China accuses US of new pressure campaign on global trade: Beijing warns of retaliation after reports that Washington is urging allies to cut trade with China. (www.rfa.org)
from Mee@reddthat.com to world@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 13:23
https://reddthat.com/post/39585996

Beijing accused the United States of “pressuring other countries” to curb trade, following media reports that the Trump administration will use tariff relief as leverage to push nations to scale back their economic ties with China.

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floofloof@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 13:58 next collapse

If China can show itself to be a more reliable trade partner than the USA, it should be able to make some effective counter-offers to those countries.

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 14:56 next collapse

Can they? I’m not convinced. They flaunt the rules based international order are engaged in the most cynical version of realpolitik imaginable. China gets pissy if you exercise your own law in your own country while simultaneously demanding you respect their sovereignty and foreign policy goals and operating illegal underground “police stations” in other countries. Seriously, fuck China.

The US lost their reliable partner status because they are trying to compete with China by becoming like China.

We can trade, but no deep partnerships can occur with either of them, and we can’t free trade or we’ll get swallowed by the realpolitiks of it all. E.g. dumping to destroy strategic domestic industries etc.

DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 17:25 next collapse

It’s an aggregate - the devaluation of the US as a trade partner increases China’s, even if they do nothing other than maintain the status quo (they won’t).

A valuation internationally of “the least worst option,” viewed from the perspective of decade long trade relations.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 22:16 collapse

China had privileges for many years because it’s a developing country. I think they technically still are, because of poverty in many provinces. But China needs to acknowledge they have come so far now, that we can’t grant them those privileges anymore.

USA could have made that case together with trade partners. But instead USA chose to screw over everybody.

I agree we can’t suddenly replace USA with China, that wouldn’t make any sense.
But if we can repair some of the damage Trump is doing with better agreements with China, I think everybody is ready to do that as things are now.

comador@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:41 collapse

Doubt

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 14:48 next collapse

US: Stabs friends in the eye.

Also US: Pwease hewlp fwiend.

Fuck off US.

Kaput@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 14:49 next collapse

What allies?

DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 17:22 collapse

Yeah, every activity they’ve taken so far has driven the ship towards American isolation and incentivized Chinese trade (and trade between everyone else) with every other nation.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 14:49 next collapse

What allies lmao?

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 22:25 collapse

IDK 51st State of Canada maybe?

turnip@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:46 next collapse

Modern war will soon look like an autonomous drone light show moving towards your military base, and the winner will be whoever can starve their enemy of advanced components and rare earth elements, hence China ceasing their exports of rare earths which make up 80% of the US supply.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 21 Apr 22:33 collapse

The US has allies?