UK Prime Minister says he 'felt sick' watching footage of bleeding student handcuffed by the police. The murderer accused him of racism. Police did not believe the victim.
(www.bbc.com)
from Wudi@feddit.uk to world@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 20:46
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from Wudi@feddit.uk to world@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 20:46
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It gets worse. His brother lied. His father tried to cover up the victim’s injuries by propping him up. His mother hid the knife.
All should be charged… That’s fucked
Ok, but why did the murderer stab the guy? They have an allegedly false reason that has been given, and also only relies on witness testimony. So what was the allegedly true reason???
Fucking pigs are everywhere the same
A-C-A… What’s the point anymore? Also:
The fucking cheek, there’s real evidence for this being the case and I’m pretty sure reform/conservatives will like what that evidence says. Anyways I’ll just leave this here
Also pretty fucking bold of the Tories to make such claims when they're the fucking reason policing is in the current state...
US and UK getting more and more alike by the day
Look at what connects them. End private media.
The BBC is the biggest public media organisation on the planet….
Getting less and less funding by the day, and struggling to weather the storm of alternative media, just like the rest of the established old-press.
One has yet to cross the line into building death camps, I hope they don’t.
Watch this case, these are far-right protesters claiming:
france24.com/…/20260602-i-can-t-breathe-outrage-v…
It’s tailor-made for them. They’ve been complaining for decades that sikhs are allowed to carry daggers in public for religious reasons, and now someone’s been murdered with one, and when the police came they arrested the victim for racism.
Wee Tommy and the rest of the far right mob will dining out on this for years.
He was murdered by a second, much larger, knife, which wasn’t covered by the allowance for ceremonial knives for religious reasons, so the killer was already breaking existing knife laws. It’s not like Steven Yaxley ‘Tommy Robinson’ Lenon and his supporters will ever care about this, though.
Ffs the poor kid got martyred so now the media and fascists outlets are going to have a field day.
You know the left can also put up an effort to overwhelm them as well
I thought we were supposed to punch Nazis in the face. Here, it looked like a Nazi was punished for his racist opinions.
It turns out he wasn't a Nazi. Some people of color had falsely accused him and covered up the severity of the attack on him. But in the Lemmyverse, we can tell who's who, so the Nazis don't need a trial.
What in the world are you talking about?
I think maybe I get it, and there could be a reasonable thought buried deep in the short spurt of nonsense.
But dude’s gotta learn to speak if that’s the case.
A world in which it's ok to punch Nazis in the face because no one ever makes a mistake.
So punching someone in the face it’s equal to stabbing someone to death, according to you?
I don't think we should stab or punch people because we suspect they are Nazis. If they commit a crime, let the criminal justice system take care of it. I'm not in favor of vigilantism.
I can hear your silent rage as we honour all those Nazi killers in the past. Why are you bringing up the 40’s anyway?
Is it ok to kill Nazis? Shoot them, bomb them, gas them, firebomb them? History tells us it’s so, certainly mistakes were made, but we consider it a net good. But merely punching them? That’s beyond the pale.
Noted. We should be bombing Hampshire.
Noted. You think Hampshire is full of Nazis? Why do you think Hampshire is full of Nazis?
How do you get from, history celebrates those that killed Nazis and that’s bad, to bombing Hampshire?
When people talk about punching Nazis in the face, they are talking (mostly) about people who were not even alive in the 1940s, let alone official members of the Nazi Party. They're talking about people who are in the modern right wing, or centrists, or in some cases liberal Democrats.
They advocate punching such people in the face because their hateful rhetoric can lead to violence.
You're the one connecting the celebration of bombing and "murdering" (I guess you think acts of war and judicial executions are murder) Nazis in the past to punching Nazis now. I think it wasn't OK to stab this victim even if he called the other guy a slur for Pakistanis. But others advocate extrajudicial acts of violence against "Nazis" where it's their rules and perceptions that determine who is a Nazi and who is not.
Bombing Birmingham because it might have some people with Nazi-adjacent political opinions seemed like a logical extension of your train of thought. You were mocking me for thinking punching Nazis is wrong because it was celebrated to kill actual Nazis during war and for crimes against humanity 80 years ago. So let's resume the bombings then.
That’s correct. That’s because they’ve learned the lessons of history.
You’re the one who said ’Nazi’. You could have said ‘racist’, you could have said bigot, you chose your word. You made that connection by choosing the words you did.
We agree, don’t stab the guy to death. What’s that got to do with punching Nazis? Do you think the victim was a nazi?
History, lessons. The people that visited violence against Nazis are heros or villains? Why is ’Nazi’ in quotes now?
Only if you believe Birmingham is full of Nazis. Else, you got some weird logic.
Correct, I was, I am. History tells us Nazis are good or bad? History tells us appeasing Nazis works or doesn’t? The lessons are there, easy to learn.
White guy was stabbed by a brown person. Brown person denied the stabbing and said the white person attacked him and it was racially motivated. Brown person was not attacked and white person ended up not being a racist piece of trash. Police arrested bleeding white guy, white guy tells police he is stabbed and can’t breathe. Police told white guy he was not stabbed and white guy died because of his injuries while being arrested.
I appreciate you summarising the actual story/news article, but that is not what I was asking about.
My comment was a reply to rambling about… “Lemmy says to punch Nazis and this is what happens when you don’t allow people to make mistakes” which was barely comprehensible, chock full of false assumptions about what happened and what Lemmy users think, and topped off with a smidge of Nazi apologia.
I think the comment I replied to has since been removed as I can’t see it anymore, so I’m guessing you saw my comment as a top-level comment. No biggie.
Anyway, while I’m here, I’ll leave my actual thoughts on the story itself, which is that it’s a horrible tragedy. It’s also sickening how the far right are hijacking his parents’ grief to stir division and make some delusional point about white people being oppressed in the UK. Police have a lot to answer for on this one.
Time to do nothing, once again
This is just cops being cops. They decide who’s guilty and innocent immediately and then treat people that way.
This is exactly why you should support minorities being treated fairly. While they’re the ones who get this treatment 95 times out of 100, the point is that skin color isn’t gonna save you. When cops decide they don’t like you, you’re fucked.
The murderers here did a good job of presenting the guy as the scumbag, and honestly it doesn’t take much of a nudge to get the cops to judge someone.
That video was a hard watch. He straight up told police he had been stabbed, yet they say “no you haven’t mate”
Some might say he felt …
… Sikh
Well, if he is right and the kid WAS racist then obviously it’s completely justified to let him slowly die, the kid got what he deserved!
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