Rival Palestinian Factions Project Unity, but Deep Divisions Remain (www.nytimes.com)
from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 02:11
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xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 24 Jul 2024 02:38 collapse

Is it unreasonable to come out of this with a East/West Pakistan solution?

It’s deeply regrettable but decades of work by Isreal has really driven a wedge between Gaza and the West Bank.

Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 2024 07:14 collapse

This part is unrelated to Israel.
The tensions begun the moment Hamas came into power.
When Hamas took over Gaza in 2007, they threw Fatah officials off buildings and shot into crowds of their supporters.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah–Hamas_conflict

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 24 Jul 2024 07:20 next collapse

It is related to Isreal as Netanyahu funded Hamas and fought against a unified Palestinian government.

Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 2024 07:32 collapse

The funding of Hamas by Qatar was after their takeover of Gaza.

roboto@feddit.org on 25 Jul 2024 10:20 collapse

Not that I want to defend Hamas, and since it was some kind of civil war it was definitely violent. But do you have any sources on Hamas throws people off buildings or is this another „Hamas beheads babies“ kind of thing?

Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Jul 2024 11:14 collapse

It’s in the Wikipedia link.
But here you go: hrw.org/…/gaza-armed-palestinian-groups-commit-gr…

On Sunday, Hamas military forces captured 28-year-old Muhammad Swairki, a cook for President Mahmoud Abbas’s presidential guard, and executed him by throwing him to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City.

www.nytimes.com/…/15iht-mideast.4.6161020.html

Two men were killed in revenge slaying, including a Fatah gunman thrown from a roof, in what Hamas described as a family grievance.

roboto@feddit.org on 25 Jul 2024 12:06 collapse

I’m sorry I kind of overlooked that. Thanks for providing the link anyway!

I tried googling this further because Human Rights Watch also doesn’t say where they have this information from. But pretty much everything I can find is some IDF sources, a Times of Israel article and a medium blogpost.

That’s not to say that I wanted to call you a liar or try to find evidence that Hamas are indeed the good people, I just realized that I’ve been lied to so many times that it’s hard to believe anything like this that sounds like straight from an action movie. Anyway, eventually I guess it doesn’t really matter. And thanks again for providing the link!