MyOpinion@lemmy.today
on 20 Apr 14:53
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Just disgusting.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca
on 20 Apr 14:56
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I was reticent to post this, given that it’s based off of one person’s hearsay. What tipped me over is that it is confirmation of stories also relayed by Palestinian prisoners in the fall of 2025 (linked in the article) about the goings on in the Sde Teiman torture camp.
Al-Jazeera by the way reports that the IDF soldiers who were at the center of a very public case of gruesome sexual abuse of prisoners in the same torture camp are returning to duty.
End the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime. Boycott Divest Sanction. Criminals at the Hague.
Yes, someone who could not possibly have heard the Palestinian allegations has come forward to say they are true.
Of the two guards he spoke to, “one had seen this happen and said it was too awful to talk about. The other said that he had heard about it from others and believed it was true. This happened. This is happening still. The evidence is too overwhelming.”
I wouldn't call this overwhelming evidence. Could it have happened? Painfully, yes. Should an article have been published that guards have admitted this happens? Not on this evidence.
brownsugga@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 17:59
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i think regardless of the veracity of the article, the fact that israel has a TORTURE CAMP is something that should be highlighted
Presumably the Lemmy.world mods who have been criticised for silencing pro-Palestinian voices and pushing pro-Israeli messaging since October 2023.
Well known Zionists such as JordanLund and Gedaliyah who operate world and news. Backed by an admin team who have come to defend them at every criticism and taken only tokenistic action against them to ease public anger.
Search their names on YPTB, their histories are well documented.
It's based on one user interviewing another user who said it definitely happened. It was corroborated by a third user who said he had heard from others that it happens.
Can confirm. I heard it from a user who heard it from another guy who said he saw it online.
absolutetupperware@lemmy.today
on 20 Apr 16:00
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meanwhile Palestinians are forced into begging online for the means of survival, the bare minimum, that they should already be getting and they’re being labeled scammers. we are all complicit in this.
absolutetupperware@lemmy.today
on 20 Apr 19:44
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LOL the downvotes, if you think you don’t have blood on your hands you’re lying to yourself.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Apr 13:21
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War crimes apparently, the type of man made horrors beyond most human’s comprehension. I don’t get how we have such a large delta with the horrors preformed by israel and the coverage of the nation in the west. Being called anti-Semitic for calling out using dog rape as a tool to torture prisoners seems a bit bizarre.
People used to call those who spreads news of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion anti-Semitic as well. All those people were doing was calling out consuming the blood of kidnapped Christian children. How can you be for the murder of those innocent Christian kids?
Ragebait works on everyone. You just need to know what buttons to push.
crapwittyname@feddit.uk
on 21 Apr 11:59
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One source appears to be the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. It says in the article.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Apr 13:13
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Where did they get the information from?
Obscure self styled human rights organizations are often used to launder information and give it more credibility. This isn’t HRW, Amnesty, or B’Tselem. They aren’t perfect either, but more credible.
“geopolitical expert” it says. Here’s his Google scholar page. Seems legit. I mean I guess he is still “a guy on twitter”, in that he has a Twitter account
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 16:45
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Novara Media is a socialist news organization, so they definitely have a bias, but their informational reporting is no less credible than the BBC or Guardian. They have a decently large presence in the UK.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today
on 21 Apr 19:10
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X to doubt.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 19:29
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Why would their factual reporting not be reliable? Their core audience is extremely well educated who would not tolerate blatant falsehoods like right-wing tabloid audiences do.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today
on 21 Apr 20:30
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And yet, everybody smashed upvote on this rage bait without reading it. Education and wealth only gets you so far.
TBF they didn’t really make direct factual claims here, they just quoted the sources, so even if it’s not true it’s not a lie. I’m not sure how often Fox News just straight up lies either.
You’re wrong. I’ve been reading/listening to Novara every day for over five years. They are left wing in opinion, and 100% factual in their reporting. They are more responsible about correcting errors than the BBC or the Guardian. As the other response, I would have ditched them at any point if I found them to be dishonest.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 19:52
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Honestly, I hope this one is fake. It’s fucked up if real.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Apr 02:58
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I can offer up a story on it from a British Business magazine, if the Novara source seems biased or uncredible.
Western “civilization” reaction to Israel and Russia are amazing. If this were Russian we will see these war crimes in every media 24h , while with Israel, you get arrested or questioned for denouncing the crimes.
The horrors you commit in service of God. I know not what I believe as far as theology goes, but if there is any sort of benevolent god or gods, these people are going to face the worst punishment they have. If there are no gods, may this world give them the punishment they deserve, as unlikely as that may be. Organized religion is the worst thing to ever befall humanity, and it may wind up being the end of us someday. These actions would have made even most Nazis skittish.
This is a story told to us. The reality is religion has very little bearing on geopolitics, genocide and modern warfare. It is often used to demonize a group (think Muslim terrorists) and to rally people to a side without questioning why.
Religion isn’t the cause, it is just another convenient excuse.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 19:50
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GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 19:56
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This some Dirlewanger level shit
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
on 21 Apr 20:18
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How can you take part in subjecting other people to this kind of thing and still think you are justified in doing it? People that almost certainly had nothing to do personally with what your beef is with the more extreme members of their factions. They also can’t think that this serves any point other than to be sadistic, if your goal was complete annihilation you would just shoot them.
I mean, holy fuck.
UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe
on 21 Apr 21:12
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Just disgusting.
I was reticent to post this, given that it’s based off of one person’s hearsay. What tipped me over is that it is confirmation of stories also relayed by Palestinian prisoners in the fall of 2025 (linked in the article) about the goings on in the Sde Teiman torture camp.
Al-Jazeera by the way reports that the IDF soldiers who were at the center of a very public case of gruesome sexual abuse of prisoners in the same torture camp are returning to duty.
End the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime. Boycott Divest Sanction. Criminals at the Hague.
Thank you for the context. It's important.
Yes, someone who could not possibly have heard the Palestinian allegations has come forward to say they are true.
I wouldn't call this overwhelming evidence. Could it have happened? Painfully, yes. Should an article have been published that guards have admitted this happens? Not on this evidence.
i think regardless of the veracity of the article, the fact that israel has a TORTURE CAMP is something that should be highlighted
I don't think that's the official name.
That would be funny.
The rules of courtroom evidence cannot be the rules for journalism, or we would NEVER hear about atrocities like this.
euromedmonitor.org/…/“Another-genocide-behind-wal…
Dogs used as tools of rape are mentioned multiple times in the report.
That’s not a credible human rights organization. HRW or Amnesty are credible.
Who says they are not a credible organization?
The dog owners.
What the fuck
And that’s what we know, imagine all the things that will probably never get out.
Like the Palestinians… deathpenaltyinfo.org/israel-passes-mandatory-deat…
literally
I am tired boss. I am tired.
From the river to the sea, mods are siding with rapists
What mod actions are you referring to?
Presumably the Lemmy.world mods who have been criticised for silencing pro-Palestinian voices and pushing pro-Israeli messaging since October 2023.
Well known Zionists such as JordanLund and Gedaliyah who operate world and news. Backed by an admin team who have come to defend them at every criticism and taken only tokenistic action against them to ease public anger.
Search their names on YPTB, their histories are well documented.
It's based on one user interviewing another user who said it definitely happened. It was corroborated by a third user who said he had heard from others that it happens.
Can confirm. I heard it from a user who heard it from another guy who said he saw it online.
meanwhile Palestinians are forced into begging online for the means of survival, the bare minimum, that they should already be getting and they’re being labeled scammers. we are all complicit in this.
LOL the downvotes, if you think you don’t have blood on your hands you’re lying to yourself.
Scams are widespread, especially on social media.
There’s also a long tradition of smaller organizations collecting money for Palestinian children, and then the money is funneled to Hamas.
If you want to donate, great, but be careful where you send your money. There are legitimate aid organizations as well.
Cadus does fantastic work in Gaza, Ukraine, and elsewhere. They don’t have such a huge overhead of promoters and admin like other organizations.
Whatthefuck
Israel should be disarmed.
*dissolved
They are holding biggest LGBT event or somethin in middle east in coming week ig so it makes it all good
Unconscionable
What the dog doin’?
War crimes apparently, the type of man made horrors beyond most human’s comprehension. I don’t get how we have such a large delta with the horrors preformed by israel and the coverage of the nation in the west. Being called anti-Semitic for calling out using dog rape as a tool to torture prisoners seems a bit bizarre.
People used to call those who spreads news of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion anti-Semitic as well. All those people were doing was calling out consuming the blood of kidnapped Christian children. How can you be for the murder of those innocent Christian kids?
What? No really, what are you talking about?
It is chumming for racists to change the subject hiding as dark sarcasm
i have no words
“Source I’ve never seen claims someone on Twitter heard something outrageous from an anonymous source”
Did this happen? Maybe. Is this upvoted solely because of people’s pre-existing biases? Yup.
Ragebait works on everyone. You just need to know what buttons to push.
One source appears to be the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights. It says in the article.
Where did they get the information from?
Obscure self styled human rights organizations are often used to launder information and give it more credibility. This isn’t HRW, Amnesty, or B’Tselem. They aren’t perfect either, but more credible.
They got the information from someone who was raped by a dog. It says in the article.
The analyst in “says analyst” was a guy on Twitter.
It is mentioned that PCHR recorded similar testimony from a Palestinian source later on.
Again, maybe, maybe not.
“geopolitical expert” it says. Here’s his Google scholar page. Seems legit. I mean I guess he is still “a guy on twitter”, in that he has a Twitter account
Novara Media is a socialist news organization, so they definitely have a bias, but their informational reporting is no less credible than the BBC or Guardian. They have a decently large presence in the UK.
X to doubt.
Why would their factual reporting not be reliable? Their core audience is extremely well educated who would not tolerate blatant falsehoods like right-wing tabloid audiences do.
And yet, everybody smashed upvote on this rage bait without reading it. Education and wealth only gets you so far.
TBF they didn’t really make direct factual claims here, they just quoted the sources, so even if it’s not true it’s not a lie. I’m not sure how often Fox News just straight up lies either.
Fox News lies often. And the BBC does this kind of thing all the time.
You’re wrong. I’ve been reading/listening to Novara every day for over five years. They are left wing in opinion, and 100% factual in their reporting. They are more responsible about correcting errors than the BBC or the Guardian. As the other response, I would have ditched them at any point if I found them to be dishonest.
Honestly, I hope this one is fake. It’s fucked up if real.
I can offer up a story on it from a British Business magazine, if the Novara source seems biased or uncredible.
ibtimes.co.uk/un-report-systematic-sexual-violenc…
Cool, thanks.
I feel sorry for the dogs. The IDF could add some chapters to their SS and NKVD manuals. Disgusting, sick and evil creatures.
Rooting for Israel to get nuked at this point.
Rooting for us all to get nuked in the west tbh.
That’s the goal from the US evangelical point of view. Makes you think.
No dude what the actual fuck
Western “civilization” reaction to Israel and Russia are amazing. If this were Russian we will see these war crimes in every media 24h , while with Israel, you get arrested or questioned for denouncing the crimes.
Using DOGS to RAPE people is CLEARLY spelt out in the TORAH you ANTI SEMITE!
-The BBC!
A sentence I neither expected to see nor wanted to.
Like unholy shit, what the hell is going on with those people?
Can’t say shit about Isreal even though they’re fucked up like this
Who thought that the lesson they would take away from the Holocaust would be to “Pay it forward?”
War crime Nr. … how much already?
-2147483648
The horrors you commit in service of God. I know not what I believe as far as theology goes, but if there is any sort of benevolent god or gods, these people are going to face the worst punishment they have. If there are no gods, may this world give them the punishment they deserve, as unlikely as that may be. Organized religion is the worst thing to ever befall humanity, and it may wind up being the end of us someday. These actions would have made even most Nazis skittish.
Ngl I am pretty disilluisoned with the whole “Both sides are fighting for religious reasons” thing.
Israel is fighting because zionists are colonizer nazis and palestine is fighting because Israel is colonizer nazis.
I completely agree, but I don’t see where GP would imply Palestine is fighting for religious reasons.
This is a story told to us. The reality is religion has very little bearing on geopolitics, genocide and modern warfare. It is often used to demonize a group (think Muslim terrorists) and to rally people to a side without questioning why.
Religion isn’t the cause, it is just another convenient excuse.
I really should have just went to sleep.
Absolutely abhorrent.
Good night, everyone.
Also here’s a topical petition
citizens-initiative.europa.eu/…/000005_en
This some Dirlewanger level shit
How can you take part in subjecting other people to this kind of thing and still think you are justified in doing it? People that almost certainly had nothing to do personally with what your beef is with the more extreme members of their factions. They also can’t think that this serves any point other than to be sadistic, if your goal was complete annihilation you would just shoot them.
I mean, holy fuck.
Admittedly, I’m not going to read this.
How is it even possible?! On the physical level.
Wtf