EU to double funding to attract US scientists fleeing Trump (english.elpais.com)
from neme@lemm.ee to world@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 01:27
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Draegur@lemm.ee on 22 Mar 01:47 next collapse

Hoo boy here comes the brain drain!

Maybe Europe can call it operation stapler…

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 03:05 next collapse

~…swingline~ ~stapler…~

kescusay@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 03:27 next collapse

It actually started the day after the election. People are actively searching for ways to escape this shit-hole country.

I know I am.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 05:30 collapse

I left after I saw how we handled covid. I have friends who started looking in November of 2016 and family who did in January of 2001. We didn’t start the fire.

Nasan@sopuli.xyz on 22 Mar 05:49 collapse

So it’s happening in reverse, he’s burning the place down before his red Swingline keeps getting taken.

rumschlumpel@feddit.org on 22 Mar 01:54 next collapse

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the EU and its members don’t fumble this opportunity (both for themselves and for the scientists). Many EU countries are having a resurgence of anti-immigration sentiments and e.g. in Germany the immigration bureaucracy was already extremely awful before the recent shift to the right - it’s one thing to be shitty and stupid about refugees, but by what I hear from friends who have personal experiences it’s pretty bad for highly qualified people, too.

azimir@lemmy.ml on 22 Mar 02:06 next collapse

So far my German immigration process has been hazy at every step. It’s more like the information isn’t clear and the process requires careful reading of shifting rules all the time. Not so much antagonism, more like underfunded infrastructure.

rumschlumpel@feddit.org on 22 Mar 02:15 next collapse

It would be dangerous to assume that the underfunded infrastructure is an accident, though.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 05:33 collapse

If you haven’t already, try bringing a German with you to the ausländerbehörde. It’s wild how much politer and more attentive they are

azimir@lemmy.ml on 22 Mar 19:33 collapse

That is a gute Idee.

I’ll make a note and see if I can convince someone to tag along for our appointment.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 08:50 collapse

I’m tall, blue eyed, fluent in German, and I married a German, so racists always consider me “one of the good ones”(until they actually talk to me). It was still absolutely night and day to go with my husband. It’s probably worth buying a friend lunch.

ogmios@sh.itjust.works on 22 Mar 02:45 next collapse

Mass immigration is literally insane, and betrays a fundamental lack of understanding about what societies actually require in order to function. I’m strongly suspicious these policies are being pushed by technocrats who want computers to take over managing social interactions, and so they need to ruin the natural state of real world public spaces so people have nowhere else to go.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 00:29 collapse

So you’re saying you consider a visit to the park to be “ruined” if you happen to see an immigrant? I don’t think the immigrant is the one with the problem here…

ogmios@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 00:55 collapse

You know, at some point you’re going to actually have to engage with people honestly, if you actually want to see a good tomorrow.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 23 Mar 02:32 collapse

Engagement with what? I’m confused.

Trihilis@ani.social on 22 Mar 06:13 next collapse

It’s pretty sad a lot of people are dumb and racist.

They don’t hate immigrants, they just hate assholes. And being an asshole is not related to where you’re from. Shitty right wing politicians just want to make everyone believe it’s immigrants.

Some of the worst people I know have been born and raised in the country I live in.

mumblerfish@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 06:38 collapse

I’m thinking the same. The anti-immigration stuff already is hitting researchers. Getting registrerd, getting a bank account, a phonenumber, the apps (in sweden it is more or less necessary to have an id-app created by a cartel of banks). All of them are growing problems for immigrants in general and researchers in particular.

PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 07:15 collapse

I don’t think there will be any issues if they are white enough.

mumblerfish@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 07:20 collapse

This affects EU citizens too. I myself had problems moving back to my own contry.

RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 01:43 collapse

I think this is the worst part it will take multiple decades to recover from science losses.