Russia Launches Massive Attack On Ukraine, Targeting Energy Infrastructure
(www.rferl.org)
from Joker@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2024 08:52
https://sh.itjust.works/post/28215379
from Joker@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 2024 08:52
https://sh.itjust.works/post/28215379
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Am I wrong in thinking “Russia launches massive attack on Ukraine” is a headline I see weekly, after which I don’t hear about any gains by Russia?
You can check the updates using this map to see Russian gains in the war.
Here is the latest update:
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/9ef1b8fd-af2e-4451-8c15-440a6c57cf0e.png">
Okay, but that really doesn’t answer my question. I’m talking about week by week not everything after almost two years ago. Of course they have occupied more of Ukraine once they invaded.
I think the point is that you can recheck it weekly if you want to see how much it changed.
That will let me answer that question weeks from now. Which isn’t especially helpful.
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The best resource I’ve found is ISW.
Just glancing at it, that looks quite informative. I’ll take a deeper look later. Thanks.
Here you go, someone made sure to archive the page almost every week atleast
web.archive.org/web/…/deepstatemap.live/#6/49.438…
I dont know how much helpful this will be for you though
Thank you.
I used to look at that site quite often but can you explain where I am shoving my head up my ass on that image you posted.
Shouldn’t: Total Temp occupied = (Occupied after + occupied before - liberated )?
Nah it’s Occupied after = Total temporary occupied - liberated. At least approximately. Occupied before seems to be included in occupied after, that is, both numbers count Crimea and the “people’s republics”.
Ah okay, must be the estimates that we’re throwing me, no matter how I put them together I had leftovers. And it wasn’t pizza, so I was disappointed.
Oh, wait, no: Total temp occupied = occupied after + occupied before makes more sense. It’s liberated which is not included in any equation and no bar shows currently occupied. which should be temp occupied - liberated.
Well it says “liberated” which should have been “stolen”.
Each side is trying to wear down the other rather than make massive territorial gains as in the early days of the war.
Russian gains aren’t usually connected to these attacks at all.
I wouldn’t say it’s a very effective invasion tactic in that case.
Don’t be so harsh on the second army in Ukraine.
Despite appearances, this is Russia trying to bomb things like tank factories. It’s just actually really hard without stealth and only some of their long range drones/missiles have good guidance systems. So they hardly ever hit what they’re aiming for, when they manage to make it past Ukrainian air defenses.
In the past they’ve just fired enough to level everything within the dispersion area. That’s more effective with artillery shells because they’re much harder to intercept. But they don’t have the range to reach strategic targets deep inside Ukraine.
That makes a lot of sense, thank you.
His statement is unfortunately untrue and part of the Russian narrative (although probably the poster is unaware).
Russia is deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure to freeze out Ukrainian civilians in the hopes they will force their government to capitulate. This is the modern version of carpet bombing cities. Their ballistic missiles are plenty accurate and the only types of weapons that can properly damage hard targets like powerplants.
Ukraine is cold now, and will be colder in a few weeks. By products of power generation is heat, and used for heating homes.
Russians target hospitals, universities, cultural centres and locations with a lot of citizens. They even do double tap attacks (hitting a civilian target like a coffee shop and then 7 minutes later… once first responders arrived hit the exact same place again).
A random housing block far behind the front might be deviated ordenance… hitting powerplants with a kinzal missile is not.
Fuck the west for making Ukraine fight in shackles.
The long range missile shackles where just taken off by Biden.
I saw it, this must have been my best timed comment ever
Biden was just scrolling through Lemmy and your comment was the final push
The west is the only reason they are able to fight at all.