Trump vowed to block tankers carrying Venezuela's oil — nearly a dozen are at sea right now (www.cnbc.com)
from throws_lemy@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 01:21
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At least 34 U.S.-sanctioned oil tankers with a history of carrying Venezuelan oil are currently at sea in the Caribbean, according to a new analysis obtained by CNBC on Wednesday.

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UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 01:45 next collapse

Good. Venezuela shouldn’t profit off the genocide in Ukraine.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 02:27 next collapse

You’re crazy if you think that’s the reason Trump is doing this.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 03:37 collapse

That’s the reason the oil was sanctioned.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:07 collapse

Today… Until Trump gets a wild hair up his ass and decides that Russia should get the oil.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:16 collapse

In other words… Today Venezuela has been stopped from fueling the genocide in Ukraine.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:55 collapse

You don’t get it and that’s OK.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 05:00 collapse

I get that you are defending the genocide in Ukraine.

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Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 18 Dec 07:09 collapse

Mate, you aren’t getting the point.

The formal reason why Venezuela has been sanctioned is to stop oil getting to Russia.

The other guy is pointing out that the sanctions are only being enforced by America because Trump has personal beef with Maduro.

As soon as Putin requests (orders) the blockade lifted then Trump will do so.

Trump does not give a shit about Ukraine.

fort_burp@feddit.nl on 18 Dec 08:59 next collapse

Wait what? Russia buys oil from Venezuela? I thought Russia had tons of oil… or is it only natural gas?

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 18 Dec 09:24 collapse

It might be the other way round, but even oil producers buy oil

fort_burp@feddit.nl on 20 Dec 19:21 collapse

Seems like the oil was going to Cuba?

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 13:55 collapse

You’re not saying anything new just reinforcing what I said:

Venezuela is trying to supply black market oil to Russia and Iran after that oil was sanctioned because of the genocide in Ukraine.

The other guy is talking conspiracy theories. The oil was sanctioned and Venezuela still tried to supply it to profit off genocide. Of course the US is going to enforce the sanctions. This isn’t 5d chess.

Trump can’t be too blatant about his loyalty to Putin. Everytime his base starts to notice he does something to pretend he isn’t owned by Putin.

Lifting the blockade for Putin would be too blatant. He would lose followers.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 14:07 next collapse

Why would Russia need to do so much work when they are making headway with BRICS, developing a close relationship with India for oil importation, and China and North Korea are actively undermining any sanctions?

Trump is not blockading Venezuela because of sanctioned oil. Trump as getting ready to do a Ukraine on Venezuela because he is butt hurt that every war he has tried to “end” has failed and he wants to look strong. Fucking daddy issues this guy.

-Ukraine and Russia

-Israel and Palestine

-Cambodia and Thailand

-Israel and Syria

-Nigeria and Boko Haram

That and he’s relying on his tried and true tactic for every time things go unfavorably: deflect and distract.

American economy is suffering? Start a war! Epstein files are coming? Start a war!

Get the fuck out of here with the whole “he’s sanctioning Russia through attacking Venezuela” bullshit.

You lack knowledge and understanding of geopolitical affairs.

Edit: Trump rapes children and he still has support.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 14:29 collapse

The fact that the oil from Venezuela was headed to Russia and Iran isn’t up for debate.

It’s pretty clear that you intend to defend the genocide in Ukraine.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 15:00 collapse

Just continue to eat paint chips you fucking idiot.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:36 collapse

I’m sorry that the truth makes you so mad.

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 18 Dec 15:15 collapse

The sanctions have been in place for years.

America hasn’t enforced them.

When America started attacking Venezuela it was because of drugs.

Now Trump has admitted it is about oil. Thats it. There’s no conspiracy, Trump either lied originally or he has no fucking clue what hes doing or why.

He hasn’t even mentioned sanctions either.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:36 collapse

Pam Bondi speaks on behalf of Trump and was quoted in the article:

The tanker, which transported oil from Venezuela and Iran, has been sanctioned by the U.S. for years “due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations,”

Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk on 18 Dec 21:02 collapse

Fucking hell are you just deliberately trying to miss the point or is it an accident?

What they are SAYING is not in line with what they are doing or have said previously.

They never mentioned anything about oil or sanctions until they seized the tanker. Every single utterance has been about drugs.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:17 next collapse

The usa is the biggest genocides supporter

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:19 collapse

Venezuela should not fund the genocide in Ukraine.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:22 collapse

The usa profit from the genocide in Ukraine, Gaza and Sudan and want to steal natural ressources from latin americs

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:24 collapse

This post is about Venezuela funding the genocide in Ukraine and the US stopping Venezuela from funding the genocide in Ukraine.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:32 next collapse

This post is about the usa staling Venezuela resources and wanting to put a puppet serving only the US interests

I guess a should have added some bold text

The usa profit from the genocide in Ukraine, Gaza and Sudan and want to steal natural ressources from latin americs

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:41 collapse

This post is about Venezuela supplying oil to Russia and Iran after the US sanctioned Russia and Iran for their genocide in Ukraine. The US has defended Ukraine until Trump got into office (under control of Putin).

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:43 next collapse

No, it is about the usa stealing Venezuelan oils and imposing an illegal blockade. Stop acting like the world police when you are the world biggest gang.

Did you quickly forget how trump proposed to Ukraine a surrender plan similar to the one in Gaza?

From your master own words. There is nothing to do with Iran and Russia www.youtube.com/watch?v=X11W3O9BeBA

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 04:54 collapse

Russia will not be allowed to invade other countries and commit genocide freely.

Militaries are the world police.

Trump is acting on behalf of Russia.

Your YouTube research is a joke. Please understand how incompetent it looks to share YouTube videos as evidence of anything.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 05:04 collapse

You are a joke. The US has zero right to police the world, zero. You are supporting the biggest terrorist country the world ever seen responsible of the biggest numbers of coups and countries destruction.

Russia will not be allowed to invade other countries and commit genocide freely. Russia and the usa will not be allowed to invade other countries and commit genocide freely

Militaries are the world police. With your logic , Russian military also has the right to be the world police

Your YouTube research is a joke. Please understand how incompetent it looks to share YouTube videos as evidence of anything.

A video about Trump himself admitting that he want to steal Venezuelan oil is not an evidence of anything? Get out of your high horse

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 05:17 collapse

The US isn’t invading Ukraine. Russia is. Trump is corrupted by Russia so he will try to profit off of anything. It is part of his duty to Russia. You are obviously here to defend the Kremlin.

mrdown@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 05:25 collapse

So trump the Russian supporter has the right to steal oils from Venezuela because he think the USA is entitled to that oil and not because of the genocide in Ukraine like you claim . The USA is backing Russian genocide in Ukraine, the genocide in Sudan and the genocide in Gaza yet still think the USA should police of the world . I never saw a more idiotic person as you, you terrorist supporter.

Will the usa also block Israel and Russia two countries committing genocide from trading with each other? …msruas.ac.in/…/for-israel-embassy_divya_cnss_isr…

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 05:47 collapse

The US is capable of enforcing sanctions that weaken Russia’s genocide in Ukraine. So they will. That isn’t policing or stealing. It is enforcing sanctions that were created to weaken the genocide in Ukraine.

Trumps actions are decided by Putin. That is why the genocide has increased since Putin controlled Trump became president.

Venezuela should not fund the genocide in Ukraine and if they keep trying I hope they pay the price.

ranzispa@mander.xyz on 18 Dec 08:15 collapse

USA can put all the sanctions they want. They can not attack Venezuelan ships or blockade them as that is illegal as per international laws. Doing that is an attack on their national integrity, and thus a war declaration.

This is just the justification phase of a new proxy war, in which the US will try to topple a government and get control over national resources.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 13:42 next collapse

The invasion of Ukraine is a declaration of war and illegal.

Sanctioning Russia and Iran because of their illegal genocide in Ukraine is legal.

devolution@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 17:14 collapse

Just let it go. He’s either a bot or someone too stupid to breathe without directions.

athatet@lemmy.zip on 18 Dec 15:35 collapse

Google said it was headed to Cuba…

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:29 collapse

Since you’re spamming this comment I’ll have to copy and paste the response.

It was headed to Cuba when it was captured. It had already transported oil to Iran. From the article:

The tanker, which transported oil from Venezuela and Iran, has been sanctioned by the U.S. for years “due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations,”

This ship was sanctioned years ago under Biden not Trump.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Dec 14:24 collapse

No it’s not. You’re a fucking fool if you actually believe them when they say it’s about that.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 14:27 collapse

The oil was headed to Iran and Russia. That is not up for debate. You’re a fool that is either tricked into or intentionally defending the genocide in Ukraine.

athatet@lemmy.zip on 18 Dec 15:34 next collapse

Google said it was headed for Cuba…

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:30 collapse

Since you’re spamming this comment I’ll have to copy and paste the response.

It was headed to Cuba when it was captured. It had already transported oil to Iran. From the article:

The tanker, which transported oil from Venezuela and Iran, has been sanctioned by the U.S. for years “due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations,”

This ship was sanctioned years ago under Biden not Trump.

You should read the article.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Dec 16:19 next collapse

I’m not defending shit, I’m just telling you that you’re an idiot if you believe them when they say that’s the reason.

Also I’ve only seen the claim about the oil going to Russia on here, if it’s indisputable, can you provide your source? Because I just googled it and it says most of Venezuela’s oil goes to China (70-80% of their exports), and the rest goes to India, Cuba and Spain/Italy.

demonsword@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 19:20 collapse

The oil was headed to Iran and Russia.

Those two countries export oil.

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 19:57 collapse

They also buy oil. Remember oil needs to be refined.

demonsword@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 20:19 collapse

The kind of oil extracted in Venezuela is called heavy crude, it’s not easily refined anywhere, needs some kind of special processes. IIRC a lot of it was processed in the USA itself before sanctions took place during the Deranged Orange Man’s first term.

Mihies@programming.dev on 18 Dec 07:12 next collapse

US shouldn’t as well, but here we are. How is Venezuela profiting with oil from invasion of Ukraine?

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 13:45 collapse

The oil tankers from Venezuela were going to Russia and Iran illegallly after Russia and Iran were sanctioned for the invasion of Ukraine.

Venezuela is trying to supply black market oil to the countries invading Ukraine.

The US intercepted that illegal oil.

athatet@lemmy.zip on 18 Dec 15:35 next collapse

Google said it was going to Cuba…

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:27 collapse

It was head to Cuba when it was captured. It had already transported oil to Iran. From the article:

The tanker, which transported oil from Venezuela and Iran, has been sanctioned by the U.S. for years “due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations,”

This ship was sanctioned years ago under Biden not Trump.

Mihies@programming.dev on 18 Dec 21:22 collapse

So, if I got it right, Venezuela is supplying Russia and Iran, both huge oil producers and exporters, with unrefined oil?

athatet@lemmy.zip on 18 Dec 15:31 collapse

What the actual fuck does this comment mean?

UsernameHere@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 16:32 collapse

The oil tanker was captured because it was sanctioned years ago under Biden for illegally delivering black market oil to Iran.

Iran was sanctioned for their contribution to the invasion and genocide in Ukraine.

Venezuela is trying to continue to provide black market oil to countries sanctioned for their contribution to the genocide in Ukraine.

Dionysus@leminal.space on 18 Dec 15:24 collapse

TACO man