That’s insane. Sure, an accidental discharge is an accident. Whatever.
Pointing the gun in the direction that an accidental discharge would kill somebody is a guilty act.
And having the gun loaded should be, too.
SARGE@startrek.website
on 14 Feb 2026 13:54
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For the same reason that half the MAGAts in government that we have crimes + named suspects with mountains of evidence, and still no trial.
The same reason donld Trump incited a crowd of people, on camera, to go try and overthrow the government on a cold January morning 6 years ago, and despite people dying and people being murdered in the attempt, the person we have on camera starting it is now the goddamn president instead of in a cell or pine box.
We have no justice system. It only ever existed for whichever out group is being targeted. The rich and influential don’t exist in those groups and instead of trying to hide that like they used to, nowadays they just openly flaunt it.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 2026 04:06
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The grand jury is an extension of the district attorney’s office. When a crime is suspected of being committed, the district attorney brings the evidence to a grand jury. Then the grand jury decides if the case can proceed to trial. It’s basically step 0 in the judicial process.
The prosecutor has a lot of discretion in what evidence the grand jury sees. They can do things like include evidence that they know won’t stand up in court, or intentionally exclude exculpatory evidence (that would prove the suspect’s innocence). Additionally, there is no defense attorney at the grand jury. Nobody has been charged with a crime yet, so the suspect can’t even defend themselves. The old joke among defense attorneys is that the grand jury would indict a ham sandwich for murder if the DA wanted them to.
The point of the grand jury is for the prosecutor to go “do I have enough evidence to go to trial?” They’re not deciding guilt. They’re just deciding if it’s even worth trying to prosecute a suspect. So the threshold for evidence is very low. On paper, the grand jury is meant to prevent frivolous charges and protect clearly innocent suspects. If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to go to trial, then the suspect is officially charged with a crime and the entire arrest+trial part of the prosecution kicks off.
But in reality, it is often just used as a scapegoat by the district attorney. The grand jury is anonymous, which makes them very convenient as a scapegoat. As far as the public is concerned, the grand jury is just a sort of massless, faceless blob. The DA is typically an elected position, which means they need to keep the public’s wants in mind. And this can come into conflict with the job, when they have a politically inconvenient case.
For example, let’s say a cop kills someone in broad daylight, surrounded by bystander recordings. The public is out for blood. But the police union has privately told the DA that if charges get pressed, the cops will collectively stop cooperating as witnesses and won’t collect evidence at crime scenes. Functionally making the DA’s job impossible.
So the DA uses the grand jury as a scapegoat. They refuse to bring any evidence (because again, they can choose to exclude evidence), and then the grand jury refuses to indict because they were given no evidence. Then the DA jumps in front of the news cameras and goes “I tried my best, and I brought the case to the grand jury! But the big mean grand jury refused to indict! Remember that I’m fighting for you. Vote for me!” And the grand jury (as a faceless blob) can’t defend themselves and go “hey uhh, we would have indicted that cop if the DA brought any evidence…”
Zephorah@discuss.online
on 14 Feb 2026 15:29
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Since the Kirk shooting there has been a violent eruption of “we are done with you”, right to left. We are not to be discussed or argued with henceforth, only removed, by whatever means.
This is the rhetoric. Clearly, it is more than rhetoric.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 15:48
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Grand jury, not regular jury, which likely consists of rich white men that’s a holdover from Jim crow. Prosecutors who agree with the defendent and intentionally try for charges they know won’t stay. Texas.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:43
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the lightest charge, wrongful death, is civil. not criminal
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 21:55
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Because it’s okay, he still has 2 more daughters 👍
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone
on 14 Feb 2026 23:21
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To be fair you only really need one.
blattrules@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:21
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Have they at least taken his guns away since he’s clearly not responsible enough to own them? Oh wait, I forgot it was Texas for a second.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
on 14 Feb 2026 18:00
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@Canconda@lemmy.ca these are the moderates&right wingers you’re dealing w/in 🇺🇲
🫡✌️
Doomsider@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:05
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Let’s see if I got this right. He gets into an argument with his daughter where he says he doesn’t care if Donald Trump were to rape her because he has two more daughters. There is obviously no coming back from thinking let alone saying such a thing.
The next day he downs a bottle of wine and invites his daughter to his room right before she leaves back to England. In the room he claims she says she wants to see his handgun. As he pulls it out of the drawer it just happens to go off and also just happens to be aimed right at her.
Yeah, dude couldn’t let her live after what he had told her, it is pretty obvious. He tricks her to coming into his room where there is no witness and silences her forever.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 2026 03:20
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As he pulls it out of the drawer and it just happens to go off and also just happens to be aimed right at her.
Also worth noting that he shot her with a Glock. Glocks have a safety built directly into the trigger, which needs to be pressed before the trigger will move. It’s the blue part of the trigger in this image:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/f33ab269-9365-4188-9bd3-04579659abcb.webp">
In terms of “just happened to go off”, a Glock is just about as safe as you can get. The dude 1000% pulled the trigger, because that sprung lever needs to be pressed before the trigger will even begin to move.
victorz@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 20:40
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What is that title? “Man who shot British woman”?? Isn’t it a lot more interesting to say “Man who shot his own daughter”? Their relationship seems far more interesting and relevant to the situation than her country of origin, wtf is this journalism? Or am I missing something?
Snowclone@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 22:13
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they gotta soften it SOMEHOW!
avav2y1rs@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 00:05
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Because a) It’s now an international incident, and b) the source is BBC.
avav2y1rs@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 00:12
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Ah, I see part of the issue. OP is a butt for removing the familial link in their title. The BBC headline is more accurate.
susi7802@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 20:55
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You couldn’t make this shit up
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Feb 2026 21:55
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Mhm, an accident.
You don’t accidentally:
load a gun
pick the gun up
disengage the safety
point the gun at a person
put the finger on the trigger
The trigger can be very sensitive and you can accidentally shoot a gun. After all other safety precautions have been purposefully violated
The justice system in the US is quite unjust.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
on 14 Feb 2026 22:13
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I’m surprised they didn’t return on “negligence causing death” or so. The bar is lower.
But he was a red-stater, so maybe that’s …okay, now?
fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 2026 11:52
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what makes this worse is he was shooting a Glock. They have a different “safety” altogether. Designed specifically to prevent accidental discharge. He didn’t drop the gun or something. He had to put his finger on the trigger.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
on 14 Feb 2026 22:15
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That guy’s neighbours need to chip-in for a billboard. Just with her face.
Okay. Maybe a “no justice no peace” in small print.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 14 Feb 2026 23:53
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No justice no peace
Keener@lemmy.zip
on 15 Feb 2026 00:41
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This is fucking insanity
TwinTitans@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 04:13
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The United States is a failed nation. The decline is underway.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 04:35
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minorkeys@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 03:39
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You should look more to who runs the justice department rather than the nature of the crime. We are not all the same.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 04:21
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But that’s murder!
Guy was showing off his Glock during a family get together and the gun discharged because he didn’t know how to handle it properly.
GJ chose not to indict on the charges the DA tried to bring.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 01:43
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Yeah Texas is full of trumpers top to bottom. Those of us with actual brains have to fly low or risk decapitation by the jihadi emulators behind the badges
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 03:17
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Shit headline. A trumper murdered his own daughter after an argument about Trump. He then claimed “accident.”
He got away with it.
Could someone please explain to me how the fuck do you kill someone, even if it’s manslaughter, and not get tried over it?
It was an honor killing because she spoke against the Dear Leader. That’s legal in Texas, haven’t you heard?
No, I’m serious, please eli5… Where I’m from, murder + suspect = a trial…
I think the grand jury rule it an accidental discharge (because it’s Texas) and it’s how you kill somebody without being held accountable
That would still qualify as manslaughter.
I’m a man and I’m not laughing.
You don’t have to say it, I was already leaving.
Took me too long but come back so I can tell you to get outta here.
If the prosecutor tries you for the wrong charge they’re usually not allowed to try again with a lesser charge
They can if this never got past the grand jury.
It’s extremely uncommon for them to try, but Trump is normalizing it
That’s insane. Sure, an accidental discharge is an accident. Whatever.
Pointing the gun in the direction that an accidental discharge would kill somebody is a guilty act.
And having the gun loaded should be, too.
For the same reason that half the MAGAts in government that we have crimes + named suspects with mountains of evidence, and still no trial.
The same reason donld Trump incited a crowd of people, on camera, to go try and overthrow the government on a cold January morning 6 years ago, and despite people dying and people being murdered in the attempt, the person we have on camera starting it is now the goddamn president instead of in a cell or pine box.
We have no justice system. It only ever existed for whichever out group is being targeted. The rich and influential don’t exist in those groups and instead of trying to hide that like they used to, nowadays they just openly flaunt it.
The grand jury is an extension of the district attorney’s office. When a crime is suspected of being committed, the district attorney brings the evidence to a grand jury. Then the grand jury decides if the case can proceed to trial. It’s basically step 0 in the judicial process.
The prosecutor has a lot of discretion in what evidence the grand jury sees. They can do things like include evidence that they know won’t stand up in court, or intentionally exclude exculpatory evidence (that would prove the suspect’s innocence). Additionally, there is no defense attorney at the grand jury. Nobody has been charged with a crime yet, so the suspect can’t even defend themselves. The old joke among defense attorneys is that the grand jury would indict a ham sandwich for murder if the DA wanted them to.
The point of the grand jury is for the prosecutor to go “do I have enough evidence to go to trial?” They’re not deciding guilt. They’re just deciding if it’s even worth trying to prosecute a suspect. So the threshold for evidence is very low. On paper, the grand jury is meant to prevent frivolous charges and protect clearly innocent suspects. If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to go to trial, then the suspect is officially charged with a crime and the entire arrest+trial part of the prosecution kicks off.
But in reality, it is often just used as a scapegoat by the district attorney. The grand jury is anonymous, which makes them very convenient as a scapegoat. As far as the public is concerned, the grand jury is just a sort of massless, faceless blob. The DA is typically an elected position, which means they need to keep the public’s wants in mind. And this can come into conflict with the job, when they have a politically inconvenient case.
For example, let’s say a cop kills someone in broad daylight, surrounded by bystander recordings. The public is out for blood. But the police union has privately told the DA that if charges get pressed, the cops will collectively stop cooperating as witnesses and won’t collect evidence at crime scenes. Functionally making the DA’s job impossible.
So the DA uses the grand jury as a scapegoat. They refuse to bring any evidence (because again, they can choose to exclude evidence), and then the grand jury refuses to indict because they were given no evidence. Then the DA jumps in front of the news cameras and goes “I tried my best, and I brought the case to the grand jury! But the big mean grand jury refused to indict! Remember that I’m fighting for you. Vote for me!” And the grand jury (as a faceless blob) can’t defend themselves and go “hey uhh, we would have indicted that cop if the DA brought any evidence…”
Thank you.
Since the Kirk shooting there has been a violent eruption of “we are done with you”, right to left. We are not to be discussed or argued with henceforth, only removed, by whatever means.
This is the rhetoric. Clearly, it is more than rhetoric.
Grand jury, not regular jury, which likely consists of rich white men that’s a holdover from Jim crow. Prosecutors who agree with the defendent and intentionally try for charges they know won’t stay. Texas.
the lightest charge, wrongful death, is civil. not criminal
Because it’s okay, he still has 2 more daughters 👍
To be fair you only really need one.
Have they at least taken his guns away since he’s clearly not responsible enough to own them? Oh wait, I forgot it was Texas for a second.
@Canconda@lemmy.ca these are the moderates&right wingers you’re dealing w/in 🇺🇲
🫡✌️
Let’s see if I got this right. He gets into an argument with his daughter where he says he doesn’t care if Donald Trump were to rape her because he has two more daughters. There is obviously no coming back from thinking let alone saying such a thing.
The next day he downs a bottle of wine and invites his daughter to his room right before she leaves back to England. In the room he claims she says she wants to see his handgun. As he pulls it out of the drawer it just happens to go off and also just happens to be aimed right at her.
Yeah, dude couldn’t let her live after what he had told her, it is pretty obvious. He tricks her to coming into his room where there is no witness and silences her forever.
Also worth noting that he shot her with a Glock. Glocks have a safety built directly into the trigger, which needs to be pressed before the trigger will move. It’s the blue part of the trigger in this image:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/f33ab269-9365-4188-9bd3-04579659abcb.webp">
In terms of “just happened to go off”, a Glock is just about as safe as you can get. The dude 1000% pulled the trigger, because that sprung lever needs to be pressed before the trigger will even begin to move.
What is that title? “Man who shot British woman”?? Isn’t it a lot more interesting to say “Man who shot his own daughter”? Their relationship seems far more interesting and relevant to the situation than her country of origin, wtf is this journalism? Or am I missing something?
they gotta soften it SOMEHOW!
Because a) It’s now an international incident, and b) the source is BBC.
Ah, I see part of the issue. OP is a butt for removing the familial link in their title. The BBC headline is more accurate.
Oh my bad, I assumed that the title matched the article, as that is a common rule in a lot of news communities.
You couldn’t make this shit up
Mhm, an accident. You don’t accidentally:
The trigger can be very sensitive and you can accidentally shoot a gun. After all other safety precautions have been purposefully violated
The justice system in the US is quite unjust.
I’m surprised they didn’t return on “negligence causing death” or so. The bar is lower.
But he was a red-stater, so maybe that’s …okay, now?
what makes this worse is he was shooting a Glock. They have a different “safety” altogether. Designed specifically to prevent accidental discharge. He didn’t drop the gun or something. He had to put his finger on the trigger.
That guy’s neighbours need to chip-in for a billboard. Just with her face.
Okay. Maybe a “no justice no peace” in small print.
No justice no peace
This is fucking insanity
The United States is a failed nation. The decline is underway.
That’s what makes Putin very, very happy.
<img alt="image" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9ea8142f-3e74-407f-b44e-699eee45e970.jpeg?format=webp">
But that’s murder! If there’s one crime I thought could always rely on to be punished, it’s murder
Yep. The line is no longer drawn at murder.
And I just saw this… www.rawstory.com/trump-epstein-2675269942/
You should look more to who runs the justice department rather than the nature of the crime. We are not all the same.
Guy was showing off his Glock during a family get together and the gun discharged because he didn’t know how to handle it properly.
GJ chose not to indict on the charges the DA tried to bring.
Yeah Texas is full of trumpers top to bottom. Those of us with actual brains have to fly low or risk decapitation by the jihadi emulators behind the badges
USA failed state