Gaza-bound humanitarian aid ship rescued by Malta after drone attack (www.aa.com.tr)
from pete_link@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 02 May 2025 14:47
https://lemmy.ml/post/29490066

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/29490014

Ahmet Gencturk | 02.05.2025 - Update : 02.05.2025

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Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 02 May 2025 17:26 next collapse

The Zionist demons are starving 2 million people. 60 days and not a grain of rice has entered Gaza.

Now they are attacking aid ships in international waters, which is yet another war crime to add to the pile.

Fuck israel. It has no right to exist

venusaur@lemmy.world on 02 May 2025 17:58 next collapse

Please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe war crimes are only enforced by ICC members and often only punish smaller countries. Unfortunately, USA and Israel are not members and none of the members are seemingly going to enforce it, so the law effectively doesn’t apply. Of course what they’re doing should be illegal but what is illegal if nobody does anything about it?

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 02 May 2025 19:50 collapse

Palestine is an ICC member state since 2014 however. theguardian.com/…/icc-membership-double-edged-swo…

But yeah there is no point in any ICC rulings, if the member states just ignore the court.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 03 May 2025 06:39 collapse

I wonder if officially convicting Netanyahu would be dangerous because then members have to enforce it and if they don’t it’ll diminish the legitimacy of the law.

Would be nice for the world to know that a major chunk of the world officially believes what he is doing is illegal.

EDIT: there is an arrest warrant

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 May 2025 06:48 collapse

Wdym? There is an official arrest warrant for him already. So far ICC member countries have just been silent to defiant when it comes to actually arresting him.

en.wikipedia.org/…/International_Criminal_Court_a…

Hungary sadly has alrady been the first country to actually violate their obligations to the ICC. I assume others will follow like Germany.

During Netanyahu’s visit, Orbán announced that Hungary would withdraw from the ICC. Per the Rome Statute, Hungary would need to formally notify the UN Secretary General. The withdrawal would become effective withdraw a year later. Hungary’s obligation to arrest Netanyahu was unaffected by Orbán’s announcement.[51]

On 3 April, the ICJP submitted a formal complaint to the Hungarian Minister of Justice stating that the Hungarian authorities were obliged to arrest Netanyahu in line with Hungarian obligations as a state party to the Rome Statute, under Article 86 of the Statute requiring it to cooperate with the ICC.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 03 May 2025 08:37 next collapse

Ah. So people just don’t care because it’s not enforced. Granted I don’t follow news much lately but I hadn’t heard about it.

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 May 2025 08:48 next collapse

The best we can hope for is a country saying that they wont arrest him, to bait him into coming, but then actually arrest him when he does.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 03 May 2025 17:22 collapse

Yeah would be great if he was on vacation or something and they snatched him up. It is God’s will.

Saleh@feddit.org on 03 May 2025 11:33 collapse

It is more that the countries that used to build what could have become a rules based international order are now tearing it down because they find genocide and horrendous crimes against humanity more attractive.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 03 May 2025 17:22 collapse

Which countries are you referring to?

Saleh@feddit.org on 03 May 2025 20:06 collapse

Hungary openly defying the ICC arrest warrant for Netanyahu. Germany toeing around it and the new chancellor already announcing he wants to defy it. France saying they would arrest him, but allow him to use their airspace. The US praising the ICC when it comes to arrest warrants against Putin, and then sanctioning people working there when it comes to Israel.

Pracitically all EU countries and the US acting contrary to the ICJ “advisory opinion” that the illegal occupation of the Westbank, East Jerusalem and Gaza must not be aided in any way, be it diplomatically, militarily, financially or economically.

venusaur@lemmy.world on 04 May 2025 19:43 collapse

But is that favoring genocide or just avoiding conflict?

barsoap@lemm.ee on 03 May 2025 18:14 collapse

I very much doubt Germany could grant Netanyahu immunity from arrest without withdrawing from the ICC, which is not going to happen. Just because Merz says he’d like to do something doesn’t mean it’s going to happen, he’s running his mouth all the time.

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 May 2025 18:23 collapse

he’s running his mouth all the time.

While that is true, i am not convinced of our legal system anymore after having a criminal as chancellor for 4 years.

blakenong@lemmings.world on 06 May 2025 06:27 collapse

China has done absolutely nothing. That must make you mad.

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 06 May 2025 08:55 collapse

I think China is playing the long game at building up its economic and military power while the US destroys itself.

It’s history doesn’t suggest a desire to meddle or colonize like the European powers.

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 04 May 2025 17:02 collapse

Reported as “Turkish State Media”, which it is, but on investigation, despite being Right biased, I’m not seeing a bunch of factual issues or propaganda like we do with, say, Iranian state media.

Allowing it for now, if it becomes a problem, we may re-visit the issue.

pete_link@lemmy.ml on 05 May 2025 23:48 collapse

OK, thanks for the heads-up.