IDF eliminates Mustafa Daloul, central Hamas commander in Gaza
(www.i24news.tv)
from alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 08:16
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from alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 03 Nov 2023 08:16
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Killed about a dozen children to get him though /s
Was my first reaction too, how many dead children?
dci-palestine.org/3_760_palestinian_children_kill…
Excuse me, I believe the term used was “human animals”, so they would be “human animal young”, not children.
/s, also fuck this world
What is a water bomb? (From the video)
Probably floods the tunnel, which actually sounds like an excellent solution
How many innocent children needed to die for this achievement?
Almost like Hamas is systematically using civilians as human shields.
Even given that, Israel still has choices about what it does and responsibility for it. Israel is not forced to mass-murder civilians.
Hamas is making sure there aren’t any other options.
Yeah the underdog always calls the shots…lmfao what a joke
That’s not how real life works.
The good guys aren’t supposed to shoot the hostages.
Right, Israel should just roll over an accept all death and destructing of their own people just because the Hamas doesn’t give a fuck about theirs?
They can defend themselves WITHOUT SHOOTING THE HOSTAGES!
Please explain how? Sit there and eat rockets all day?
Definitely not by murdering and displace people.
Okay, so explain how then.
Use OPIR, COMINT, HUMINT, OSINT, GEOINT and drone imagery alongside sleeper cell infiltrators alongside PRISM and the NSA database to locate the targets, then use one of the following:
Which video game did you get that all out of?
I’m a submariner and have chats with SEALs. What do you do for a living?
Shill on Lemmy
Isntreal boasts having one of the strongest militaries in the region if not in the world until it doesn’t benefit its ethnical cleansing plan and then plays dumb.
You know what a strong military does? avoids going in on suicide missions.
It’s not a suicide mission if you use all the means available to already have the information you need for the mission available. It’s how we got Bin Laden and tossed his dead body in the ocean. It’s how we got Saddam. It’s how we put a metal shard through Solemani. It’s how we tapped Russian underwater cables for years without them even suspecting it.
Israeli Intel: lots of terrorists popping out of random tunnels everywhere. Civilian meat shields present at all points.
Now tell me how it makes such missions any safer knowing that? The situations you described is nothing like the urban warfare in Gaza.
If that’s all the intel you think is showing up on SIPR and JWICS then I have beachfront property to sell you in Kansas.
Don’t need to.
Lmao they should just stop colonising? And end apartheid? Like how hard is it to understand? A colonised people will keep fighting until they are dead.
The same way the police deal with people that have taken hostages. Or the same way the US military deals with them. BY NOT KILLING THE HOSTAGES.
You are putting an awful lot of effort into purposefully not understanding this concept.
The US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists as a policy. the police isn’t dealing with people hell bent on murdering them, their family, and all their friends.
The fact that you think your scenarios are related shows you don’t understand the situation.
They don’t negotiate with terrorists, but they also don’t purposefully shoot their hostages either, now do they?
The US negotiates with terrorists every single day. That’s just a political slogan. In reality you do want to talk with everyone involved, even if you’re planning on betraying and murdering them at the end anyway. The US has negotiated with almost every single terrorist organization in existence worldwide. That’s like, the main job of the CIA when they’re not too busy smuggling drugs.
It’s called counter insurgency. But it involves thinking about the civilian population as real human beings with rights.
Nobody said that but you
No one said that. Why do you make it sound like this is the only other option?
The last dude was found hiding in a refugee camp. His decision to hide there doomed others in the camp. They do it on purpose because one side will sometimes play by the rules. Terrorists exploit that.
Yep, they have been doing this for decades.
It’s almost a win-win for them. Either they avoid getting bombed … or they don’t but they get to play the victim card and point the finger at Israel. That’s literally their playbook.
If only there were some way to go into the refuge camp and kill ONLY THE TERRORIST, instead of firing missiles blindly into the camp.
If only the other refugees would rise against Hamas and stop supporting them.
If only Israelis could stop supporting a genocidal extremist government.
If I recall correctly, Israelis were all out in the streets protesting their government just a month or so ago.
Not enough
Yes indeed but they were not to remove the settlements let’s be honest! Despite my Muslim background I have nothing against Israel just FYI, this my-side your-side shit is moronic. I have met and partied hard with many Israelis and, if I may say so, the extremism on their side is not part of the common narrative at all. Because most Israelis are lovely modern people, they assume the entire country is like them and genuinely wonder why they are hated so much. Part of me wishes Israel (the secular part) would flat out withdraw from settlements to sweep a leg (one of many) out from under the Muslim extremists and expose the Arabs for the hypocrites that they are. But they never will because Israel has designs of its own my brother, and that is the truth of the matter as much as it may sting.
How many of them support Hamas though?
Hamas exists. A Palestinian resistance to Hamas could exist as well (and would likely be supported by Israel and the United States). Yet, there does not seem to be any Palestinian resistance to their violent and corrupt Hamas overlords.
Their choice is either Hamas, a violent and corrupt warlord, or Fatah, a submissive and corrupt government. Both choice will result in them getting oppressed and drive out from their land.
That’s not a good yardstick to measure this.
I mean... They could form a new, democratic government? This isn't rocket science. Why are the only choices that current, dysfunctional regimes? They wouldn't be the first country in living memory to create a new democracy, if they chose to attempt it.
Have you fought agaist a militant government with your democratic vote? When is the last time they even have election?
This is so very close to saying Jew are responsible for their own prosecution.
STFU zionist
Proximity shielding the wya Israel uses itet is pure BS. Read about it. Almost every use of it is questionable and made to kill civilians.
To all the commentators that obviously know better how to act in a war:
How should Israel act to defend its citizens from the ongoing attacks? How should Israel act, so that Hamas will never be able to harm civilians again?
And don’t tell us what you DON‘T want, tell us what you DO want.
This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.
The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.
The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.
However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.
So you are saying the Islamic State / IS / Daesh was also the product of „conditions that made them necessary“?
Do you know that the Palestinian authorities have denied EVERY attempt of a two state solution since 1948? Why would „they“ now accept borders, they have categorically denied before?
“they have denied every attempt at two state solution”
Usual Israeli propaganda to continue the victimhood facade. Israel takes a shit on what a two-state solution should look like, of course the Arabs will bloody reject it.
Yeah, you should probably hear it from Hamas directly, what they think about peace:
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html
Hamas is not the magical conversation stopper that is in within Israel. Hamas is the direct result of Israel’s foreign policy and sidelining of moderate elements. Quoting Hamas is like quoting a frothing settler or Likud party member.
Did they? Or is it Netanyahu? Palestinian Authority had repeatedly demand for the 1948 border to be respected, and evict all the violent illegal settler from the west bank, and Israel repeatedly refused.
So you want to pretend this is about the creation of a two state solution?
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html
You either talk about Hamas, or you talk about Palestinian Authority, both are different entity and you’re just disingenuous for thinking they’re the same and you should feel bad.
The difference is the fact that gangs didn’t just go around and steal all the food from their own neighbors to make sure they all remained poor and starving on purpose. It’s not a good comparison at all.
Sure, it’s Hamas that makes Palestinians poor and not the economic blockade enforced by the Israeli offense force. And the bulldozing. And the constant bombardment. And the settler incursions. 🤣
Yes, it is in fact Hamas. They take all the aid brought in and use it to build terror tunnels and keep their own stock. That’s why Hamas still has plenty of food, fuel, and medicine, while the Palestinian people are short on all of that.
And certainly not Israel giving Palestinians in Gaza permits to work low paying slave jobs that they would otherwise not have to work 🤣 Israel is a fucking clown I swear
Old DoomBot there is chock full of bad arguments with a helpful dose of plugging their ears, closing their eyes, and humming loudly when facts don’t fit their worldview.
Don’t expect anything like internally consistent logic or any sort of concessions from them. Their goal posts move far and often. I’d block them but they’re good for a laugh.
They should have thought about this when they literally picked this place for their state and other people had already claimed that land fairly.
Israel got this land assigned from Great Britain after the 2nd world war who at the time had the right to it after the Ottoman Empire was destroyed.
Also Jewish people were living there for thousands of years before.they were kicked out illegitimately.
Who has the “right” to this country depends how far you go back and that argument is not helping at all in the current conflict.
Or would you say that American people should just 'endure the rockets" if the ancestors from native americans started bombing New York?
Even if what happened at the time was unjust it doesn’t give the other party a free reign to do whatever they want
Got assigned this land.??? People were living there already. England just kicked them out. That’s somehow ok with you.
By being defensive, not by killing children rofl
so that means they dont need to murder innocents anymore right??
Wrong. They want to eliminate the very last Hamas fighter while totally ignoring the Hydra effect.