. Two very different cases.

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:52 collapse

oh. then is there any reason at all to think he got leaks about russia that were worth publishing?

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 16:16 collapse

Someone who worked inside Wikileaks certainly felt they were newsworthy

We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”

You can read more here

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 16:20 collapse

Foreign Policy endorsed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the 2016 US presidential election. This was the first time in its 50-year history the magazine endorsed a candidate.

you will forgive me if i don't find your source to be credible in this regard.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 16:57 collapse

I mean, did you see the other guy?

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 17:03 collapse

I actually read the piece after checking for bias, and all the most damning stuff is innuendo. it's a nothing burger.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 17:25 collapse

It’s a fact that WL refused to publish the document cache with the justification being that the data was already out in the open but that wasn’t true as only half of it had already been reported on. How is that innuendo?

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 17:27 collapse

>but that wasn’t true as only half of it had already been reported on

it seems to me that it was totally out (or later became totally available), regardless of the reporting that was done. it's innuendo to imply that they refused to publish it for any reason outside of their normal editorial standards.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 17:33 collapse

I agree there is no smoking gun per se, but I find the justification that it would “distract” from the 2016 election leaks to be incredibly flimsy. The rest of the info got out on the internet through sources other than WL.

The refusal to publish also contradicts Assange’s claims in 2010 to publish documents on any institution that resisted oversight. The Kremlin couldn’t fit more squarely into that bucket.

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 17:36 collapse

he can still "publish documents on any institution that resisted oversight" without publishing every document about such an institution. any particular document or set of documents may be unable to be verified or not of particular interest or already available through other sources. he didn't promise to publish every byte that mentioned the kremlin regardless of his editorial standards.

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 17:57 collapse

curious how you’re obsessed with repeating that lie over and over again…

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 18:09 collapse

If you say so

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 19:12 collapse

keep on obsessively repeating that lie without actually checking it out, then

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 19:20 collapse

It’s not a lie, he refused to publish the Kremlin leaks for reasons I found paper thin. Sorry we don’t agree, I’ll refrain from calling you names because what’s the fucking point?

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 21:24 collapse

yeah well can you provide a real source for that? maybe other than “one secret person told this paper, and by golly we believe them!”

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 17:57 collapse

lying shill

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 18:08 next collapse

Me or Julian?

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 19:12 next collapse

you

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GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network on 24 Feb 2024 12:27 collapse

S A L T Y

xor@infosec.pub on 24 Feb 2024 15:14 collapse

shill

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:53 collapse

GRU basically runs WikiLeaks.

13esq@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:55 collapse

Source: dude, trust me

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:08 collapse

Lmao. I wasn’t born yesterday. There’s been years of news on this. That’s an extremely poor attempt at gaslighting.

13esq@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 06:57 collapse

There’s been years of propaganda on this.

A guy embarrasses the richest and most powerful people in the world by telling you the dirty secrets they were hiding from you. And when they tell you that it’s the messenger who’s the enemy, you believe them SMH.

If you’re against wikileaks, you’re against the rights of journalists and you’re opposed to the freedom of information.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 08:10 collapse

Nope. If NYT wants to publish stuff about warrantless wiretapping that’s fine. More power to them.

WikiLeaks edited video and text content from day 1. The US Army caught them out several times by just releasing the full video. They didn’t even try with the DNC emails, they put sensational headers on them had nothing to do with what was written in the email. Then there’s the revelations of the GOP and RUS hacks which somehow have yet to see the light of day.

So yeah after that fumbling attempt at creating propaganda it wasn’t exactly a surprise to find out the Russian GRU were essentially running the site by the mid 2010’s. Assange went beyond journalism and into foreign agent territory when he edited his stuff out of truthfulness and selectively released documents to influence American politics.

So no you don’t get to tie him to investigative journalism like the Panama Papers.

anlumo@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 13:56 next collapse

How much does the US pay for working as one of their propagandists?

demonsword@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 18:52 collapse

plenty of dupes do that work for free

spez_@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:10 collapse

Yeah like these idiots on Lemmy. They need to go back to Reddit

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:15 next collapse

Says the dude with a Reddit reference for a username, lol

Sorry people not echoing your sentiments puts your panties in a twist.

GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network on 24 Feb 2024 16:09 collapse

sToOpId bRaYn dEd

Potatisen@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 14:28 next collapse

Then there wold be a bunch of American politicians hanging.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 15:14 next collapse

I see no issue

njm1314@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 15:29 collapse

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 15:33 next collapse

he's an australian journalist, actually.

AshMan85@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 19:28 collapse

Don’t matter what country or occupation, he is still a Russian spy lol

bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social on 22 Feb 2024 19:31 collapse

do you have any proof for your accusation?

spez_@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:08 collapse

Stupid brain-dead

PugJesus@kbin.social on 22 Feb 2024 14:39 next collapse

Yep, watching to see if fame can still get you out of consequences for your crimes.

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jordanlund@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 01:47 collapse

Removed, keep it civil.

Tangent5280@lemmy.world on 24 Feb 2024 07:03 collapse

Keep worshipping Big Brother. You’re nothing but fodder for the state machine, and the saddest part is how comfortable you are being fodder.

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 16:18 next collapse

This is a different woman than the one he raped, right?

xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 17:58 next collapse

he was never actually accused of raping anyone…

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xor@infosec.pub on 22 Feb 2024 17:59 next collapse

he’s not a crook… however, i question your morality

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Adanisi@lemmy.zip on 22 Feb 2024 22:26 next collapse

I’d argue the crooks are the ones who’ve committed war crimes and are very upset they got leaked.

Rakonat@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:44 collapse

The fact that you’re being downvoted tells you a lot of people only got information of this Russian agent from wikileaks and other russian leaning sources.

Downvote me fanboys. He’s a political activist sitting on info to use when it’s most politically damaging, not acting quickly as possible to stop suffering. If he really gave a damn about anything but being an information broker he would have exposed all of Russias crap they did in Ukraine and Georgia since 2014, instead he was hyper focused on making the west look bad.

Edit: Oh look, the downvoted didn’t start till almost 7AM Moscow Time, surely that’s just a coincidence!

JoeKrogan@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 18:14 next collapse

He’ll lose unfortunately, as he’s been designated an enemy of big daddy US and the UK will bend over backwards to make sure that happens. The whole thing is ridiculous, he’s been held for years now

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:54 next collapse

Yup watching to see a Russian Agent get extradited finally.

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