The “Signalgate” Memes Have Entered the Chat
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from nkat2112@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 27 Mar 2025 12:44
https://sh.itjust.works/post/35114259
from nkat2112@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 27 Mar 2025 12:44
https://sh.itjust.works/post/35114259
Minutes before the United States launched a deadly missile campaign in Yemen that reportedly killed 53 people and wounded 89, including multiple children, on March 15, the Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg was sitting in his car in a grocery store parking lot waiting for the attack.
The story is now well-known and well-memed: Days before the missile barrage, Goldberg was added to a Signal group chat called “Houthi PC small group” after President Donald Trump’s national security advisor, Michael Waltz, invited him to connect on the encrypted message application. The editor was included in the discussion inadvertently, a spokesperson for the National Security Council acknowledged to the Atlantic.
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Big Bird and Jeffrey Goldberg are the heroes we do not deserve.
NB: These are memes about the signal etc, not memes FROM the signal etc.
👊🏼🇺🇸💥
Can we retire the “-gate” suffix please?
Nope… we’re going to have the biggest gates, the best gates, a tremendous amount of gates, to levels nobody has seen before.
So far from off the top of my head:
And too many more to list…
Omg! Is this the start of -gategate??
Save time and just classify them all as Trumpgate. Basically spans the entirety of 2016 to 2028 (and if we’re in the worst possible timeline long after that as well). Trump was already one of the worst presidents in recent memory, but now he’s shooting for the worst of all time. He’s going to go down as the president that either destroyed the US or nearly did. At minimum I’m expecting him to be remembered as the cause of the second great depression as well as a significant contributor to instability and war in Europe and Asia (I would include the middle east as well, but that’s pretty much business as usual there).
Gategate has already happened
I’m not even sure what prompted the use of “gate”. What does it mean?
It’s based on a Nixon-era scandal
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
Ah, watergategate
Not until they find some other way to make extremely concerning, bordering-on-treason actions sound like a toddler dropping their milkshake on the ground.
Not until we have Elongate pls
Yes the meme resistance!!! We got em!!! \s \s \s
This does big bird dirty.
It’s whiskeyleaks, not signalgate. The problem was the users in question couldn’t put together a Duplo set without help with a toddler. Signal is great in terms of opsec if you’re not an idiot.
The illegality of self-destructing messages in this sort of discussion is an adjacent but separate matter, but it is still (supposed to be) very illegal.
But I guess it’s ok because the DUI hire is “doing his best”.
Why does that mean it’s not signalgate? The name watergate comes from the luxury Watergate hotel in Washington DC where a crime was comitted. Having this conversation on Signal is unquestionably illegal, whether extra people were invited or not, and the scandal is because the conversation being on Signal, not because somebody may have been drunk.
I don’t like using that moniker for the clusterfuck because I feel like it implies something’s wrong with Signal. There’s not. There’s something wrong with the set of drunken shitsacks that used it like complete fucking imbeciles.
There’s nothing wrong with the Watergate or pizza either.
lol true, that’s a totally fair critique of my logic
Tbf, Signal, and most modern chat clients with multi-device syncing are not great for opsec.
When it comes to privacy from mass surveillance or using your metadata to mine demographic preferences who you are talking to etc Signal sits at the top of generally available chat clients.
But it’s geared for the convenience and privacy of the average user not military security.
Eg: when it comes to group chats you just have to get one of the members of the chat to fall for a device syncing link, for then the whole group chat future messages to become available to the attacker. What’s more, no admin or other user of the chat gets to have approval or visibility privileges or notification of a new synced device for that chat or any info about the status of each of the devices on that chat.
For most normal users, Signal is pretty much as good as it gets. Sure, I can set up a similar bespoke e2e protocol for myself, but I’m also a software engineer with near on two decades of experience. That’s not a reasonable or feasible expectation for the vast majority of the population.
Military security (or military grade whatever) is a buzzword that makes sense in some contexts. In a lot of them, it doesn’t.
For example, for a lot of military-grade products you can have assumptions that are not always given for a platform that messenger operate on. Like that the device is always stored in a secure location. That it’s administered by trained personnel. That the device operator has received training on proper usage etc. In fact, a lot of military systems probably couldn’t be operated securely in a John Doe context b because of environmental security requirements. In that regard, messengers have to be more secure.