Poland rail explosion: PM says blast was 'unprecedented act of sabotage'
(www.bbc.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 23:23
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 23:23
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Poland’s prime minister has said an explosion on a railway line leading to the Ukraine border this weekend was caused by “an unprecedented act of sabotage”, and vowed to catch those responsible “regardless of who their backers are”.
Visiting the scene this morning, Donald Tusk said the damage done to the railway tracks on Sunday was deliberate and likely aimed at blowing up the train. He expressed relief there were no casualties.
Speaking later in Warsaw, after an emergency meeting of security officials, Poland’s special services minister said there was a “very high chance” that the blast was carried out on the orders of “foreign services”.
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I think we all know who he was referring to with “foreign services”.
Yup. I’m just wondering what if anything will come from this. I certainly don’t see this turning into an Article 5 situation but Europe will also need to look to be making a strong response lest they signal that this kind of sabotage is acceptable.
It’s the filthy fucking Russians, always is. At what point does Europe call bullshit and invade?! Easy for me to say across the Pond, but if Mexico was constantly sabotaging America, we’d quickly kick their ass.
Mexico doesn’t have nukes, but yes.
I’m actually surprised train derailments don’t happen more often. It seems relatively easy to remove a section of rail—without explosives.
Rail integrity is monitored in several ways to aid in prevention of non-intentional derailments so it’s a little more than trivial to do, but yeah they are still extremely vulnerable. The biggest reason not to do it is that, at least historically, the response to even minor fuckery of rail infrastructure has been vehemently disproportionate.
Come to the US, it happens all the time here. Mostly due to lack of maintenance. The companies that own the rails don’t pay for it since it’s not profitable, and the government lets them.
That is so US :)
actually its intentional neglect. they cant bother to hire more railworkers so they squeeze out the ones that are employed, which led to the strikes. somewhat similarly to the ATC situation.
Modern rail is welded at each seam, it also gets work hardened, so unless you find a recently installed section, cutting it is going to be quite difficult.
Plus they monitor continuity on the rail and the trains would be alerted if there is a break.
Other obstacles on the rail would probably work, but in not sure what kinds of countermeasures the trains might have for those either.
This is an act of war, but I’m sure the Ruzzians will disavow it.
Russian bots already say Ukraine did it. And many Polish people seem to believe that.
Many Polish people will belive anything you tell them. We nearly elected a guy out of nowhere, claiming to have the answer to all our problems in a black briefcase, that he would open only after the election (Stan Tymiński). Thats some Pulp Fiction level fuckery.
You can find people everywhere that will believe anything you tell them. But that’s also an awesome story. I love hearing about these sort of gimmicks people trying to get elected use, sorta like Lord Buckethead. But yeah pretty sad that the “briefcase of all you solutions which I cannot show you right now” worked.
Lol.
Funfact. Rail Guard in Poland is one of the few organisations that are armed.
Didn’t help here but I’ll be waiting for news about shootout on the rail some time in the future. Would be funny.
Shame that it comes to more weapons. Glad France can provide radars and defensive systems though, that’s a very good thing.
9/10 chances this was done by Polish farmers still pissed about UA grain. The public opinion in Poland has done a 180.