from Sepia@mander.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 05 Jan 09:03
https://mander.xyz/post/44925251
cross-posted from: mander.xyz/post/44925200
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The fire that broke out on a bridge across the Teltow canal in the south-west of the capital early on Saturday could deprive up to 35,000 homes and 1,900 businesses of electricity – and in many cases heat – until 8 January, the grid company Stromnetz Berlin said.
As state security authorities opened an investigation into the cause of the blaze near the Lichterfelde heat and power station that damaged several high-voltage cables, the Vulkangruppe (Volcano Group) said.
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The area affected by the power cut includes many elderly care homes and hospitals as well as high-rise buildings with residents who are reliant on elevators that are now out of order. Berlin received moderate snowfall at the weekend and night-time temperatures plunged well below freezing.
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A previous arson attack attributed to the far left in September knocked out electricity for 60 hours in the south-east of the city in what was reportedly Berlin’s longest power cut since the second world war.
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This is either a false flag or they are fucking stupid.
If you want to fight climate change, you don’t target the people that are willing to support you. You target a private jet, an AI datacenter, a super-yatch… hurting the people who are not in the position to change anything is beyond stupid.
They are fucking stupid. These are the kind of left wing nutjobs, that want the USSR to return under Putin. This is not the first time and it won’t be the last, it’s also effectively Russian sabotage
If it wasn’t a false flag operation, then pretty much the opposite is true. Because the group is anarcho-primitivist. Their goal is certainly not the return of the USSR, but rather a societal return to pre-industrial living and production conditions. Above all, they are also against states and therefore traditionally very opposed to leftwing supporters of the Soviet Union.
Oh wow, so they are arguably even more stupid
It’s even worse than that, many go beyond pre-indurstrial and want to go back to pre-agricultural societies. Hunter and gatherer.
Totally just vibed out that conclusion there eh?
Kind of, I mainly extrapolated from the last similar attacks on our infrastructure
Berlin has some very wealthy districts, and the group targeted these specifically.
OP’s summary of the article leaves out a few important aspects imho. Please refer to @myrmidex@belgae.social’s comment.
Leftist groups have made several similar arson attacks on infrastructure over the years.
Last year https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/tesla-hasser-anschlag-bahngleis
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article68c2f71cb57f8e2dfedfce82/stromausfall-in-berlin-nach-dem-mysterioesen-anschlag-suchen-die-ermittler-parallelen-zu-anderen-sabotageakten.html
A couple of years ago https://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/polizeibericht/article210957193/S-Bahnhof-Treptower-Park-Brand-an-Kabelschacht.html
It’s always the same modus operandi. They find essential cables, break in, then burn it down. It interrupts trains, public transport, phone networks, electricity, and such.
Then a long statement is published with lots of words about stopping capitalism, military production, climate change, etc.
The ones suffering are always the weakest.
Got it. So they are fucking stupid.
Exactly. Berlin has a large ecosystem of left wingers of many different shades, including pretty ideologically deranged ones.
Here’s their wall of text they published with reasons for this attack.
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news/stromterror-in-berlin-das-bekennerschreiben-im-wortlaut-li.10012514
The left has as many idiots as the right. Stupid hippies accomplish nothing.
The article led with calling them fucking stupid, although they used the polite euphemism “leftwing militants”.
(Note that “rightwing militants” means the same thing)
To be fair, that does seem like exactly what a saboteur would say
This is the country that shut down all of its nuclear reactors in a knee jerk.
Glad I’m an American leftie and not burning infrastructure that provides electricity to citizens.
Yup, your government does that for you already by letting AI companies control the grid.
At least it’s controlled and state funded ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Total FF.
Not to condone these actions but strange that this most poignant part is left out of OP’s summary.
Further:
BTW:
Might as well include this
The same group has a history of attacking the German railway system. So I am just going to call bs on them caring about the enviroment. Honestly this smells like a Russian operation to make the German left look like cunts. We actually know that they paid people to destroy combustion engine cars and leave paphlemts calling the German Green Party resposnible for it.
I know they are anarchists, but it is probably imporant to say, that the power plant is owned by the city state of Berlin.
Just so weird to go under the banner of anarcho-primitivists for a false flag operation. Lots more relevant anarchist ideologies that make for easy-to-blame targets (green, queer, even ancoms). I’d reckon they’re just misguided idealists.
If you want to blame leftist environmentalists for something it is usually about them trying to destroy the social order and wanting to ban everything. When you take those ideas to the extreme you end up at anarcho-primitivism. Since few people have any idea what anarcho-primitivism even is and a lot of the media is on the side of the right, you just let the journalist call them say “Leftwing militants” and let them quote some pro environmental stuff to blame that group. Hell the Guardian did that too. That way more moderate leftist and environmental groups will be seen as terrorists, which let thousands suffer.
Devious!
@myrmidex@belgae.social
And? What’s strange here?
Smart
There is currently some thought, that Russia is behind it. One of the signs of it, is that they write of a politican named Vans. They probably mean Vance, but used some translation system from Russian, were Vans and Vance are spelled the same way.
Could also be a typo or autocorrect.
Smells Like russia
And it should be stressed that it is not at all clear who is behind said group - we basically know about this group what they have told us. That’s it
Lol at the people here struggling to justify this.
Honestly, I was expecting more claims the people doing it were technically far right because leftists can't be bad guys.
There are people here trying to justify this? I can’t find a single comment that is
People are pointing out some aspects this group revendicates : it targeted a neighbourhood with many rich people, they apologized for every struggling people affected by this, they used the same tactic against Tesla factory. Don’t know what to think about it, those are just the comments of people that seem a bit knowledgeable about the situation.
Good for them. Tesla sucks.