Sorry… is hectoring supposed to be heckling? Trump is the hector in this case; he can’t make Canada the hector. When the first non-proper-noun word out of a writer’s keyboard is that far off what they meant, I have difficulty taking anything else they write as anything but regurgitated vaguely understood hearsay.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Apr 13:54
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For whoever is interested in reading it, I quite liked the Peter Green translation. Fair warning though, it’s quite long, longer than the Odyssey.
MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
on 28 Apr 16:27
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Oh I wasn’t saying it was a good movie. It does have a greased up Brad Pitt flying through the air stabbing dudes with a spear though. Sometimes that’s all you need from a film.
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 28 Apr 13:55
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kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 28 Apr 14:28
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If you mean “go vote to change things” or something along those lines, then I need to remind you that only people from USA can vote in the USA elections and that not everyone you’ll find online is from USA.
Have a good day.
I need to remind you that only people from USA can vote in the USA elections and that not everyone you’ll find online is from USA. Have a good day.
I was addressing my fellow Canadians, because the Canadian election is today. Ironically, it seems you assumed I was an American talking about the USA.
And even in the most insanely charitable world where we assume he is "trolling", he's still saying an intensely offensive thing to Canadians without any reason other than "lulz." That's the most charitable possible interpretation and it's still awful.
Of course, most Americans don't realize it's an intensely offensive thing. That's a major part of the problem.
pivot_root@lemmy.world
on 28 Apr 15:21
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Of course, most Americans don’t realize it’s an intensely offensive thing. That’s a major part of the problem.
“America is the greatest nation on earth, why wouldn’t another country want to be part of it?”
That’s what happens when a population is spoon-fed “patriotism” from birth. All the nationalism and propaganda is doing its job promoting American exceptionalism while diminishing empathy and critical thinking.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
on 28 Apr 15:47
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No way in hell would I want to be part of that dumpster fire shit hole.
As someone who lives in America, I don’t understand how anyone DOES NOT think it’s offensive and threatening and a horrible stance for a president to have. But the ones that don’t think it’s a big deal is how we got where we are and I’m disappointed in my country… again.
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee
on 28 Apr 20:00
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I wonder if Musk taught him this trick. He keeps pulling it out of his ass every time negative news (that he actually cares about like his recent polling numbers) comes out and he wants to distract from it. This is exactly what Musk used to do before he took the mask off.
OpenStars@piefed.social
on 28 Apr 21:59
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THIS^^^ it’s just all “I’m embarrassed he’s the POTUS” meanwhile Murikkkans can’t comprehend for a second the offensiveness and frankly - violence that talk of a 51st state represents to Canada.
And how, pray tell, is a “real” firearm going to help defend against the most technologically advanced army in the world, who can take you out from half a planet away without you ever seeing anyone until you are ginsu-bladed in half (reference: pcmag.com/…/us-used-drone-carrying-knife-missile-…)?
We don’t need more firearms in personal hands when it comes to our national defence, we need alliances, a better standing army, and probably some form of nuclear deterrence.
Thinking you’ll make any meaningful difference with your personal firearm and a couple of hours on the gun range is the exact same magical thinking 2FA nuts keep using while the US government takes their rights and freedoms away.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Apr 23:26
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And how, pray tell, is a “real” firearm going to help defend against the most technologically advanced army in the world,
Their tech is pretty advanced I’ll give you that, but i sure as hell know if people had more access to firearms we could actually have a chance to defend ourselves from such a threat.
Our military is a joke technology & armoury wise, simple and plain, the more people who stand to defend the better.
We don’t need more firearms in personal hands when it comes to our national defence
This is where we differ, I fully believe South Korea has the right idea to train all their children in CQB and to safely handle firearms given how close North Korea is.
The same should apply to Canadians, we have a potential threat down south and a small handful of people actually know what they’re doing.
we need a better standing army, and probably some form of nuclear deterrence.
I 100% agree however, I don’t think we’ll ever see this in our lifetime with another Liberal leader.
Thinking you’ll make any meaningful difference with your personal firearm and a couple of hours on the gun range
A couple hours at the range is better than no hours at the range.
ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Apr 23:42
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You misunderstand.
Yes, one Canadian with an assault rifle can’t do much against 5 American drones.
But one Canadian with an assault rifle can do much against 5 off-duty American soldiers relaxing in a restaurant.
Yeah… nah. I don’t want school shootings as a trade off to a hypothetical American invasion, plus, pp would fucking bend over and spread to trump. A handgun or a 30 round mag won’t make a difference.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 02:35
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don’t want school shootings as a trade off to a hypothetical American invasion
So hypothetical school shootings are better eh? Keep in mind I’m not pushing for the Canadian version of the 4th amendment, as you see in another one of my comments I encourage proper safety training beforehand.
No? Having more, higher capacity weapons will lead to more shootings.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 02:48
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The data is already there, RCMP chiefs across the country endorse it, targeting licensed firearms owners is not the answer to solve gun crime.
Majority of our gun related crime comes from illegally smuggled firearms from the US.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 03:10
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Majority of our gun related crime comes from illegally smuggled firearms from the US
hey, quick question, what does the US have? Higher capacity magazines right? More fire arms too… now instead of them being smuggled they can be locally sourced?
Firearms are a privilege, not a right. We are not being " targeted". The answer to gun crime is to remove the root cause. But having high capacity magazines, and hand guns more available will lead to more gun violence…
I do want to say, there are many things about our fire arm laws that are absurd. I’m sure there is some common ground there. The fact that I can’t have a suppressor is stupid. And the OIC was poorly done and, to be frank idiotic.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Apr 19:33
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I appreciate your candour to the situation, I respectfully disagree with your other comment and believe the privilege is being slowly taken away from us, so yes I think we’re being targeted, at this point it’s too late to argue and all I can do is hope they rethink the buyback program.
So glad I bought a 22lr Kriss Vector for them to ban it days later, now I can go and have it disabled so I don’t have to sell it.
He is not trolling. He is genuinely threatening our sovereignty, and we are taking that seriously. The United States is an enemy nation.
shiroininja@lemmy.world
on 28 Apr 23:40
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Are you guys arming yourselves via a rearmament program like pre WW2? Because you should be if you take him seriously. The best don’t tread on me animal is a porcupine. Defensive
Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 00:11
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If the US invades, there’s no amount of rearming that would stop them from completely destroying us. Acquiring nukes would be our best bet.
Yeah, it'd be a three day special military operation. Just like when Russia took Ukraine.
Americans are extremely averse to casualties and pain. We could make an invasion hurt. I doubt they'd be able to endure a genuine war that genuinely enters their homeland. Not for long.
The US military has always proved to be very vulnerable to guerilla warfare, they’ve lost a few wars due to guerilla warfare. Canadians know their landscape and they know how to hunt and shoot, they’d put together an excellent guerilla force, and they could easily blend with American soldiers. They are also comfortable with the cold. A MAGA invasion of Canada in the Winter will be like the Nazis invading Russia. Also, all of Europe will suppport Canada.
A good portion of the US military will refuse to follow orders to invade, and resign, defect, or go AWOL, and whoever is left will be nearly universally unmotivated to invade Canada. Many military leaders will work behind the scenes to sabotage the illegal invasion. Those disenchanted military personnel will find the competent, experienced military that HitlerPig fired, ready and waiting to build a strong, motivated military force to oppose MAGA on Canada’s behalf.
In addition, 2/3+ of America will never support the invasion of Canada for ANY reason, and will align with Canada. HitlerPig will be forced to waste resources dealing with the uprising at home, distracting him from his foolish invasion.
Any HitlerPig military operation will be defined by virtuosic incompetence, which is his most reliable characteristic. He will be fighting his own military and citizen population every step of the way.
100% this. Which is why I kind of chuckle when I hear people worried about martial law.
Even with every cop and military officer in the country you still could not hope to restrain a properly motivated American population. They have no hope of even restraining half of the population.
People know their own turf and this country is far too big for that. Wanna do it to Canada? The country with some of the most consistently capable and highly regarded soldiers of the past 100+ years? Good luck. Lmao
sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech
on 30 Apr 22:56
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Couple of problems there:
The American population is not properly motivated. More than half of the adult population are not fit (mentally or physically) to fight anything or anyone. Now, if Canada invaded as an act of liberation, it might be a different story.
You might get 15% of the police and 20% of the military to do what’s right, but the problem is that the 85% and 80% of those are the ones who will retain access to weapons and ammo.
You’re acting like the only way to win a war is to conquer every single square foot of it, Civilization style. If Canada held NYC, DC, and maybe Chicago, for a month, they would win.
I’m not stupid or acting any specific way. Im very realistic on this subject and very aware that any meaningful rebellion would likely take years of asymmetric warfare but they would absolutely lose.
Definitely not what we want but it may be what this comes to.
if the military sucks against insurgency and they do, the cops definitely aren’t going to be any help. Start shooting at protesters and you’re gonna see shit that makes 2020 look like a children’s party.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 Apr 03:45
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The porcupine’s only weak spot is its face. Which is why the pine martin eats the porcupine’s face. Not sure how that affects this metaphor but it’s a cool nature fact.
He got elected because people thought he was trolling, and thought it was funny. Now he’s actually doing those things, and worse. So why would anyone not take these threats seriously?
No. We predominantly voted Harris. And Minnesota has historically voted democratic since 1932. Only have voted for the republican president 3 times since then. In the 50s and 70s.
We also have abortion rights codified in our state legislature. The running mate of Kamala Harris, Tim Walz is our governor.
Under its Democratic Gov. Tim Walz, Minnesota has expanded union protections, approved over $1 billion in housing resources, enacted universal paid family and medical leave, funded free school lunches, hiked corporate taxes and more.
Well I mean he’s the lefts guy. Not that he’s actually progressive, he definitely didn’t give a shot about the housing bubble when he was the governor of the BoC.
He’s the liberal’s guy, the left don’t really have a guy in this election. Even the NDP have gone hard to centre since the Jack Layton days
davidagain@lemmy.world
on 29 Apr 19:55
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Trump is gonna be so butthurt that after he told Canadians to elect PeePee who was gonna make Canada the 51st state, Canadians took away his seat. Nope nope nope.
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Sorry… is hectoring supposed to be heckling? Trump is the hector in this case; he can’t make Canada the hector. When the first non-proper-noun word out of a writer’s keyboard is that far off what they meant, I have difficulty taking anything else they write as anything but regurgitated vaguely understood hearsay.
It is most definitely a word, and its usage here is fine.
I never said it wasn’t a word; it means bully. But hectored doesn’t mean bullied the way we use that in English—it would mean to create a bully.
Nope. It’s an out-of-use term, but it is definitely a synonym of bullying.
The link to the “ing” version in their first link does support the use in the article. TIL also.
Hectoring is to act domineering, or to try to intimidate.
Ackshually it’s only Hectoring if you drag them behind your chariot, otherwise it’s just sparkling heckling.
That reminds me, Troy deserves a rewatch soon. Love those fight scenes.
Isn’t that movie notoriously terrible?
For whoever is interested in reading it, I quite liked the Peter Green translation. Fair warning though, it’s quite long, longer than the Odyssey.
Oh I wasn’t saying it was a good movie. It does have a greased up Brad Pitt flying through the air stabbing dudes with a spear though. Sometimes that’s all you need from a film.
Cringe
Vote!
Edit: I’m addressing Canadians.
If you mean “go vote to change things” or something along those lines, then I need to remind you that only people from USA can vote in the USA elections and that not everyone you’ll find online is from USA. Have a good day.
Canadian election is today. Who they choose is who’s gonna have to handle or succumb to Trump.
Good for Canadians then, I wish them the best.
I was addressing my fellow Canadians, because the Canadian election is today. Ironically, it seems you assumed I was an American talking about the USA.
No, I simply assumed your comment was referred to me since that’s who you were answering to.
Pretty sure they meant Canadians
Yup that makes much more sense sorry
How about you worry about your own shithole country.
He literally said he was not trolling.
And even in the most insanely charitable world where we assume he is "trolling", he's still saying an intensely offensive thing to Canadians without any reason other than "lulz." That's the most charitable possible interpretation and it's still awful.
Of course, most Americans don't realize it's an intensely offensive thing. That's a major part of the problem.
“America is the greatest nation on earth, why wouldn’t another country want to be part of it?”
That’s what happens when a population is spoon-fed “patriotism” from birth. All the nationalism and propaganda is doing its job promoting American exceptionalism while diminishing empathy and critical thinking.
No way in hell would I want to be part of that dumpster fire shit hole.
Reciting every day in school how great your country is, is peak brainwashing to me. When I learned about that, it was so weird to me.
Yeah after a while I just stayed seated during the pledge, seems goofy as hell to be performed everyday at school.
Face it, the US is no different from North Korea at this point. Total cult of personality.
As someone who lives in America, I don’t understand how anyone DOES NOT think it’s offensive and threatening and a horrible stance for a president to have. But the ones that don’t think it’s a big deal is how we got where we are and I’m disappointed in my country… again.
I wonder if Musk taught him this trick. He keeps pulling it out of his ass every time negative news (that he actually cares about like his recent polling numbers) comes out and he wants to distract from it. This is exactly what Musk used to do before he took the mask off.
Don't confuse not knowing with not caring.
THIS^^^ it’s just all “I’m embarrassed he’s the POTUS” meanwhile Murikkkans can’t comprehend for a second the offensiveness and frankly - violence that talk of a 51st state represents to Canada.
I’m actually kind of glad to see this. Should drive turnout for Carney.
I can’t think of a more helpful thing he could have said.
Ah yes another liberal who’ll fail to defend our countries borders, another Trudeau but this time with pizzaz.
If there ever is a war with the US I sure as shit want access to real firearms, none of this 3 rounds per mag headache we got now.
And how, pray tell, is a “real” firearm going to help defend against the most technologically advanced army in the world, who can take you out from half a planet away without you ever seeing anyone until you are ginsu-bladed in half (reference: pcmag.com/…/us-used-drone-carrying-knife-missile-…)?
We don’t need more firearms in personal hands when it comes to our national defence, we need alliances, a better standing army, and probably some form of nuclear deterrence. Thinking you’ll make any meaningful difference with your personal firearm and a couple of hours on the gun range is the exact same magical thinking 2FA nuts keep using while the US government takes their rights and freedoms away.
Their tech is pretty advanced I’ll give you that, but i sure as hell know if people had more access to firearms we could actually have a chance to defend ourselves from such a threat.
Our military is a joke technology & armoury wise, simple and plain, the more people who stand to defend the better.
This is where we differ, I fully believe South Korea has the right idea to train all their children in CQB and to safely handle firearms given how close North Korea is.
The same should apply to Canadians, we have a potential threat down south and a small handful of people actually know what they’re doing.
I 100% agree however, I don’t think we’ll ever see this in our lifetime with another Liberal leader.
A couple hours at the range is better than no hours at the range.
You misunderstand.
Yes, one Canadian with an assault rifle can’t do much against 5 American drones.
But one Canadian with an assault rifle can do much against 5 off-duty American soldiers relaxing in a restaurant.
Yeah… nah. I don’t want school shootings as a trade off to a hypothetical American invasion, plus, pp would fucking bend over and spread to trump. A handgun or a 30 round mag won’t make a difference.
So hypothetical school shootings are better eh? Keep in mind I’m not pushing for the Canadian version of the 4th amendment, as you see in another one of my comments I encourage proper safety training beforehand.
No? Having more, higher capacity weapons will lead to more shootings.
The data is already there, RCMP chiefs across the country endorse it, targeting licensed firearms owners is not the answer to solve gun crime.
Majority of our gun related crime comes from illegally smuggled firearms from the US.
hey, quick question, what does the US have? Higher capacity magazines right? More fire arms too… now instead of them being smuggled they can be locally sourced?
Firearms are a privilege, not a right. We are not being " targeted". The answer to gun crime is to remove the root cause. But having high capacity magazines, and hand guns more available will lead to more gun violence…
I do want to say, there are many things about our fire arm laws that are absurd. I’m sure there is some common ground there. The fact that I can’t have a suppressor is stupid. And the OIC was poorly done and, to be frank idiotic.
I appreciate your candour to the situation, I respectfully disagree with your other comment and believe the privilege is being slowly taken away from us, so yes I think we’re being targeted, at this point it’s too late to argue and all I can do is hope they rethink the buyback program.
So glad I bought a 22lr Kriss Vector for them to ban it days later, now I can go and have it disabled so I don’t have to sell it.
You’re not wrong.
And, I appreciate your sentiment on the matter, I don’t feel like it’s an attack, but I understood how you could.
As for the Vector, I was taking a look at the list and skimmed over it, I thought it was only the centerfire version that were affected.
Them banning the M1 carbine was really fucking stupid too.
Man so many semi-22Lr’s were reclassified to prohibited, even the GSG, aka the gun known for its power to jam every 2nd shot.
It’s seems all we got now is the SKS and the Derya.
You’re right, sorry I forgot reading about the gsg’s being banned.
He is not trolling. He is genuinely threatening our sovereignty, and we are taking that seriously. The United States is an enemy nation.
Are you guys arming yourselves via a rearmament program like pre WW2? Because you should be if you take him seriously. The best don’t tread on me animal is a porcupine. Defensive
If the US invades, there’s no amount of rearming that would stop them from completely destroying us. Acquiring nukes would be our best bet.
Yeah, it'd be a three day special military operation. Just like when Russia took Ukraine.
Americans are extremely averse to casualties and pain. We could make an invasion hurt. I doubt they'd be able to endure a genuine war that genuinely enters their homeland. Not for long.
The US military has always proved to be very vulnerable to guerilla warfare, they’ve lost a few wars due to guerilla warfare. Canadians know their landscape and they know how to hunt and shoot, they’d put together an excellent guerilla force, and they could easily blend with American soldiers. They are also comfortable with the cold. A MAGA invasion of Canada in the Winter will be like the Nazis invading Russia. Also, all of Europe will suppport Canada.
A good portion of the US military will refuse to follow orders to invade, and resign, defect, or go AWOL, and whoever is left will be nearly universally unmotivated to invade Canada. Many military leaders will work behind the scenes to sabotage the illegal invasion. Those disenchanted military personnel will find the competent, experienced military that HitlerPig fired, ready and waiting to build a strong, motivated military force to oppose MAGA on Canada’s behalf.
In addition, 2/3+ of America will never support the invasion of Canada for ANY reason, and will align with Canada. HitlerPig will be forced to waste resources dealing with the uprising at home, distracting him from his foolish invasion.
Any HitlerPig military operation will be defined by virtuosic incompetence, which is his most reliable characteristic. He will be fighting his own military and citizen population every step of the way.
100% this. Which is why I kind of chuckle when I hear people worried about martial law.
Even with every cop and military officer in the country you still could not hope to restrain a properly motivated American population. They have no hope of even restraining half of the population.
People know their own turf and this country is far too big for that. Wanna do it to Canada? The country with some of the most consistently capable and highly regarded soldiers of the past 100+ years? Good luck. Lmao
Couple of problems there:
I’m not stupid or acting any specific way. Im very realistic on this subject and very aware that any meaningful rebellion would likely take years of asymmetric warfare but they would absolutely lose.
Definitely not what we want but it may be what this comes to.
if the military sucks against insurgency and they do, the cops definitely aren’t going to be any help. Start shooting at protesters and you’re gonna see shit that makes 2020 look like a children’s party.
The porcupine’s only weak spot is its face. Which is why the pine martin eats the porcupine’s face. Not sure how that affects this metaphor but it’s a cool nature fact.
I don’t think you truly understand the meaning of elbows up.
He got elected because people thought he was trolling, and thought it was funny. Now he’s actually doing those things, and worse. So why would anyone not take these threats seriously?
I’m keeping my cents on the Simpsons timeline.
If Canadians seeing this can take anything from the last few months, it’s that they have got to get out there and vote.
“Don’t you want empty ports too???”
Big beautiful ports. The biggest ports.
Can someone slap this guy already?
“slap”
Best I can do is slam
So he can destroy their economy and international standing too?
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Of course he couldn’t keep his mouth shut for the whole month. Gonna be consequences, Donny.
‘IT WAS MEANT TO BE!’ Trump Trolls ‘Great People of America’ Let US Take Over Country and Serve US. Fixed it for you!
Canada could use another few provinces… California, interested?
Territories
We’re interested. Oregon, Washington and Hawaii is onboard too.
Then make an alliance with Mexico (and countries in Central and South America) and 2/3 of America will be surrounded by hostile territory.
The south has always been hostile territory, if you aren’t their brand of white Protestant.
We need a new Society of No-Homers.
Woah now, don’t leave out us southern Canadian friends in Minnesota. We have the Mayo Clinic, Lake Superior, and hot dish.
Minnesota voted for Trump no?
No. We predominantly voted Harris. And Minnesota has historically voted democratic since 1932. Only have voted for the republican president 3 times since then. In the 50s and 70s.
We also have abortion rights codified in our state legislature. The running mate of Kamala Harris, Tim Walz is our governor.
Source
Nice I hope we can secede to Canada together because this is getting bad.
Alaska should be Canada’s but only if we eject the Alaskan maga faction.
Doomberg says he thinks he wants Carney to win, since the only way a pipeline is getting built to Europe is if a left leaning government does it.
Lol
Well I mean he’s the lefts guy. Not that he’s actually progressive, he definitely didn’t give a shot about the housing bubble when he was the governor of the BoC.
He’s the liberal’s guy, the left don’t really have a guy in this election. Even the NDP have gone hard to centre since the Jack Layton days
Trump is gonna be so butthurt that after he told Canadians to elect PeePee who was gonna make Canada the 51st state, Canadians took away his seat. Nope nope nope.
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