Putin says 'all of Ukraine is ours' as he eyes Sumy city (www.dw.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 01:43
https://lemmy.world/post/31742639

Vladimir Putin has revived a controversial narrative, claiming that theoretically “all of Ukraine is ours.” He also sparked more immediate concerns with comments about seizing Ukraine’s city of Sumy.

Vladimir Putin has declared that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people” and that, in that sense, “all of Ukraine is ours.”

The assertion underscores Moscow’s continued underlying rejection of Ukrainian sovereignty and raises renewed alarm over Russia’s territorial ambitions.

Speaking at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum on Friday, Putin issued a series of provocative remarks, notably stating: “We have a saying… where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours.”

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baronvonj@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 02:03 next collapse

He looks like he’s wearing his skin as a mask. Like a Roboputin.

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ms_lane@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 03:24 next collapse

I want to take his face… off.

hakunawazo@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 12:03 collapse
wewbull@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 10:33 collapse

I think it’s a very heavy makeup line. His actual skin colour is what you see under his hair.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 10:49 collapse

Taking a page out of trumps coloring book? Hmm.

wewbull@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 11:08 collapse

Dictators can’t look old and frail.

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 02:06 next collapse

I eagerly await the day I read the headline we’re all waiting for.

Honestly, there’s multiple headlines we’re all waiting for.

Geobloke@lemm.ee on 21 Jun 04:14 collapse

An obituary?

Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org on 21 Jun 06:07 collapse

More like 100

boydster@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jun 02:17 next collapse

If they are one people, then all of Russia is also Ukraine. And I happen to think Zelenskyy is a more legitimate leader.

I wonder if there’s a localized zone where there is some sort of really great density of people who consider themselves Ukrainians. And I wonder if there exists some distinguishable boundary between them - culturally, societally, dare I say politically - where on one side an individual would expect to encounter a Ukrainian, versus on the other side, where they would more probably expect to encounter a non-Ukrainian?

Edit: Maybe an edge? A ridge? Something that describes a clearly defined boundary between two distinct areas that are closely related in many regards while also being clearly distinguishable based on the split that defines the division between said areas…

Edit again: I swear it’s on the tip of my tongue. So frustrating. A line, maybe? That seems closer, but not quite there.

andrewta@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 02:23 next collapse

Well I’m standing on the planet so the world is mine.

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 02:27 next collapse

Sure, but is it really yours if you can’t control it?

HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 02:40 next collapse

That’s one way to say denazification was bullshit

stacktrace_whisperer@programming.dev on 21 Jun 03:13 next collapse

Like with “3-day special military operation” when Putin speaks it’s all foot.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 03:22 next collapse

Lane says all of Russia belong to Australia.

What now poots?

thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Jun 06:32 next collapse

That clearly shows, which value any negotiation with Putin have: none, none at all

He wants Ukraine to, all of it. No matter what.

Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Jun 07:45 collapse

Even worse, negotiations have negative value since master of negotiations, the Orange himself, started his 24hrs peace plan.

GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml on 21 Jun 06:45 next collapse

I think it’s high time Finland retakes Karelia, on account of how thinly stretched Russia must be at this point.

Mihies@programming.dev on 21 Jun 07:43 next collapse

Russia is fortifying along Finland border though.

DontAskAboutUpdog@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 07:00 collapse

How about no? That would be a political and economic disaster. That is, unless the Finns would somehow be ok with ethnically cleansing the russians and converting the while area to a nature reserve.

mcv@lemm.ee on 21 Jun 07:07 next collapse

If he really believes the two countries should be united, he could always decide to surrender to Ukraine and give Ukraine control over Russia. I’m sure Ukraine would do a better job of governing Russia than Putin has done.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 21 Jun 07:55 next collapse

And you still have a lot of people saying that if we just traded more with Russia and didn’t add countries to NATO, this wouldn’t have happened.

d00ery@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 10:20 next collapse

Look at trump and his tariffs - trade is very important.

Miaou@jlai.lu on 21 Jun 11:48 collapse

That’s… Neither wrong, nor related to this article? Unless you have a crystal ball somewhere, that is?

runiq@feddit.org on 21 Jun 08:11 next collapse

And there it is. Finally out in the open, by the asshole-in-chief himself. “Denazification”? “Caring for the Russian minority in Ukraine”? Ha, as if. All this bullshit has ever been is to quiesce one man’s megalomania.

From the deepest depths of my heart I say: Fuck you, you fucking prick, fuck your propaganda machine, and fuck your sycophantic bootlickers.

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 21 Jun 12:18 collapse

He was open about it before. He said it during the Tuck’s interview

x00z@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 10:01 next collapse

I thought it was because of Nazis. Or because of NATO. Or because of <insert bullshit here>.

Not because of <insert imperialism here>.

Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 10:45 collapse

He just really needs those ship docks.

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smiletolerantly@awful.systems on 21 Jun 11:08 collapse

Is it just me or has the number of lunatics on Lemmy really spiked in the past week? I mean, look at this guy… Or have we “finally” been discovered by the disinformation bots?

xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 21 Jun 11:14 collapse

There may have been a small uptick overall, but that one is disproportionately insane, I think

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 21 Jun 11:47 next collapse

Ukraine decided it wasn’t in 1991

TheBeege@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 11:57 next collapse

From the Wikipedia article on Russia’s playbook: “Foundations of Geopolitics”

Ukraine (except Western Ukraine) should be annexed by Russia because “Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics”. Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible according to Western political standards. As mentioned, Western Ukraine (comprising the regions of Volynia, Galicia, and Transcarpathia), considering its Catholic-majority population, are permitted to form an independent federation of Western Ukraine but should not be under Atlanticist control.

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 21 Jun 12:19 next collapse

Israel = russia Both using the same excuses to justofy occupation and genocide

DontAskAboutUpdog@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 06:43 collapse

Except nobody attacked russia. Just a tiny detail that, you know, breaks the whole ruzzian argument.

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 22 Jun 12:30 collapse

Ukraine didn’t attack russia as a response to russia agression? Palestinian has the right to defend itself and fight occupation. Israel attacked first in 67 and kept killing people, steal their homes since 48

zymagoras777@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 12:24 next collapse

I’m just wondering when is this POS is going to die.

brown567@sh.itjust.works on 21 Jun 12:50 next collapse

You leave Sumy alone, ya bastard! That’s where Shurap lives!

random_character_a@lemmy.world on 21 Jun 14:03 next collapse

“We have a saying… where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours.”

So, Putin is saying everyone should fire upon Russian forces everywhere outside Russia with no hesitation or questions asked?

Aimeeloulm@feddit.uk on 21 Jun 15:11 collapse

By this same idiotic logic we all could do the same, put boots on Russian soil and claim it and the people are ours…lol…would be funny to turn around and give Putin a scare along these lines XD

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 22 Jun 07:54 collapse

all your base are belong to us.