Record 193 LGBTQ athletes at Paris Summer Olympics (www.outsports.com)
from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 03:12
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saltesc@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 10:30 next collapse

lol, okay.

Personal sexual preferences, probably the weirdest stat I’ll see of the Olympics. Unless they’re tracking circumcisions in the volunteer staff or something and really feel like that’s an Olympic stat for the public as well.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 11:18 next collapse

Fun fact: representation of vilified, persecuted and oppressed groups is about more than just the thing itself. It’s about equality and defeating bigotry.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 11:55 collapse

It’s not, though.

It’s a third party tracking ousted athletes, rather than something that’d be much more accurate.

There’s obviously more, but there’s be a very large, “I don’t see how that’s any of your fucking business” cohort. And I’m quite certain many of the athletes on that published list don’t feel comfortable about this at all because when they mentioned they weren’t straight, they weren’t expecting to be catalogued, published, and distributed out all the time so steangers can check out what their fuck is as they compete.

You’re queerwashing and you’re using the same old bullshit terms to try make it look like this is a normal thing to happen for people. This isn’t how your modern equality is achieved in the modern era. Ain’t no other group getting this same shit happening to them.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 12:05 next collapse

It’s a third party tracking ousted athletes, rather than something that’d be much more accurate.

If you’d have bothered to actually read the article, you’d know that they ask every athlete before they include them on the list, making it first party information.

I’m quite certain many of the athletes on that published list don’t feel comfortable about this at all

Again, all of them are out and have specifically agreed to be included. You’re making shit up on their behalf. That’s a very weird thing to do and you should stop.

when they mentioned they weren’t straight, they weren’t expecting to be catalogued, published, and distributed out all the time so steangers can check out what their fuck is as they compete

Sounds like you’re either projecting your own privacy vs advocacy preferences onto them or uncomfortable with their openness. Either way, that’s a YOU problem.

You’re queerwashing and you’re using the same old bullshit terms to try make it look like this is a normal thing to happen for people.

Again, stop being weird and trying to make your issues theirs.

Also, you should look up what queerwashing ACTUALLY means, because celebrating more voluntary openness as a result of less oppression and repression ain’t it.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:16 collapse

If you’d have bothered to actually read the article, you’d know that they ask every athlete before they include them on the list, making it first party information.

I did read the article, did you? Because that’s not what it said. You could argue it implies it at one point, but it implies opposing things more. The constant call out for people to let them know of people not on the list is not exactly ethically responsible either.

But you’ve side-tracked from the actual point here—one I won’t repeat, but I think makes your use of “equality” so rich, amongst the other regurgitation of words you’ve learned, but out of context. Also, the queerwashing was stated at you, not the article, though something tells me you won’t grasp onto why at all, I wouldn’t expect it.

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 13:30 collapse

the same old bullshit terms to try make it look like this is a normal thing to happen for people

Being queer is normal. Being homophobic is not.

Being queer in the face of homophobia is worth commending, especially when homophobes like you demand that we shut up about it.

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 13:26 next collapse

Everyone: “LGBT acceptance is at an all-time-high in the Olympics. 🎆”

You: “Big deal, I don’t give a shit about queer people. 💩”

(In case you were confused about why people are downvoting you)

saltesc@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:40 collapse

You: “Some times people say things but I think it’d be better for me if they said completely different things, so I make up hypothetical conversations and iterate them to others to make it look like that’s what happened.”

A psychologist: “So you blatantly gaslight people straight from the textbook.”

(In case you were confused about why relationships be like they do)

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 03:48 collapse

I know it’s been 13 hours, but I just wanted to let you know that this response was weak and bad, and you should feel bad.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 07:54 collapse

You literally put false words in my mouth to express a view I actually despise, while using a fallacious appeal to the masses, then telling me I should feel bad for the thing you made up.

That’s Trump level.

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 09:47 collapse

“I’m a big sour baby and I need to get the last word in” -saltesc

sandbox@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 07:09 next collapse

This kind of thing is really helpful for people who are struggling with their sexuality. We still don’t live in a world where LGBTQ+ people and cishet people are treated the same.

Imagine you’re a gay kid, and you live in the southern US or something, and you read this headline. Wouldn’t that make you feel just a little bit less alone? Wouldn’t that give you a little bit of hope that one day you could be happy?

That’s why representation is important.

I truly hope that one day I can wholeheartedly and in good faith make the kind of comment you made. Who the fuck cares, why does this matter? Because in a world with equality, you’d be right. But that’s not our world, not yet.

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kerrypacker@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 12:16 collapse

There’s more than that in the Australian Women’s Football team (and they fucking rule).