from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 21:50
https://lemmy.world/post/43696080
The building appears to be among many devastated in Trump’s ‘major combat operations’ as long expected attacks arrive
Iran’s parents had just dropped their children off for class on Saturday morning when they found themselves racing back to school gates, as bombs began to fall across the country in a joint US-Israel attack.
At one elementary school, according to Iran’s state-controlled media, they arrived to find devastation. At least 80 children had been killed in the strike on Shajareh Tayyebeh girls’ school in Minab, southern Iran, the IRNA news agency reported, with dozens more unaccounted for.
In one video circulating on social media, purportedly showing the immediate aftermath of the strike, smoke rises from the burnt-out walls, and debris lies spread across the road. Hundreds of onlookers gathered at the site, some in obvious distress. Screams can be heard in the background. The report of the bombing, its death toll and the video’s source could not immediately be independently verified by the Guardian. Persian factchecking service Factnameh was able to cross-reference the video with other photographs of the school site, and concluded that the video was authentic. Reuters said it had also verified the footage as being from the school.
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What’s that thing when people are killed for no real strategic purpose? 🤔
It’s on the tip of my tongue. Starts with an M?
Mancy?
I was thinking of the letter T but that works also.
Unfortunately, just statistics
It’s either collateral damage or murder. Sadly I’m going with murder
Collateral Murder
There is a strategic purpose…
They don’t want peace, even if that’s because they won.
They want a constant war as an excuse for why they can be the only ones in power.
Killing a bunch of kids, makes sure the other side won’t surrender. Even if the government does, you can claim all the people who want to kill your for killing kids are terrorists, and that they didn’t surrender.
Which makes it even worse.
It’s a genocide. We don’t intend to let them surrender. We’re going to keep killing long after Iran has been fully defanged
Business.
You might be thinking of collective punishment.
America.
Americans and Israelis when these particular roosters are going to come home to roost: “why do they hate us?”.
A super majority of Americans are anti-Israel. This is a strawman that isn’t applicable anymore. Democrats are about to sweep in mid-terms as a consequence of this action + Gaza + ICE.
That’s entirely irrelevant to any radicalized Iranian who saw American bombs killing innocent school children.
But does, ironically demonstrate the exact “but why do they hate us, it was Israel!” reaction to be expected.
I think you misunderstand. The point is that everyone in the US knows exactly why “they hate us” — it is not a mystery to anyone. This is a straw man in the truest sense; you’d be hard pressed to find a US citizen who authentically poses this question.
Ah I understand, good clarification.
The “rooster” for Israel is climate change
How about we all simultaneously lobby our representatives to impeach this entire evil administration?
Still counting on representatives to solve this mess aye? General strike until that orange turd is in jail I’d say.
I’m in if others will.
There’s the issue
All of mine are sadly in lock step with the asshole in chief. Also usually have phone lines disconnected not that they’d even care if constituents called or contacted them
What if we just voted for better representatives in the first place?
Lol jk. We’ll never do that.
God fucking damnit, so fucking frustrating. Another 30+ years of “terrorists” because people will avenge war crimes committed by the US. This is maddening.
We were never going to hear the end of “Muslim Terrorist” rhetoric, because it was instrumental in justifying our dominion over the region.
There isn’t going to be another 9/11. We’re well past the point of needing a causa belli for this kind of war. It’ll just be ICE goons murdering parents in front of crying children and CNN talking heads explaining how we’re safer because of it.
America claims its attacks are to stop ‘terrorists’, but it’s exactly those actions that are creating ‘terrorists’. And they’re fully justified in becoming ‘terrorists’ imo.
If I lived in Iran, I’d certainly want revenge for this.
(here I’m using the word terrorist to mean ‘enemy of America~s administration~’, as that’s what America has turned that word into)
Prior to this attack, as well as the bunker busters dropped last year: I do not believe Iran is/was creating nuclear weapons.
Since these two attacks however, I believe they’d be justified in seeking such weapons simply because America has proven over and over that no nation is safe without them.
In short; I don’t think they are/were, but I do think they should be in response. As much as I don’t like nuclear proliferation, I’m much much more against deliberately killing innocents, particularly children.
Perhaps I’d have a different opinion if America/Israel struck military targets; but they didn’t. They struck homes, schools, and other civilians.
America is truly a Terrorist State, if not just a lap dog of Israel’s genocidal regime.
Even this hasn’t born out. We’re not seeing waves of terrorism on US soil by foreigners or radicalized domestics.
We’re seeing police brutality by state officials aimed anyone who “looks like a terrorist”, with some spycops bullshit to entrap a few useful idiots along the way.
They’re dismantling the ability of the Iranian state to defend it’s sovereignty so they can bomb and assassinate locals with impunity.
They’re also randomly killing civilians, because these military strikes aren’t as precise or informed as the leadership wants you to believe
It’s “casus” belli
I don’t think that the US imperial regime is going to last that long
Should we be so lucky
I can see it, not through being overthrown but by immense incompitence as its run by people who are so detatched that they don’t even really understand where food comes from and so up their own asses that they genuinely believe chat GPT can perform complex real world tasks.
Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking. All suicide bombers need to do is say “this was for those schoolgirls” and it’s kind of hard to disagree with them.
The problem is that the people committing these atrocities face no legal justice, so it’s up to vigilantes to do it instead.
And terrorist attacks on Americans ensures more supposed “strong man” presidents. It’s all part of the plan.
This will definitely keep America safe and absolutely not produce any radicalized terrorists.
The radicalized terrorists bombed a school full of children.
Being violently anti-America or Israel is not radical, it’s entirely justified. so kinda true actually.
Fucker is either murdering kids or raping them.
Little of column A. Little of column B.
Allegedly sometimes both at the same time.
Someone on Reddit wrote they are hoping for a stroke, 223 upvotes.
I added “I am team blood clot.” and got a 3 day ban, lol.
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Why are you still there?
I tried fully switching to Lemmy, but the content was lacking. Sure, you got communities for everything, but they are pretty much dead.
For example on r/Nvidia I immediately see news about new driver updates and the changelogs. On Lemmy it’s dead.
Similar to other subreddits, be it for certain games or other topics :-/
Be the change you want to see.
i mean i am the change i want to see, make hundreds of posts, lemmy is still dead and i need reddit for content?
Then… Go outside more? I donno, stop propping up that fascist bullshit.
nah right now the quality of content here id put on par with youtube comment section
the people here also appear to mostly be american leftwing progressives who feel the need to inject complaints about “the west” and “capitalism” as a by word for America all day every day
so it’s a left wing shithole with minimal quality content beyond shitty left wing memes and shitty 1 line snarky comments
sorry the fascist place is better? make better content? comment on things that aren’t yet more left wing politics?
Then by all means, goodbye.
im not going, i hate this place too much to leave
i also love downvotes
Please stay, we need people like you here.
❤️
Oh God please no.
If only there was another way to view Nvidia driver changelogs…
Congrats?
Stop. Posting. On. Reddit.
o7
Ha! Solidarity, mate. Although I should warn you, too many of those temp bans and they kick you out for good. As happened to me, which is why I’m here. 😄
you know like a few weeks ago the iranian regime killed upwards of 30,000 people? thousands who were students?
did this even register on your radar?
So killing more is better right? Certainly doing this whole war is going to benefit the Iranian people?
iranians are literally in the streets cheering and setting off fireworks right now
m.youtube.com/shorts/ntx3czqn5rI
“look at the propaganda that proves me right!”
Probably more like 10,000. But yes, the Iranian government are a brutal bunch of thugs.
Doesn’t justify the US attacks at all. This is unlikely to result in regime change, more like bloody civil war.
Isn’t this something CIA / Mossad made up to justify attacking Iran? It hasn’t been independently verified as far as I know.
Verified deaths are about a thousand ‘protestors’, and about two thousand police and civilians.
This is like talking to a fox news watcher
Why not take 30 seconds to look up whether you are spreading IRGC disinformation?
perplexity.ai/…/how-many-protestors-killed-in-lcx…
Stop getting your information from AI.
Pretty sure targeting children’s schools breaches the Geneva Convention rules of war. Although Israel will say they’re a cover for a military base
Those rules have not mattered in my lifetime. They are guidelines at best.
A checklist…
it was targeting a nearby military base
same way iran right now is hitting hotels and apartment buildings all over the middle east
The school wasn’t targeted, dum dum. There was a military building very close to the school and despite what you see in the movies, most missiles launched in wars aren’t all that perfect at hitting their intended target.
I’m not defending Trump or Israel or the strikes. I’m just defending against the ignorance if you spreading misinformation that wouldn’t even make sense to do intentionally to begin with. Trump regime wanted to make sure Israel struck first because they thought it would look better that way to US voters. You think he intentionally wanted the flak from bombing a grade school?
That was my first thought but the BBC are reporting the school was ~600m from the IRGC base which is well beyond the CEP of modern guided munitions (even if they lose GPS signal, JDAMs should have a CEP of <= 30m on inertial guidance alone). So I dunno, catastrophic intelligence failure or a result of an attempted interception seem to be the leading theories that I can see now.
I can see incompetence, some sort of missile failure, or Iranian defense having something to do with it. There’s no purposeful reason to intentionally hit a single grade school. At least not from the US. It would be counter to anything Trumpet would want. I could only see it as an open possibility from Israel if they wanted to intentionally prolong the war in order to slaughter Iranians by enraging them to make them not want to turn against their current government as much.
DON"T Worry! Upon hearing that Trump ILLEGAL Bombed a bunch of Children Chuck Schumer and the Democrat Party EAGERLY got together to DISCUSS Writing a SEMI STERN Letter! Vote BLUE No matter WHO!
Don’t vote Gavin. He couldn’t even churn out a proper response. He is a diet MAGA. Vote Blue, it matters who
if another 9/11 happens i wouldn’t give a fuck
Unless you’re sitting in the tower.
sure. too bad for me though.
Gotta wonder how many Chuds will post “Iranians can wear bikinis again” before the bodies are even cold
Remember when we all condemned Russia for hitting those schools in Ukraine? And, of course, they’re still doing it.
I guess not all of us did.
Why are you believing the state media of an authoritarian extremist state?
Because there is video evidence of it…? I saw a tiny pink backpack with bloody handprints on it as soon as I saw the video of people screaming outside the school
Do you have a link to that video?
For anyone else reading this, FG_3479 has other posts promoting deportation and suggesting some immigrants are simply “wired for crime”.
I don’t think there’s any need to engage with someone who has such a clear absence of compassion or humanity.
I do not think you should simply pick random people off the street and deport them.
I think that illegal immigrants should be given a chance to go through the process to become legal, and that process should be cheaper and faster than it is now.
The people I want deported are those such as drug dealers and terrorists.
Also, my “wired for crime” comment was not targeted towards immigrants but instead criminals. It was in a thread about police.
I have said all of this before in a earlier comment:
I hope you understand my views now.
No one is illegal on stolen land. The United States has no actual right to exist, and therefore has no actual right to deport people.
Drug dealers are supplying a demand created by citizens and governments have no right to tell people what substances they may or may not put in their own bodies. You address harmful drug use by providing people with a life they don’t feel a desperate need to escape from, not by taking anyone’s freedom.
I understand your views just as I understood them before. I understand that you’re attempting to downplay the murder of children by imperialists and probably have a biased or vested interest in doing so.
Do you have working eyes?
Why are you not quoting the part where they say they cross-checked that the videos were real and the building was correctly identified ?
Well it wouldn’t be an Israeli strike without at least one school being blown to bits.
Exporting Trump Sponsored Terrorism and GOP war on women and children to the whole world.
I wanted to upvote this but then saw it already has 666…
yes let’s make a meme joke on a serious post what are you like 14
Wasn’t joking… glad to see it now has 722… 23 with my vote… I’m 33… 34 in 1 week
That’s worse, actually
I’m sure this won’t drive the people of Iran right into the arms of new leader once he is picked. /s
That’s what liberation from oppression looks like or so…
/s